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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2006, 08:47:02 AM »

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I was at the dealer today trying to get the v.8.9 radio software download since I was having trouble on my own. I found out the dealer only had v.7.8 and will be ordering v.8.9 and downloading it for me later.
I hope it fixes my CB radio issue as well. My problem is I can hear others but I am not transmitting at all. I also have the shorty antennas from Freedom Cycle and don't have access to an SWR meter to check the output. Others I ride with do not have any problems in transmitting or recieving and they never used a meter to tune the antennas.They do have older bikes though.
The dealer was not familiar with v.8.9 and had not heard that it was a fix for the CB. He said he has fixed one other 2006 CB and had to swap out a module in the faring to get it to work. He stated it was a situation that the 2006 CB was so strong it would overpower older radios.
I hope ultrafxr is right and all I need is the v.8.9 download to fix the CB. ;D

You are able to get the v.8.9.0 from the MoCo website......and make the downloading yourself.. [smiley=banana.gif]
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2006, 03:39:20 PM »

No difference to my CB problem with the new firmware....  :(

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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #17 on: July 11, 2006, 02:00:44 PM »

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I have heard of that problem and that there is a "Module" that they can install on your CB so you can transmit OK. I plan to test mine out soon myself so I don't know yet if I need to take mine in too. As I understand it may only be on the early 2006 model year CBs but I have not seen anything offical.

I'd like to keep this topic alive until there is an update from the moco.  I too have received complaints about my CB transmissions and I'd like to think that if moco is aware of the issue a fix would be coming.  My dealer hasn't heard anything about the problem or fix (except from me), so my hope is with the informed consumers who make up this forum.  Anyone know what's going on?
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #18 on: July 11, 2006, 02:15:10 PM »

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I'd like to keep this topic alive until there is an update from the moco.  I too have received complaints about my CB transmissions and I'd like to think that if moco is aware of the issue a fix would be coming.  My dealer hasn't heard anything about the problem or fix (except from me), so my hope is with the informed consumers who make up this forum.  Anyone know what's going on?

Well, sort of*.  I've spoken with Harman/Becker, and the nice guy there was v. helpful. He says they don't make the CBs, they are made by Midland (who SHOULD know what they are doing it seems to me, given how long they've been making CBs!).  They are aware there is a problem, and are working on two possible fixes. One would involve swapping the radio - I suspect just the CB module - and the other would be new firmware. A fix is at least 6 or 8 weeks away.  Interestingly, they say that the incompatibility lies with the old Radiosound CBs, not with the new one - whether that's accurate or not I can't say.  (Anyone tried talking 06 HD to a conventional, non HD CB?  Does it work?)

Harley of course, will respond with "problem? what problem?"  >:(

*That's the situation as I understand it with respect to the UK and/or European version; although it may well be the same problem globally, I can't say for sure, nor can I vouch for the accuracy of course.


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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #19 on: July 11, 2006, 02:33:04 PM »

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Well, sort of*.  I've spoken with Harman/Becker, and the nice guy there was v. helpful. He says they don't make the CBs, they are made by Midland (who SHOULD know what they are doing it seems to me, given how long they've been making CBs!).  They are aware there is a problem, and are working on two possible fixes. One would involve swapping the radio - I suspect just the CB module - and the other would be new firmware. A fix is at least 6 or 8 weeks away.  Interestingly, they say that the incompatibility lies with the old Radiosound CBs, not with the new one - whether that's accurate or not I can't say.  (Anyone tried talking 06 HD to a conventional, non HD CB?  Does it work?)

Harley of course, will respond with "problem? what problem?"  >:(

*That's the situation as I understand it with respect to the UK and/or European version; although it may well be the same problem globally, I can't say for sure, nor can I vouch for the accuracy of course.


Jim


Hey Jim.  Thanks for replying.  Actually, the complaints were from an '05 Goldwing rider.  I haven't had the chance to talk to another rider of any year or make.  The beef was that when we were within fifty feet, and at a slower speed he could understand me, but at a thousand feet or more apart and at fifty mph or more,  I was distorted to the point of being barely (or not) understood.   I don't think the problem is with his unit, based on several observations and experiments we did.  It's just another little niggling thing that would be nice not to have to deal with.
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #20 on: July 11, 2006, 02:39:41 PM »

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Hey Jim.  Thanks for replying.  Actually, the complaints were from an '05 Goldwing rider.  I haven't had the chance to talk to another rider of any year or make.  The beef was that when we were within fifty feet, and at a slower speed he could understand me, but at a thousand feet or more apart and at fifty mph or more,  I was distorted to the point of being barely (or not) understood.   I don't think the problem is with his unit, based on several observations and experiments we did.  It's just another little niggling thing that would be nice not to have to deal with.

