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[Unbalanced]

179 last one i saw last night.

[2smoke]

What do ya know....no surprisses 

Did you think there would be?

[grc]

found it... 103 and110 only from that list it looks like the "power pak" is standard

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There are two different files that pertain to the Big Twins, the first one is just the Touring models, the second one includes the Softails and Dyna's.  On that second one, the Dyna's are shown as still having the TC96 (1584 cc).  So it appears that the Softy's and Touring models will have the 103 standard.  I'm surprised, but then I haven't seen the new pricing.  Hard to believe that Harley would give up the fat option profits on the Power Pak package to make it standard, unless of course they bumped the bike prices enough to cover it.


Jerry

[ice6900]

The Cvo Convertable has another run in 2012

[timo482]

i think a part of the equation is the ongoing heat from the epa. there is less and less marketing of performance engine bits to the new bike buyer. its less risk & more profit for them to have models with bigger engines and sell a whole bike than to sell parts to bump a existing bike.

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[cvobiker]

Did you think there would be?

Yea, i was for sure they would bring out a 145 inch monster  , but shucks looks like this year is out 

[BryantH]

An unprecedented 7 years the CVO line has used the 110 engine. No other CVO engine has remained in the CVO line this long in the history of the CVO motorcycles.

Is the 110 engine that durable, reliable, scalable, and bullet proof that Harley brass feel there's no need to introduce another motor in their premium Motorcycle brand?

Will the 110 engine in the 2007 - 2012 (and counting) Harley CVO premium motorcycles become the motorcycle every other CVO will be judged against? Or, is Harley brass dedicated to keep using the same 110 engine and make annual refinements to it until it becomes as durable, reliable, scalable, and bullet proof of a platform that was originally intended?

Will the 2013 110 engine have welded cranks, trued and timken bearing?

One would need a crystal ball in the board room at Harley Davidson to determine if any major changes will happen with the 110 engine in the near future

[JCZ]

Don't count it out yet, I'm sure Harley has more to post on ARB

HD doesn't post on CARB (California Air Resources Board) web site.  All manufacturers have a deadline to meet with CARB.  I'm not sure what that deadline is but it has to be past.....the MoCo is already producing 2012 models and they're not going to start producing until they meet CARB requirements.  At least not for models that will be sold in Calif.

[JCZ]

An unprecedented 7 years the CVO line has used the 110 engine. No other CVO engine has remained in the CVO line this long in the history of the CVO motorcycles.

Is the 110 engine that durable, reliable, scalable, and bullet proof that Harley brass feel there's no need to introduce another motor in their premium Motorcycle brand?

Will the 110 engine in the 2007 - 2012 (and counting) Harley CVO premium motorcycles become the motorcycle every other CVO will be judged against? Or, is Harley brass dedicated to keep using the same 110 engine and make annual refinements to it until it becomes as durable, reliable, scalable, and bullet proof of a platform that was originally intended?

Will the 2013 110 engine have welded cranks, trued and timken bearing?
One would need a crystal ball in the board room at Harley Davidson to determine if any major changes will happen with the 110 engine in the near future

Or the 2012 MY?    I don't believe that would be reflected in the CARB report.

[ice6900]

The new "Switchback Dyna" probably wont produce any surprises either,

It will be a Convertable with a Fat Bob rear fender, no surprise there, another excercise of how to use the P&A catalogue!

[cvobiker]

HD doesn't post on CARB (California Air Resources Board) web site.  All manufacturers have a deadline to meet with CARB.  I'm not sure what that deadline is but it has to be past.....the MoCo is already producing 2012 models and they're not going to start producing until they meet CARB requirements.  At least not for models that will be sold in Calif.

I dont know JCZ ? i think it was last year or maybe year before   (to lazy to check) there were a couple added after the initial posting, and if i remember correctly (give me credit here, im a senior citizen ) one or two were added mid year.    

[Midnight Rider]

An unprecedented 7 years the CVO line has used the 110 engine. No other CVO engine has remained in the CVO line this long in the history of the CVO motorcycles.

Is the 110 engine that durable, reliable, scalable, and bullet proof that Harley brass feel there's no need to introduce another motor in their premium Motorcycle brand?

Will the 110 engine in the 2007 - 2012 (and counting) Harley CVO premium motorcycles become the motorcycle every other CVO will be judged against? Or, is Harley brass dedicated to keep using the same 110 engine and make annual refinements to it until it becomes as durable, reliable, scalable, and bullet proof of a platform that was originally intended?

Will the 2013 110 engine have welded cranks, trued and timken bearing?
One would need a crystal ball in the board room at Harley Davidson to determine if any major changes will happen with the 110 engine in the near future

From the factory?  When you spot pigs flying over Willie G's house, let me know.   

[spydglide]

From the factory?  When you spot pigs flying over Willie G's house, let me know.   

With all the tornados passing thru... .....could happen.  har.  spyder

[Midnight Rider]

With all the tornados passing thru... .....could happen.  har.  spyder

 ...This is true, Grasshopper.

[JCZ]

I dont know JCZ ? i think it was last year or maybe year before   (to lazy to check) there were a couple added after the initial posting, and if i remember correctly (give me credit here, im a senior citizen ) one or two were added mid year.    

Oh yes, I believe you're correct.  I'm just saying that for those released next month, CARB already has their test results and has approved them for sale for next month.  They can get something approved by CARB in say Sept. for a Dec. release.  CARB will have their information and test results and approved by CARB before the MoCo will start producing them.