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[spydglide]

This oil thread is becoming quite interesting.. ...(for a oil thread)  har.  spyder

[grc]

OK, once you get the pole all oiled up, who gets to do the pole dance?  If it's Terry, I don't think I want to watch.


Jerry

[mark]

Ask yourself a common sense question: if Amsoil is the cause of your HD engine failure, why don't we see this in a multitude of HD engines that run Amsoil in the crankcase?  If Amsoil is a "defective" oil that causes failure, it would be well publicized and documented.    

[Indenial]

Talked to Steve at Fullsac. He said that by at least 15,000 mi (if not every 10K) he recommends the lifter bearings be replaced. He sees a lot of breakdown of them and says this saves a lot of engines.  I know I'll seriously be thinking of doing this from now on.

[spydglide]

Talked to Steve at Fullsac. He said that by at least 15,000 mi (if not every 10K) he recommends the lifter bearings be replaced. He sees a lot of breakdown of them and says this saves a lot of engines.  I know I'll seriously be thinking of doing this from now on.

Sounds as if we're going back to the ole Shovelhead days of a tear down ea. winter to make another riding season.    spyder

[MKW]

Talked to Steve at Fullsac. He said that by at least 15,000 mi (if not every 10K) he recommends the lifter bearings be replaced. He sees a lot of breakdown of them and says this saves a lot of engines.  I know I'll seriously be thinking of doing this from now on.

I'll just keep buying the exended warranty for my new bikes and follow the recommended maintenance schedule put out by mother Harley and what ever happens they can shell out the coin to fix it.  I say that with a 9 day 4500 mile southwest trip planned for May.....................did I just jinx myself 

[BUCKNUT GREG]

Sounds as if we're going back to the ole Shovelhead days of a tear down ea. winter to make another riding season.    spyder

Ah  Spydy the memories just came rushing back.  Cause there was no better sound than
a Shovelhead loping.  Pure music I say 

[Skillet]

Ah  Spydy the memories just came rushing back.  Cause there was no better sound than
a Shovelhead loping.  Pure music I say 

I still have my 1980 Sturgis after 32 years and it has been fed 20-50 Castor GTX all that time. Had a lifter roller come apart and trashed the oil pump. Ater replacing parts filled her up again with Castor GTX.

[Bearcat1]

Amsoil is not snake oil...but you must believe that Mobile 1 is. If you have a bad part, no and I mean NO snake oil is going to keep it from going bad.

No, I don't think Mobil 1 is snake oil nor did I think Amsoil was either.  Never said I did.  I was just stating my experience with Amsoil and because of that experiece have sinced moved on to Mobil 1 with no issues.  And in this particular case I had no bad parts.  It was either oil that went bad or a bad oil filter or both.

[hogasm]

No, I don't think Mobil 1 is snake oil nor did I think Amsoil was either.  Never said I did.  I was just stating my experience with Amsoil and because of that experiece have sinced moved on to Mobil 1 with no issues.  And in this particular case I had no bad parts.  It was either oil that went bad or a bad oil filter or both.

Did you check to make sure that an EVO filter was not inadvertently installed. The EVO filter does not have an anti drain back valve, and will allow pooling in the oil tank which will allow less oil to the motor. An EVO filter on a TC gives the TC less filtration of the oil.
I have seen more than a few TC's  with EVO filters installed on them from our local dealership that have created internal problems in the motor.

[Bearcat1]

Can't honestly say that I checked on weather it was an EVO filter or not nor did I know that another filter would fit that bike.  Never too late to learn I guess.  Totally possible it could have been.  But if I had to guess I would say it wasn't.  When I talked to the Amsoil rep about it he suspected that the anti drain back valve was the culprit allowing the oil to drain back down therefore I had no oil at startup.  Funny thing is, the clatter and chatter got better after it ran for a while but never totally went away until I had an oil change and new filter installed.  But man that was a hot Texas summer a few year ago with temps over 100 degrees in June.  I am sure any oil in a Harley TC would have been begging for mercy at that point.

Did you check to make sure that an EVO filter was not inadvertently installed. The EVO filter does not have an anti drain back valve, and will allow pooling in the oil tank which will allow less oil to the motor. An EVO filter on a TC gives the TC less filtration of the oil.
I have seen more than a few TC's  with EVO filters installed on them from our local dealership that have created internal problems in the motor.

[porthole]

Life was easier with my old Sportster, no oil filters and 60w to to keep the knocking down  

[RCFlyer]

I had a front cam bearing fall apart and broke the oil pump gear so no oil was returned to the tank.  Lifters started clattering so I shut her right down. Long story short, it put metal throughout the engine and I rebuilt it to a 124 with welded crank, trued, etc.  New cam, oil pump, lifters, cam plate, roller rockers, jugs and pistons.  I had Revolution Performance do the lower end.  Put in a gear drive cam from T-man performance and a new throttle body from HP.  It runs great and I'm very happy with it. I'm using a Thundermax Autotune and still working the kinks out.  Plan on a dyno run after she's broken in.  BTW, Red Line oil.  Good luck on getting her rebuilt.

[Indenial]

The dealer called today, he said the dealership would give me a $1200 credit for help with parts and also a 10% discount on parts.  Better than nothing and I'm still in conversation with Harley, but not holding my breath.  You can bet I'll change the lifter bearings every 15K when it's back together.  It's too big a gamble with the number of people I've heard with 110's and bearing problems.  It would be a small expense to prevent a catastrophic one.  Also sending in an oil sample to Amsoil along with the filter next week.

[aclass]

Sorry to hear of the catastrophic failure Indenial. I wish you luck on the rebuild.   I purchased S&S lifters this Winter and am planning to try and make it to 20K before changing them. It's quite a shame actually.