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[bugfree]

Two days in a row, my SE 01 Road Glide, has shut off during throttle.  Once going 25 mph and second on Interstate 60 mph.  Died on both occassions, but started right back up.  Any suggestions where to look first to trouble shoot. (NO Power Commander, been there done that), bike has about 19,000 miles.  Help!
 
  

[RJ749]

Two days in a row, my SE 01 Road Glide, has shut off during throttle.  Once going 25 mph and second on Interstate 60 mph.  Died on both occassions, but started right back up.  Any suggestions where to look first to trouble shoot. (NO Power Commander, been there done that), bike has about 19,000 miles.  Help!  

Welcome to the site and congrats on the first post, sorry it was for a problem.

There is a recall on '01's for a circuit breaker.  If you haven't had it done, I can almost guarantee it is that.  Happens mostly when hot and running just as you describe.

Call the dealer with your VIN and have them check it for the recall.

http://motorcycles.about.com/library/recalls/blmotorecalls034t.htm

NHTSA Campaign ID:  04V134000
Component:  Electrical System: Fuses and Circuit Breakers
Manufacturer:  Harley-Davidson
 
Year:
2001 Make:
Harley-Davidson Model:
FLTRSEI-2 Recall Date:
03/17/2004
Potential Number of Units Affected: 81496
Manufactured:  
Defect Summary:
On certain touring and police model motorcycles, the 40 amp main circuit breaker can "open" for reasons other than which it was designed, causing an unexpected interruption of all electrical power to the motorcycle.
Consequence Summary:
This condition could cause the motorcycle to stall, which could result in a crash.
Corrective Summary:
Dealers will replace the circuit breaker. Owner notification began April 23, 2004. Owners should contact Harley-Davidson at 1-414-343-4056.  

[bugfree]

Yeah, My  40 amp circuit breaker has been replaced.  All gauges go off when it dies, turn to off and back, then everything powers back up.  Any other suggestions.....

[RJ749]

Has to be in that same core of wiring if all systems go off.  I'd have to make sure of the breaker and then work through the ignition and all connections as well as the things you most likely have already checked; grounds, starter connections, battery connections et al.

Since the breakers were suspect, it wouldn't be the first time that a replaced part failed.

[arcticdude]

Still sounds like the breaker, maybe you got a bad replacement. [smiley=nixweiss.gif]  Her's did just exactly that before it went completely.

[Ed Ramberger - One_Screamin_Eagle]

If the entire system shuts off and the recall has been done, I'd look at the terminals on the harness that connect to the circuit breaker.  I have heard that there were poor terminal connections in some of these that resulted in the terminals getting hot enough to trip the breaker.  My friend had to replece his terminals and the problem went away.  

This of course assumes that  you have no breaks in the wiring harness or any other electrical concerns.  However a complete system shutdown does point toward a breaker or an ignition switch.  

[bugfree]

I did some calling around and replaced the 40 recalled breaker,  now using a 50 because all the newer touring bikes currently use a 50  breaker.  Right now it seems to be okay, just too hot to ride.  Hopefully this will do the trick.  But if not, I will take advise to check terminals.  You may want to consider changing your circuit breakers to 50 or get that one for a spare.

[RJ749]

I did some calling around and replaced the 40 recalled breaker,  now using a 50 because all the newer touring bikes currently use a 50  breaker.  Right now it seems to be okay, just too hot to ride.  Hopefully this will do the trick.  But if not, I will take advise to check terminals.  You may want to consider changing your circuit breakers to 50 or get that one for a spare.

You may consider a short ride in the heat, that is when the symptom rears its ugly head.  Cooler temps often do not cause the stall.

[bugfree]

Good advise, will do....Standby for info

[pcr02hd]

Hey bugfree,

My other scoot is an 02 Deuce that I purchased new in 02. Just after the 1 year warranty ran out my bike started doing the same thing. First time it happened was on an interstate at 65 mph with a car on my a$$. It did it around 5 times that day.

Took the bike in to have it checked and after 2 hours of labor they could not find anything wrong they then took it for a 1/2 hour road test and the bike ran fine.

I took the bike home pulled the battery cables off and put loctite on the screws.

Bike ran fine for 2 years.

Last year towards the end of the ridding season it started doing it again. First thing I checked was the cables and all were still tight.

This year it has done it about half of the time I took it out.
Rode a benefit ride yesterday with 700+ bikes and it did it 5 times had to ditch out almost every time so I would not get rear ended.

What I have found that is when the bike shuts off, hitting the starter button will not turn it over. By flipping the kill switch off then back to on the bike will fire right back up, just like it reset something. I am now planning on changing this main breaker.

Oh by the way the recall for the touring bike breakers came out a month or two after I had my bike in for this problem.
I called HD and was told the recall was only for the touring line and didn't effect my model. I then told them I was having the same problems as the recall mentions and maybe they should investigate it. After I spoke to HD I then called the NHTSA and was told that the recall didn't effect my bike and there were no complaints logged for any other models. I then told them let me be the first to file a complaint. Never heard back from them.

I wonder how many other 01 and 02's have this problem.

[grc]

Hey bugfree,

My other scoot is an 02 Deuce that I purchased new in 02. Just after the 1 year warranty ran out my bike started doing the same thing. First time it happened was on an interstate at 65 mph with a car on my a$$. It did it around 5 times that day.

Took the bike in to have it checked and after 2 hours of labor they could not find anything wrong they then took it for a 1/2 hour road test and the bike ran fine.

I took the bike home pulled the battery cables off and put loctite on the screws.

Bike ran fine for 2 years.

Last year towards the end of the ridding season it started doing it again. First thing I checked was the cables and all were still tight.

This year it has done it about half of the time I took it out.
Rode a benefit ride yesterday with 700+ bikes and it did it 5 times had to ditch out almost every time so I would not get rear ended.

[highlight]What I have found that is when the bike shuts off, hitting the starter button will not turn it over. By flipping the kill switch off then back to on the bike will fire right back up, just like it reset something. I am now planning on changing this main breaker.[/highlight]
Oh by the way the recall for the touring bike breakers came out a month or two after I had my bike in for this problem.
I called HD and was told the recall was only for the touring line and didn't effect my model. I then told them I was having the same problems as the recall mentions and maybe they should investigate it. After I spoke to HD I then called the NHTSA and was told that the recall didn't effect my bike and there were no complaints logged for any other models. I then told them let me be the first to file a complaint. Never heard back from them.

I wonder how many other 01 and 02's have this problem.

Another possibility is the run/stop switch - I have heard of issues with them as well, especially with folks like me who never use it to shut the bike down.  (I've often wondered if that is why H-D recommends shutting the bike off with the kill switch, then shutting off the ignition switch - )

Jerry

[red1dr]

My 01 did the same thing. It took them 3 times to get it right. They replaced the intake gaskets and that has stopped it so far. Thanks for the info on the breaker recall.

[Talon]

Sure your problem was the same? His bike looses power to the gauges too, sounds like a loose connection or faulty electrical component. There,s no error codes after it restarts?

[djkak]

If the entire system shuts off and the recall has been done, I'd look at the terminals on the harness that connect to the circuit breaker.  I have heard that there were poor terminal connections in some of these that resulted in the terminals getting hot enough to trip the breaker.  My friend had to replece his terminals and the problem went away.  

I also heard that this issue was not uncommon.

djkak

[woody]

Sounds like an electrical problem to me. i'm not sure what toggling the kill switch off and on does to correct the problem, but this would be a good place to start looking for a short.