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Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« on: December 08, 2010, 05:01:17 PM »

Wondering why HD will not reply to my letter on my 2008 FDXSE2 (head/cylinder issues at 7K miles - no surprise there from reviewing this site).  Customer service said they can talk to me, but will not respond in writing.  Sad support policy.  Surely, they have nothing to hide.  No way to treat customers who buy their high-end bikes.
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #1 on: December 08, 2010, 05:46:59 PM »

you may keep in mind the MoCo has no business with you except through your dealer who is an independent licensee.

Or did you open a formal claim against the MoCo herself?

Otherwise there will be formal paperwork only between you and your dealer.

Regular business procedures, nothing to complain about.
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #2 on: December 08, 2010, 06:00:11 PM »

Kraut, Fair point.  In this case, the dealer was great.  However, my claim was made directly with corporate HD. 
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #3 on: December 08, 2010, 07:05:49 PM »

if that's the case and your problem is not resolved pass it to your attorneys. Customer service will not grasp the difference as their not trained for this  ::)
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #4 on: December 08, 2010, 07:16:52 PM »

REASON: Deniablility....as in no paper trial to support any legal action.  :nervous:
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #5 on: December 08, 2010, 07:19:31 PM »

REASON: Deniablility....as in no paper trial to support any legal action.  :nervous:
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #6 on: December 08, 2010, 07:20:48 PM »


This is one of my many pet peeves with H-D and their entire attitude toward customers.  They don't publish things like email addresses for customer contacts, and prefer to keep all contact on a verbal, "your word against mine" basis.  This is the only company I've had dealings with in the past twenty plus years that won't respond to written correspondence, and in my humble opinion it has a lot to do with the type of bull crap customer disservice they offer.  They obviously don't want to many written responses floating around when they have a history of telling bald faced lies or giving different answers to different customers with the same issue.  Just one more of the many things to think about when choosing a motorcycle company for your next purchase.

BTW, invest in a recorder for your phone and save their BS responses that way.  Then when they don't respond appropriately, take the recordings to your attorney.


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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #7 on: December 08, 2010, 07:27:21 PM »

I wrote a letter to corporate, and the ONLY response was  in an e-mail that stated   ---  your claim has been denied. They did not even address any of the issues in my letter. WHAT A GREAT COMPANY!!!!!
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #8 on: December 08, 2010, 11:42:35 PM »


BTW, invest in a recorder for your phone and save their BS responses that way.  Then when they don't respond appropriately, take the recordings to your attorney.


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Against the law to record a phone conversation unless you advice the other party before the conversation you are doing so. And then watch them politely hang up on you quicker then snot when you tell the call is being recorded..
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2010, 12:05:15 AM »

Against the law to record a phone conversation unless you advice the other party before the conversation you are doing so. And then watch them politely hang up on you quicker then snot when you tell the call is being recorded..

Not so..In some sates not required or one party consent only...which would be you
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2010, 06:50:29 AM »

Against the law to record a phone conversation unless you advice the other party before the conversation you are doing so. And then watch them politely hang up on you quicker then snot when you tell the call is being recorded..

Not so in NC

As song as one of the two parties knows the conversation is being recorded...it is legal and binding...........happened to one of our local building inspectors
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2010, 07:05:08 AM »

Against the law to record a phone conversation unless you advice the other party before the conversation you are doing so. And then watch them politely hang up on you quicker then snot when you tell the call is being recorded..
I've been told this is not true in all states. Example: In Va as long as one party (you) knows it is being recorded then it is legal however the person your speaking to has to also be in Va.

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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2010, 09:02:12 AM »

Not so..In some sates not required or one party consent only...which would be you

Here is a link to federal law.... Consent to one party means " Either you are advising you are recording, or other party is advising and one party agrees." you no longer have to have the 30 second beep, you just have to advise.
In other word, watch the other party hang up quicker then snot once you advise you are recording!!!  :2vrolijk_21:
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-america.htm
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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2010, 09:28:41 AM »

Here is a link to federal law.... Consent to one party means " Either you are advising you are recording, or other party is advising and one party agrees." you no longer have to have the 30 second beep, you just have to advise.
In other word, watch the other party hang up quicker then snot once you advise you are recording!!!  :2vrolijk_21:
http://www.callcorder.com/phone-recording-law-america.htm

Va must interpret it differently. :nixweiss:

Virginia Code § 19.2-62

2. It shall not be a criminal offense under this chapter for a person to intercept a wire, electronic or oral communication, where such person is a party to the communication or one of the parties to the communication has given prior consent to such interception.

If I'm making the call then I would be a "party" of that call and could record it. I didn't read all of the code but I do know that investigators have taped phone calls before w/o any legal ramifications.

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Re: Why won't Harley Davidson reply in writing to customer issues?
« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2010, 09:33:26 AM »

Wondering why HD will not reply to my letter on my 2008 FDXSE2 (head/cylinder issues at 7K miles - no surprise there from reviewing this site).  Customer service said they can talk to me, but will not respond in writing.  Sad support policy.  Surely, they have nothing to hide.  No way to treat customers who buy their high-end bikes.

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