It's a major annoyance to me, not a little niggling thing.  ;)  But no, the problem is definitely going to be with your CB, not his.  Interesting that his bike is not an HD!  As a matter of interest, that's pretty much the same situation as with the UK (FM) CBs; they can all hear me, but loud and distorted.  On the other hand I can't hear most of the others on pre-06 bikes at all, and those I CAN hear are all very quiet, and all distorted - except for just one bike, an 05 Ultra, who is clear as a bell to me (and to the others!) but very quiet..... Bizarre!

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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #21 on: July 11, 2006, 02:46:38 PM »

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It's a major annoyance to me, not a little niggling thing.  ;)  But no, the problem is definitely going to be with your CB, not his.  [highlight]Interesting that his bike is not an HD!  [/highlight]As a matter of interest, that's pretty much the same situation as with the UK (FM) CBs; they can all hear me, but loud and distorted.  On the other hand I can't hear most of the others on pre-06 bikes at all, and those I CAN hear are all very quiet, and all distorted - except for just one bike, an 05 Ultra, who is clear as a bell to me (and to the others!) but very quiet..... Bizarre!

Jim

He actually also has an HD, but it doesn't have a radio.  Otherwise, I couldn't have him as a friend.  REALLY just kidding.
I didn't mean to belittle the problem, as it burns me too.  Fortunately, I don't use the CB very often.  I'm very interested in the fix and if you need a voice of support, let me know who to call.
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #22 on: July 11, 2006, 02:55:52 PM »

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He actually also has an HD, but it doesn't have a radio.  Otherwise, I couldn't have him as a friend.  REALLY just kidding.
I didn't mean to belittle the problem, as it burns me too.  Fortunately, I don't use the CB very often.  I'm very interested in the fix and if you need a voice of support, let me know who to call.
Mike

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I do use mine - all the time. It's essential within our little group when touring, so it really is a headache for me.  >:(

I told the nice guy at Harman/Becker that I'd be happy to test any solutions they come up with (they have weekly progress meetings to discuss it) so we'll see if they ask me to try anything (my guess is the unhelpful MoFoMoCo will say not to let it loose for testing to a mere customer, following their normal "problem? what problem" head in the sand technique though).

I'm not going to let it drop, so I'll keep y'all up to date!

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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #23 on: July 11, 2006, 04:11:07 PM »

Hi Mike103,
I got a good chance to test my CB this weekend on a run and after checking all of my connections and settings I got it to work but it transmitts like yours.
When I was in a parking lot or slow moving it was loud for others but clear,then when on the interstate they said it was still loud but lots of wind noise.I do ride with an open face helmet but have a tall windshield.
They suggested a directional wind cover to go over the foam windsock. They said they had a problem with several of their mikes on different bikes and an open helmet until they used this cover.
I have ordered two covers from Sierra Electronics and they should be in by this weekend.
Based on my measurments and talking to the service department it looks like the 1LT-WD-50 model will work on the 2006 Harley mike but they do offer returns if it doesn't fit.
Take a look at this link for info and photos.
http://www.sierra-mc.com/products.asp?cat=177
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #24 on: July 11, 2006, 04:19:35 PM »

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Hi Mike103,
I got a good chance to test my CB this weekend on a run and after checking all of my connections and settings I got it to work but it transmitts like yours.
When I was in a parking lot or slow moving it was loud for others but clear,then when on the interstate they said it was still loud but lots of wind noise.I do ride with an open face helmet but have a tall windshield.
They suggested a directional wind cover to go over the foam windsock. They said they had a problem with several of their mikes on different bikes and an open helmet until they used this cover.
I have ordered two covers from Sierra Electronics and they should be in by this weekend.
Based on my measurments and talking to the service department it looks like the 1LT-WD-50 model will work on the 2006 Harley mike but they do offer returns if it doesn't fit.
Take a look at this link for info and photos.
http://www.sierra-mc.com/products.asp?cat=177


Nice find....can't wait to hear if they work or not....might just keep these HD mic's after all....seein as how I keep forgettin to order the J&M setup....
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #25 on: July 11, 2006, 05:07:04 PM »

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Hi Mike103,
I got a good chance to test my CB this weekend on a run and after checking all of my connections and settings I got it to work but it transmitts like yours.
When I was in a parking lot or slow moving it was loud for others but clear,then when on the interstate they said it was still loud but lots of wind noise.I do ride with an open face helmet but have a tall windshield.
They suggested a directional wind cover to go over the foam windsock. They said they had a problem with several of their mikes on different bikes and an open helmet until they used this cover.
I have ordered two covers from Sierra Electronics and they should be in by this weekend.
Based on my measurments and talking to the service department it looks like the 1LT-WD-50 model will work on the 2006 Harley mike but they do offer returns if it doesn't fit.
Take a look at this link for info and photos.
http://www.sierra-mc.com/products.asp?cat=177

Hmmm... could be a great item, not just for the CB, but for the intercom too!  Let us know how good they are.

