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[Twolanerider]

Suddenly curious enough to go out and look.  The lower line appears to clear everything.  Without a mirror or odd contortions not going to photograph it though.  The upper line is shown here.

For orientation the line is in image center.  Oil cooler cover is to the right of the line.  Right downtube is to the left of the line as oriented in the photo.

The line here on the red bike is still very pliable.  Feels perfectly fine.  There is a rub, however, right at the bend.  Rub is on the side of the line at the bend against the right down tube.  Right now it's not bad on this bike.  But there is definite sign of wear.  

This weekend I'm going to cut two small strips of heater hose and epoxy them on both sides of that upper line at the places it might contact the the downtube or the cover.  Will also raise the bike up in the air and make sure the lower line is as undisturbed as I think it is right now.

[spydglide]

This could be real serious if it oiled down your rear tire at 70 or 80 MPH  [smiley=nervous.gif]

now w/ that scary understatement, [smiley=nervous.gif] I'm gonna call it a day.  har!  [smiley=xyxthumbs.gif] spyder

[Midnight Rider]

2lane...exactly how mine is looking...the potential is there for a problem...the heater hose is a good idea, as i was trying to think of some durable, but not abrasive material to put between the downtube and the hose as "insurance".

[amigo Jorge]

Jorge,
Glad to hear that it was something minor as a hose being split (if there can be a minor incident such as this [smiley=confused5.gif] I'm sure you didn't feel this way when you saw all that oil running out [smiley=nervous.gif]). Hopefully there was no damage to the motor. This will be something you want to keep an eye on, as it seems this is a design flaw as so many have had this problem. Maybe the MoCo will design some type of sheath to put on this hose to keep this from happening in the future (I would dare to say this is being caused by vibration and rubbing against something). [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Yes Fire.....the service advisor thinks that it was due a vibration....but again the bikes have to be designated to support the vibration...they are harley, aren't they?

Te serious problem would be if this happen during the night ride or riding on the loneliest road in America  HWY 50  from Utah to Nevada......you will be f%&*$#@

Ride safe my brother,

Jorge

[amigo Jorge]

Ok...I'm putting mine up on the jack and looking at this TONIGHT!!   [smiley=nervous.gif] [smiley=nervous.gif]

Is this a plainly visible hose, or does one have to take stuff off to see it?  Would a fix be to have a braided hose made for it at a local hose/hydraulic/belt shop? [smiley=nixweiss.gif] [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

TC is inside the chrome cover of the voltage regulator which is next to the oil cooler.....NOT VISIBLE until you are without oil

Jorge

[amigo Jorge]

Ya know...I had 2 Suzuki Intruder 1500's and paid about $8500 for each one new...and they came with braided lines and hydraulic type connections for the oil cooler....which was stock on the bike.  For $32K you'd think the MoCo could do things a little better.

It must be that way.....mainly the CVO which I have understood they are not built in the regular lines of production and are expensive....but you know how is MoCo.................

Jorge

[amigo Jorge]

Wonder what (if anything) changed between 05 and 06 to generate what seems to be a statistically significant amount of problem here?  Because I really don't remember the SEEGs ever reporting this issue; at least not in this proportion.

You are right Twolane...I had the SEEG '04, I rode 25K+ in one year and couple of months, I rode the 48 states in all the types of weather and NEVER had a single drop of oil leaking out...........

Jorge

[amigo Jorge]

Looked at mine when I got home...the hoses do make some sharp bends, and one of them (the top one) is laying against the frame, about where the bend is located.  I pulled my away from the frame a bit, and you can see where it has been laying, but no noticable wear....the contraction and expanding of the hose due to temp, could eventually cause a problem though. Or, maybe the hose material is just sub-par.  Looks like the hoses could be made up of something with a braided material on the outside though...like stainless.  You would definitely have to have them made to fit though, as normal hose material would kink with the bends necessary.  I'm gonna' look a little harder, when I can get it up on the jack and get underneath easier.  

For those of you who've had the problem...where did the hose break/come loose?

Terry...I will call the stealer and ask them to save for the split hose and then I will take a pic and post here......

Jorge

[amigo Jorge]

I'll have to look at mines. But maybe someone can take pictures and post of all the CVO's that have 103 motors and oil coolers. It would be interesting to see if there is a lot of difference. I'll not be able to post pics of mines until Thursday.

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Fire...in th features of the CUSE '06 there is one it says: CUSTOM OIL COOLER W/CHROME COVER.....I believe that this feature doesn't show in the SEEG '04.....if you the brochure please check it...maybe the oil cooler are different? [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Jorge

[amigo Jorge]

On an 05 SEEG the kit part number that supplies both hoses is 62899-03A.  Just check and there is no supercession on that number since my parts catalog was published.  So still a good part number (Cost is $20.00 by the way.  For that little money for a pair of molded hoses you'd never find anyplace else I'm going to get a set to throw in the bike just for "what if" purposes.).

Anyone got an 06's part catalog to compare numbers against?

I will ask the stealer for the part number when I pick the bike up  on Friday and buy one extra for "what if again".....good idea Two lane...

orge

[amigo Jorge]

My scoot's semi unclean right now from a run Sunday afternoon, or I'd shoot a photo or two...will try and do some this week.  There's got to be something different going on though.  For 20 bucks, the extra set of hoses would be worthwhile having around.  I'll damn sure be looking at my oil gauge all the time now until we can figure this one out.  Right now, I consistantly run about 32 at speed and about 10 at idle, even with 100 degree temps outside and the oil running about 225 degrees...if you can believe the gauge, that is.  I'm not running syn3 though.

Jorge said the stealer told him it split at one of the bends...wonder if it's the same one I'm seeing against the frame and it just weakened there over a few miles.  One guy had his spray with only a few miles on the bike though.... [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

[highlight]This could be real serious if it oiled down your rear tire at 70 or 80 MPH  [/highlight][smiley=nervous.gif]

Mine has 4200 miles............and  reading what you mentioned (highlighted) oh man I am now scary.....I realized when I was totally empty and I was coming at 60-70 under heavy thunderstorm....maybe that (excess of water) was the reason that I could get home without other mayor problem.... [smiley=nervous.gif]

Jorge

[FR8TRN]

On an 05 SEEG the kit part number that supplies both hoses is 62899-03A.  Just check and there is no supercession on that number since my parts catalog was published.  So still a good part number (Cost is $20.00 by the way.  For that little money for a pair of molded hoses you'd never find anyplace else I'm going to get a set to throw in the bike just for "what if" purposes.).

Anyone got an 06's part catalog to compare numbers against?

Yeah same part number in the '06 book also...

[Midnight Rider]

Same part number...odd that none of the SEEG's have had the problem....makes you wonder if the MOCO went to a different "low bidder" for the '06 model year oil cooler hoses [smiley=nervous.gif], who uses a cheaper material...I don't think that would surprise anyone here... [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

I've been in a couple of places in the last two weekends where if this had happened, I would have been f'd...no cell phone service, tiny two lane roads where you don't see a car in 30 minutes of riding....BFE in other words.  Getting to the bottom of this one will be critical for my peace of mind....

[Pap]

I guess that's why our scoots have a Tour Pak and Saddle bags....to carry spare parts and an ample supply of oil to get us home.  Sounds like we've gone backwards to days of old!    

[amigo Jorge]

Yeah same part number in the '06 book also...

thanks for the info....I now am afraid...I will have a couple of that in STOCK!!! [smiley=nervous.gif]
Jorge