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[Rooster]

Well I have one in my 96 WG that has been in there for at least 40k and a few years. Shifts like butter and still doing fine. Of course it is a little different than the one I just installed in my 07 SEUC but I like this one better than the stock one for sure.

[North Georgia Hawg]

Help

What kind of chain tensior does this bike have and if putting the Hayden M6BT07 primary chain tensioner help

I have a 2013 cvo road king

Your bike has the stock POS Harley ratcheting primary chain tensioner. This tensioner ratchets up to tighten the chain, and then stays there. It will not come back down. This can, and often does, lead to over tightening of the primary chain.

An overly-tight primary chain puts stress on the primary bearing at the front, and on the transmission mainshaft bearing at the rear. I haven't seen any research documenting increased compensator wear from an over-tight primary chain... but my gut tells me that an overly-tight chain would seem to put stress on everything in the primary drive - including the compensator.

The Hayden BT07 is a spring-loaded tensioner that keeps the primary chain adjusted properly, and continually adjusts the chain tension via the springs. I have it on my bike, and I had in it my previous '95 E-Glide too.

I really like the Hayden. It's much better than the stock Harley ratcheting tensioner. The primary runs more smoothly, and doesn't clunk nearly as much when shifting. When I'm out riding with friends who still have the stock ratcheting tensioner, I can clearly hear them shift from neutral into first, even over the loud exhausts... and some of their bikes will even lurch a bit. My bike just clicks into first quietly.

Running a good gear lube such as Red Line Shockproof or a good 75W-135 or -145 gear lube in the tranny will quiet things down and make things run more smoothly, as well. I run the Red Line Shockproof in the tranny currently.

As someone else said - it's important to NOT overfill the primary. The fluid should just come up to the bottom of the clutch basket. It's only in there to cool the wet clutch and prevent the primary chain and sprockets from rusting. Too much primary oil can cause the clutch to drag when the lever is fully pulled in.

Ken

[Rooster]

I finally got to ride my bike after installing the Hayden tensioner. Shifts a little smoother and can find neutral easier. I no longer have that to tight feel. Once I get a few more miles I am sure it will be even smoother as the primary chain makes its little grooves in the pad. So far I am glad I changed.

[porthole]

A failing compensator will cause your bike to become hard starting, and will clunk and make racket when shifting, accelerating and de-accelerating, but won't necessarily effect shifting performance...

Scott - hard to start how?

[porthole]

Your bike has the stock POS Harley ratcheting primary chain tensioner. This tensioner ratchets up to tighten the chain, and then stays there. It will not come back down. This can, and often does, lead to over tightening of the primary chain.

An overly-tight primary chain puts stress on the primary bearing at the front, and on the transmission mainshaft bearing at the rear. I haven't seen any research documenting increased compensator wear from an over-tight primary chain... but my gut tells me that an overly-tight chain would seem to put stress on everything in the primary drive - including the compensator.

Good chance that will also have the clutch hub snap ring pop out 

Something that is not repairable and must be replaced.

[dano]

I have an 09 CVO ROAD GLIDE,  anyone know the part # for the Hayden chain tensioner.?

[grc]

I have an 09 CVO ROAD GLIDE,  anyone know the part # for the Hayden chain tensioner.?

M6  BT07 is the Hayden number. 

http://www.haydensm6.com/m6_bt07.htm

Jerry

[DrSpencer]

Can anyone comment on the Baker vs. Hayden chain tensioner?

Thanks

[grc]

Can anyone comment on the Baker vs. Hayden chain tensioner?

Thanks

Apples and oranges basically.  One is automatic, the other requires manual adjustments.  With the Baker you would have to either install a new outer primary cover with an access cover for the adjuster, or you would have to remove the outer primary cover each time you want to inspect and adjust the primary chain.  It is basically like the old manual adjusters that were stock on Harley's prior to 2007.  Many of us installed the earlier versions of the Hayden on those earlier model Harleys to eliminate the manual adjuster btw.

Jerry

[DrSpencer]

Are the Hayden or the Baker more noisy than the stock HD?

Thanks

[Rooster]

Yes I have had a Hayden in my old 96 Wide Glide for years and it shifts like butter so I had no problem trying it in my 07 and I can tell you it is very smooth shifting and hardly any clunk dropping into 1st gear. Pressing it down and using a couple of zip ties made it very easy to slip into place.

[mjb765]

Are the Hayden or the Baker more noisy than the stock HD?

Thanks

I have the Hayden..easy to install and the chain does not over-tighten so that noise will not be there.....the tensioner itself makes no noise.

[JoeSDE]

My primary was quieter after I installed the Hayden on my 10 FLHTK.          JoeS

[dano]

I'm reading on ebay the bt07 isn't compatible with the 09 CVO ROAD GLIDE?? Anyone else come across that.?

[mjb765]

I'm reading on ebay the bt07 isn't compatible with the 09 CVO ROAD GLIDE?? Anyone else come across that.?

Works with 07 and up Big Twins

http://www.haydensm6.com/m6_bt07.htm