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[ultrafxr]

OK so please help me understand.  I respect and understand that for many there is never enough.  But does anyone truly feel that the current 110" engine does not produce sufficient power in its stock configuration for the type of riding most of us do?  I was out on my '12 cuse7 today and got a chance to wind it up several times.  Now I'll admit that with my '99 flhtcui with the original 88" twinkie the power left something to be desired, especially loaded and two-up.  But I gotta say this 110" pulls like a demon and I personally don't know what I would/could do with more.  I don't see the need to make changes for more power.

[kraut]

yes sir - low revs do leave a lot to be desired compared to the 88.

The 110 ca be a fury - but only if it will be freed of those EPA-induced restrictions MoCo had to build in.

[Midnight Rider]

OK so please help me understand.  I respect and understand that for many there is never enough.  But does anyone truly feel that the current 110" engine does not produce sufficient power in its stock configuration for the type of riding most of us do?  I was out on my '12 cuse7 today and got a chance to wind it up several times.  Now I'll admit that with my '99 flhtcui with the original 88" twinkie the power left something to be desired, especially loaded and two-up.  But I gotta say this 110" pulls like a demon and I personally don't know what I would/could do with more.  I don't see the need to make changes for more power.

I agree 100%, Jerry.  The only thing I did was exhaust and the TTS, but that was more to just let the motor breathe a little better and reduce the heat a little bit.  But even bone stock, it has plenty of power.  The stock cams are great right where you ride 90% of the time, and the bike pulls like a train when passing, etc.  I wouldn't change anything unless something broke and I had to go into the motor anyway, and then I'd just upgrade a few parts for quality purposes.

But for riding like we do, these bikes are all I need with regards to power.  Certainly a large improvement over the 103" in my '06.  Big seat of the pants difference to me.

[GregKhougaz]

Great point and question that reminds me of a true story:  Some years ago, a friend of mine asked me what to do to make his Porsche faster.  There used to be quite an aftermarket like for Harleys.  (It's more restricted now.)  I asked him how often he had "floored" the gas pedal.  He replied that he had never!  I suggested he try that a couple of times and see if that was fast enough for him.  Sure enough, it was.       

I'm sure we could apply that story to our 110s.  How many of us have really twisted the throttle in the power band and not gotten enough acceleration?  On the other hand, power is relative.  It's what you're used to.  Maybe that's why we always want more.       

[Big Dog]

From the 88 and 96 ci that I have owned, it is easier to ride, with enough passing power to overcome and if need be a little more. I ran mine since new in 09 with only Rinehart slipons and a flash with the SESPT, that was it. I only just changed my header and a proper dyno tune to get what I feel is a better running engine, like a proverbial "ahhh, finally, I can breath". Heat is reduced, engine does not go into "limp mode" as much and it sounds better. I had a friend that had an 09 SERG and he went with the 113" upgrade right out of the crate, and for what he spent on it to get it that way, it never did run right, so I guess you take your chances when you want the extra ponies, if it's done right and you're happy, being too spendy should not be relevant because cost versus hp output are on opposite sides of the spectrum. I'm happy today because there's only two weeks before the Spokane GTG, woohoo.

[110tHunDer]

I agree 100%, Jerry.  The only thing I did was exhaust and the TTS, but that was more to just let the motor breathe a little better and reduce the heat a little bit.  But even bone stock, it has plenty of power.  The stock cams are great right where you ride 90% of the time, and the bike pulls like a train when passing, etc.  I wouldn't change anything unless something broke and I had to go into the motor anyway, and then I'd just upgrade a few parts for quality purposes.

But for riding like we do, these bikes are all I need with regards to power.  Certainly a large improvement over the 103" in my '06.  Big seat of the pants difference to me.

One of my first posts when I got the '12 said I couldn't believe how strong it was stock.  I rode for 1,000 miles wondering if I'd made a mistake spending the coin on the Race Tuner and Fullsac exhaust that I'd already ordered .... it felt that good.  I completely agree with Terry's comment, that my 103 SEEG didn't come anywhere close to feeling as lively stock-for-stock.  And now with just the Fullsac exhaust on the 110, it feels just as good (actually, better on the low-end) as my 103 did with cams and exhaust, the only exception being that the 103 with Rineharts loved to be wound out, where with the 110, it's all over by 4,500, or so.

It's really impressive how this big-ass, heavy bike runs.  I pulled out from 65 to pass a semi on the way home from a short ride yesterday.  From 6th gear (no downshifting), it was up to 85 before I got up alongside.  Those stock cams have crazy low-end power.

[grayghost731]

Most of us are animals of HABIT, As guys we want to tweak it to make it  faster,stronger You no what I mean

We want to play with our new toy    To much power...  COME ON!      LOL

[SBB]

 I don't see the need to make changes for more power.

I'm with you Jerry.
I have changed a few things on the 11.5 not so much to gain more power but to achieve better efficiency.
The 11.5 has the Fullsac Sport pipe, the 2.0 Fullsac baffles, the Woods TW7H cams and the numbers are 104/118.
But the goal wasn't numbers, the goal was efficiency.
Being efficient is so dependent on a good tune.
The 11.5 was tuned by Bob at RC Cycles through Jim at Metal Dragon.
Riding solo under 80 mph typically gets me over 50 mpg.
Riding two up under 80 mph mileage is 46 to 49.
And when it's time to twist the throttle, the bike just goes and goes.
And for me that's good enough. Good enough that I plan to do the same to the 12 SERG.

SBB

[jcraig147]

OK so please help me understand.  I respect and understand that for many there is never enough.  But does anyone truly feel that the current 110" engine does not produce sufficient power in its stock configuration for the type of riding most of us do?  I was out on my '12 cuse7 today and got a chance to wind it up several times.  Now I'll admit that with my '99 flhtcui with the original 88" twinkie the power left something to be desired, especially loaded and two-up.  But I gotta say this 110" pulls like a demon and I personally don't know what I would/could do with more.  I don't see the need to make changes for more power.

The only way to answer that question is with another question.  Q: Why does a dog lick his balls? A: Because he can.  Nuff said?


I happen to like going much too fast, feeling sheer power from 0 to 90.......

Joe

[OlDog]

i agree with Big Dog! Just did a run on friday- 3.5 hours down a four lane and she cruised along at 130km/hr with lots more in reserve. Can't use the torque and power she has with only going with V&H slip ons and the tuner. More than satisfied.

[sadunbar]

You have a good point, Jerry...

I'm always messing with my motor - to the point of installing a 120r motor a year ago - because I like the hands on wrench turning in my own little personal "bike shop".  It's my form of relaxation...  I'd never pay someone else to work in my bike simply for the sake of a little more power, but I'm sure that as long as I have bikes, I'll be messing with them..   

[JCZ]

I'm just about to release a product that will relieve you of some of your HP and TQ when installed with the apprpriate exhaust, catalytic converter and clogged air cleaner.  Guranteed to work effectively on all 110" motors!

[scttgr8]

The only way to answer that question is with another question.  Q: Why does a dog lick his balls? A: Because he can.  Nuff said?


I happen to like going much too fast, feeling sheer power from 0 to 90.......

Joe

I dont think you can have too much chrome or too much power...like was asked above why does a dog lick his balls...because he can and it probably feels good doing it!!!
twist the wick you will see what we mean!         

[Steve Cole]

Simple answer

The definition of enough power is when you never find the end of the throttle! 

[scttgr8]

 

Simple answer

The definition of enough power is when you never find the end of the throttle! 

well put mr cole!