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[BigLew]

Anyone tried buying these complete with the speaker boxes and putting them on the RG?

Mike

[Fireguy]

I don't believe HD has put a kit together that would allow you to put SESG lowers on your 2009 SERG.(although that would be cool). I did do it to mine and put hog tune speaker kit in them. You would also need the 2010 fairing brackets to raise the fairing.   http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=40441.240   

[BigLew]

I don't believe HD has put a kit together that would allow you to put SESG lowers on your 2009 SERG.(although that would be cool). I did do it to mine and put hog tune speaker kit in them. You would also need the 2010 fairing brackets to raise the fairing.   http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=40441.240   

My guys at the HD store tell me you can buy them complete not sure about the speakers and most likely would not care for them anyway. Just wondered if anyone had already done it>

Mike

[Harleypingman]

If HD sells the SESG2 fairing lowers and speaker boxes as a complete assembly your parts guys can look them up on their computer in the painted parts catalog which HD provides for replacing OEM painted parts.  The SESG2 parts catalog provides part nos. for painted speaker boxes and the component painted parts of the fairing lowers (right and left "fairing lower" and "cap"; without hardware or vents) for that model.  Those are at page 98 of that book.
I don't know if these painted parts are VIN restricted, i.e. only sold to replace damaged parts with a VIN for SESG2 supplied, and a "return damaged parts" requirment as there is for some CVO parts.

If your questions is can SESG2 speaker boxes be installed in non-SESG2 vented lowers, the answer is "yes."  hd-dude and I have done this:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=54779.0

If you need to paint the fairng lowers and speaker boxes to match your bike, the lowers (complete with hardware) are available unpainted for about $200 less than non-CVO painted lowers at a list price of $449.95, p/n 58854-05; and, the p/n's for unpainted speaker boxes are listed in the above link.

Carl

[Dan_Lockwood]

Isn't there an issue with the '09 SERG's engine guard lower fairing support bracket hitting the "new" style lowers?  Even if the new lowers can be modified or the brackets can be replaced like some have done here, if it's not a bolt on there will be no painted to match from HD for our three colors.

Maybe this is not the case, but I think painted to match for our three colors is not going to happen.  I could the '11s available painted to match for the '10s in the SESG models, but that would be only a guess on my part.  If they do become available as a kit, I'm sure painting will not be an issue.

Although for the '09 SERG O/B like mine, Vivid Black is the color that would have been used on lowers if they had been installed at the factory.  I think that Vivid Black for the '11 lowers with speaker modules would be a factory available color because of the wide fit range throughout the HD line of touring Vivid Black models.

I haven't done the search, but wasn't the only difference in the pre-'10 lower fairing was the longer top cross piece of plastic that covered the engine guard and went inward toward the frame.  Wasn't it this inward protrusion that guys changed out the fairing bracket to clear?  It seems to me I saw someone post a picture of them side by side and that they said all one would have to do is cut off about 1.5" of the inward protrusion to make them fit a standard '09 SERG.

I am now very curious about this and have been thinking about getting some lowers for my SERG O/B.  Having speakers in them would just be a bonus to my system.

Is there any new information on this available?

Thanks.

[SID8D2]

Isn't there an issue with the '09 SERG's engine guard lower fairing support bracket hitting the "new" style lowers?  Even if the new lowers can be modified or the brackets can be replaced like some have done here, if it's not a bolt on there will be no painted to match from HD for our three colors.

Maybe this is not the case, but I think painted to match for our three colors is not going to happen.  I could the '11s available painted to match for the '10s in the SESG models, but that would be only a guess on my part.  If they do become available as a kit, I'm sure painting will not be an issue.

Although for the '09 SERG O/B like mine, Vivid Black is the color that would have been used on lowers if they had been installed at the factory.  I think that Vivid Black for the '11 lowers with speaker modules would be a factory available color because of the wide fit range throughout the HD line of touring Vivid Black models.

I haven't done the search, but wasn't the only difference in the pre-'10 lower fairing was the longer top cross piece of plastic that covered the engine guard and went inward toward the frame.  Wasn't it this inward protrusion that guys changed out the fairing bracket to clear?  It seems to me I saw someone post a picture of them side by side and that they said all one would have to do is cut off about 1.5" of the inward protrusion to make them fit a standard '09 SERG.

I am now very curious about this and have been thinking about getting some lowers for my SERG O/B.  Having speakers in them would just be a bonus to my system.

Is there any new information on this available?

Thanks.

I think you must raise the rear of the sharknose with the left, right & front 2010 brackets. As for the Ultra cap clearance I think the brother who had an interference fit and was told to cut his cap 1 1/2" shorter was using the older style cap that extended futher down the crash bar toward the motor. I just sold my RG lowers and have begun the process of upgrading to the new vented Ultra style lowers (black) with SESG speaker pods ect ect ect. HW Amp upgraded to 4 channels (waiting for the new HW 6 1/2" speakers). When I purchased the SG Speaker pods I was told they only come in "painted to match" SG colors or primed. So I purchased primed and plan on painting them to match the vivid black lowers.