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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #26 on: July 12, 2006, 10:45:10 AM »

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Hi Mike103,
I got a good chance to test my CB this weekend on a run and after checking all of my connections and settings I got it to work but it transmitts like yours.
When I was in a parking lot or slow moving it was loud for others but clear,then when on the interstate they said it was still loud but lots of wind noise.I do ride with an open face helmet but have a tall windshield.
They suggested a directional wind cover to go over the foam windsock. They said they had a problem with several of their mikes on different bikes and an open helmet until they used this cover.
I have ordered two covers from Sierra Electronics and they should be in by this weekend.
Based on my measurments and talking to the service department it looks like the 1LT-WD-50 model will work on the 2006 Harley mike but they do offer returns if it doesn't fit.
Take a look at this link for info and photos.
http://www.sierra-mc.com/products.asp?cat=177

Hi VaEagle.  Actually, I have the Sierra setup.  I also have the taller windshield and a full face helmet.  I tried transmitting at speed with my head almost touching the instruments (one of those don't-try-this-at-home stunts) where the air is relatively still and it made no difference.  Tried chin-on-chest to seal out the wind, and no difference.   Go figure.
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #27 on: August 05, 2006, 02:45:36 PM »

Well folks I got to test my CB today on a run with a Goldwing.
So far I have the v8.9 radio download provided by VAZHOG and the rubber cover from my post above to cover the windsock.
I have discovered that the cover works to lessen the wind noise on the highway. I do ride behind a 14" clearview shield with my freedom wings open.
I have tried moving the knurled nut on my Freedom shorty antenna too. NO real changes noticed but the Goldwing.
It appears that there is some type of electrical interference when the motor is on when I transmit (It is not too bad when I recieve but is noticeable) The other bikes can here me but they do get interference noise that they say is as loud as my voice. If I sit in a parking lot and transmitt with the motor off (Ignition on) they say it transmits perfectly with no noise.
The local dealer says they would have to put a module on the radio to cure the problem but I don't know what type of module.
I will be doing some more testing with VAZHOG tomorrow to see how another Harley recieves me and how well he transmitts too. We will be in the area of I 64 and Rt.522 around noon tomorrow west of Richmond. We are meeting at the DQ if anyone wants to
stop by. ;D
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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #28 on: August 05, 2006, 06:11:59 PM »

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......I will be doing some more testing with VAZHOG tomorrow to see how another Harley recieves me and how well he transmitts too. We will be in the area of I 64 and Rt.522 around noon tomorrow west of Richmond. We are meeting at the DQ if anyone wants to
stop by. ;D
What are your plans? Are you just meeting there, going riding after/before, how long you going to be there? Give me some details I may just make the run down there to meet you guys. BTW sent you both a PM.

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Re: CB transmit problem
« Reply #29 on: August 06, 2006, 09:06:31 AM »

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Well folks I got to test my CB today on a run with a Goldwing.
So far I have the v8.9 radio download provided by VAZHOG and the rubber cover from my post above to cover the windsock.
I have discovered that the cover works to lessen the wind noise on the highway. I do ride behind a 14" clearview shield with my freedom wings open.
I have tried moving the knurled nut on my Freedom shorty antenna too. NO real changes noticed but the Goldwing.
It appears that there is some type of electrical interference when the motor is on when I transmit (It is not too bad when I recieve but is noticeable) The other bikes can here me but they do get interference noise that they say is as loud as my voice. If I sit in a parking lot and transmitt with the motor off (Ignition on) they say it transmits perfectly with no noise.
The local dealer says they would have to put a module on the radio to cure the problem but I don't know what type of module.
I will be doing some more testing with VAZHOG tomorrow to see how another Harley recieves me and how well he transmitts too. We will be in the area of I 64 and Rt.522 around noon tomorrow west of Richmond. We are meeting at the DQ if anyone wants to
stop by. ;D

Interesting.  I didn't think of this, but I also have the HD HID headlamp, which emits some sort of interference signal, and may make the problem worse.  After installing the unit, I was unable to use my non-shielded ear buds.  
Keep us posted.
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