 While the fairing is apart I also plan on replacing my handle bars with a set of Paul Yaffe Monkey Bars (not sure what height yet). Better light bulbs and Hand warmers (heat demons). For now just collecting parts, Once I have everything I will begin the work.

[hd-dude]

In order to use the vented lowers on an 09 and lower road glide you need to get the following parts:
58530-10 Fairing mounting bracket
58454-10 LH lower fairing mount
58460-10 RH lower fairing mount
58487-04 Fairing mount cap (2)
2647B Fairing mount screws (4)

We have done these on Roadglides back to 03 without issue.

[BigLew]

In order to use the vented lowers on an 09 and lower road glide you need to get the following parts:
58530-10 Fairing mounting bracket
58454-10 LH lower fairing mount
58460-10 RH lower fairing mount
58487-04 Fairing mount cap (2)
2647B Fairing mount screws (4)

We have done these on Roadglides back to 03 without issue.

Jim you da Man!

Mike

[Dan_Lockwood]

In order to use the vented lowers on an 09 and lower road glide you need to get the following parts:
58530-10 Fairing mounting bracket
58454-10 LH lower fairing mount
58460-10 RH lower fairing mount
58487-04 Fairing mount cap (2)
2647B Fairing mount screws (4)

We have done these on Roadglides back to 03 without issue.

Jim, thanks a bunch for the information.

Do the LH/RH lower mounts along with the Fairing mount, raise the entire fairing assembly as a whole?  Does this give the fairing also a bit of a downward tip in front?

Thanks again for the information.

[hd-dude]

Jim, thanks a bunch for the information.

Do the LH/RH lower mounts along with the Fairing mount, raise the entire fairing assembly as a whole?  Does this give the fairing also a bit of a downward tip in front?

Thanks again for the information.

The angle does not appear to be different, I have not measured it to be sure but it does raise the fairing assemble up

[BigLew]

The angle does not appear to be different, I have not measured it to be sure but it does raise the fairing assemble up

So Jim my question is would I come out about the same money wise if I bought the 2011 SESG lowers with the vents and speaker boxes and covers and buy the brackets I need. Just dont get the speakers. not decided if I'll get in black or primer?

Mike

[Harleypingman]

Jim, thanks a bunch for the information.

Do the LH/RH lower mounts along with the Fairing mount, raise the entire fairing assembly as a whole?  Does this give the fairing also a bit of a downward tip in front?

Thanks again for the information.

Use this link and scroll down to the "Road Glide Fairing Mount Changes" at page 50.  It explains what was done for 2010 RG fairing mount.

http://onlyharley.net/2010_model.pdf


Carl

[SID8D2]

So Jim my question is would I come out about the same money wise if I bought the 2011 SESG lowers with the vents and speaker boxes and covers and buy the brackets I need. Just dont get the speakers. not decided if I'll get in black or primer?

Mike

Big Lew;
  I did the RG lowers last year with custom paint to match my O/B SERG3 and glove boxes and had the Black vents cut into them (check out the "Selling" Topic) Proly had $1200 into them figuring shipping cost ect. The custom paint was $540 so maybe $400 could have been saved there had I gone with black or all $540 had I been able to find a black pair on E-Bay (hard to find a perfect set and buy cheap mite as well by new at HD). They looked cool and were custom but needed more volume on the tunes. Could have done RG speaker boxes (again custom and more $$$). I was able to sell them and take a loss but chalk it up to a learning experance and the expence of my hobby. This year doing the 2010 conversion with Black Ultra Style Vented Lowers. Bought the lowers (along with other goodies) from HD during a 20% sale. Picked them up yesterday along with the SESG2 Lower Fairing Speaker Boxes and every thing else I need to add the I-Pod conversion just like it is on the SG. Gonna have my painter paint the speaker boxes black to match and put it all together. One good note is, when buying the lower kit from HD and upgrading to the SESG speaker boxes I will have the Ultra Style Glove boxes to sell on E-Bay. $1200 vs say maybe $700 (thats with the 20% discount and not counting any I-Pod items. Add to that another $70 for the HD Speaker Grills and maybe $100 for paintingthe speaker pods I'll be at say $900. I'd have to say it's cheaper going with all HD stuff the SESG way.

 Now comes the stereo upgrades to 4 channels and the I-pod upgrades ect ect ect....God I Love this Hobby, If the Black seems to plain....It's back to the painter for some custom work with the air brush.

   Hi; my name is Sid and I'm a CVO Biker 

[Dan_Lockwood]

Another quick question to all you guys.

"IF" I were to do away with the rear lower brackets and do my own similar to the ones that have been shown here on the site that can go back/up and inward to the main frame, would the new 2010 lowers fit without the slight lift the new front and rear lower brackets provide?

[SID8D2]

I'm not sure but I thought that the LH/RH rear fairing mounts lifted the rear .800" and the front center bracket lowered the front slightly, thus tilting the whole Sharknose down in front and up in the back. Not sure you can only lift the rear enough to clear the interference fit that is present with the Ultra Style Lowers. If you look at a 09RG and a 2010 RG side by side you can barely tell any difference. But if you use you imagination you can maybe see it. I'm sure the headlights will need to be adjusted upward.