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BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« on: July 20, 2013, 02:09:43 AM »

hi Folks... I havent posted this here until now as I had thought this was isolated to punks in Hawaii.

However... on 1 July 2013 Our home was broken into.

here is the text of the ad I posted on CL:

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REWARD OFFERED!
 
Sometime during the day on Monday July 1 2013, our home was broken into, and Jewelry (Hawaiian Bracelets) and Harley Davidson Watches made by Bulova were stolen, along with lots of Harley-Davidson memorabilia.

The Hawaiian Bracelets were 4,6,8 and 10mm and were all engraved DMLL on the inside. On the outside was either LOKELANI or DAWNIE.

There was also a Hawaiian ID bracelet with the same markings.
 
5 stone marquis cut diamonds on simple setting, very sentimental and has little to no cash value.

Harley Watches: 100th anniversary Harley watch with leather band and a flip face that exposes the movement. This was one of 1000 made.
 
The second was Harley's skeletal design with stainless band. Orange bar and shield inside, and crystal faces front and back. Very NICE watch as this was worn ONCE!
 
The third was a stainess watch with stainless band and an orange face.
 
Harley Stop watch, model 76A03, no chain, with leather pouch.
 
110th anniversary ZIPPO lighter, NEW IN BOX
 
HOG Stereo Headphones, with soft case: USED ONCE. Stenciled with "Harley Owners Group" across the band and HOG logo on each speaker pod.
 
H.O.G. Challenge coins (4)
 
H.O.G. Chapter Challenge coins (2) WINDWARD OAHU CHAPTER KANEOHE HI
 
CVOharley.com Challenge coins (2)
 
CVOharley.com 10th anniversary challege coins (2)

1 120GB Ipod classic (FULL of various music) silver in color.
 
PLEASE, if you know who has these items and more (only the key items are listed) please contact me at 808-291-1328 OR Call 911 and reference report # 13-238848
 
Your kokua(help) is appreciated.

Mahalo.
 
Black Saddlebag Luggage (1 only) was used to carry all of the above items from the house.

Along with this were some snap on tools....

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Upon closer inspection, some tools were also taken.
 
Snap on prybars 36" ($119.95) SBPS36O AND 24" (64.50) SBPS24O
 
Auto Xray 6000 scan tool $389.95 WITH ALL ACCESSORIES OBD I AND II AND PC UPDATE SOFTWARE.
 
SNAP ON 1/4" SET # 144TMPB ($499)
 
SNAP ON RATCHETING SCREWDRIVER SET SGDMRC108AO $379.95
 
HARLEY DAVIDSON HITCH PLUG ($50) GIFT

and cigars.... even the embargo stash (That really pisses me off)

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NOT TO MENTION A NEW BOX OF ISLAND PRINCE DARK CIGARS (NUI LOA) $213

AND I CANT CLAIM THE EMBARGO CIGARS... DAMMNIT.

Now... I wasnt expecting to see this stuff again....

But the ad on CL was to see if anyone would take the bait.

Today, at just before 7am hawaii time I get a call from a number with a MO Area Code. The caller said his name was Larry and he was in Milwaukee. He caught my voicemail and his call is recorded.

When I returned his call, he indicated he was in Hawaii recently for Anniversary and that he had bought everything from some a couple and another guy... skinny guys. For the sum of $375.

He asked me to describe the items but did not reveal any info. I asked him if he would be willing to snap a pic of the items... he refused. Said he didnt want to get into trouble.  (he already is)

I indicated I had no intention of pursuing charges against him. I just want my stuff back...

Now... lots of back and forth but he wont do anything to prove he actually has the stuff.

What I'm looking for is someone that may be able to ping the cell phone to see where it is.

I was also able to backtrace the cell number and have a name with MO info. FYI the name he used is NOT the same name the number is registered to.

If someone can help I'd appreciate it.

you can call me at 808-291-1328... My name is Rob.

I'm not willing right now to post the number and his name publicly.

Someone with the ability to help I will share...

He is either trying to scam me... or has my stuff but is very stupid.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #1 on: July 20, 2013, 07:27:54 AM »

As you said "SCAM". Most of these type of replies are, as you well know. But what the hell, keep giving him line. You NEED a pic. Regretfully, pretending like you have someones property is not against the law. Maybe we have some law enforcement members that could help you with a backtrace.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #2 on: July 20, 2013, 12:19:03 PM »

I am sure you already have,  but turn all of the information in to your investigating officer. They will be able to "reach out" to the police department that is local to the number who will in turn, squeeze his scrotum to either get your stuff and more info to help catch the perpetrator or change his mind about doing this type of scam to anyone else....ever.

Sorry for your loss.

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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #3 on: July 20, 2013, 01:02:38 PM »

As you said "SCAM". Most of these type of replies are, as you well know. But what the hell, keep giving him line. You NEED a pic. Regretfully, pretending like you have someones property is not against the law. Maybe we have some law enforcement members that could help you with a backtrace.

pretending you have someones stuff to extort money from them is.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #4 on: July 20, 2013, 01:03:29 PM »

I am sure you already have,  but turn all of the nformation in to your investigating officer. They will be able to "reach out" to the police department that is local to the number who will in turn, squeeze his scrotum to either get your stuff and more info to help catch the perpetrator or change his mind about doing this type of scam to anyone else....ever.

Sorry for your loss.

Jerry



Heres the pincher: No detective is yet assigned to this case.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #5 on: July 20, 2013, 01:42:16 PM »

Where in Missouri?
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #6 on: July 20, 2013, 02:12:07 PM »

Where in Missouri?

Cell carrier is St Louis

Phone number 417-619-0351

Name: Elton Moats
Cell carrier: Ariel Communications

Radaris showed several potential addresses.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #7 on: July 20, 2013, 02:14:55 PM »

Heres the pincher: No detective is yet assigned to this case.
Contact the responding officer(s) with the information... they should be able to enter an addendum to their report for when an investigator is assigned.

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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2013, 05:28:01 PM »

Cell carrier is St Louis

Phone number 417-619-0351

Name: Elton Moats
Cell carrier: Ariel Communications

Radaris showed several potential addresses.

417-619 area code and exchange actually is for Springfield in SW Missouri rather than St. Louis in NE Missouri.  Couple hundred miles apart.  Though with number portability the city exchange information isn't an absolute anymore.

A very quick check, however, showed the number as still belonging to Springfield.  That happens to be just an hour away from me.  Can get in to it a bit if you'd like.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #9 on: July 20, 2013, 05:52:12 PM »

Just some food for thought... no matter what the area code/exchange of a (cell) phone is doesn't necessarily mean the user of that phone is from/in that area. With the portability of cell phone(s)/number(s) and the availability of "throw away" cell phones unless you are able to obtain the cell towers the phone is using you will not know where the user/phone is actually located. Could be the "chithead" is located where the area code/exchange his phone belongs to is there and just searching craigslist adds for the opportunity for a scam or maybe they aren't. :nixweiss:

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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #10 on: July 20, 2013, 11:48:34 PM »

Maybe I'm just naive but how do you know he isn't telling you the truth?   :nixweiss:
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« Reply #11 on: July 21, 2013, 03:11:37 AM »

Just some food for thought... no matter what the area code/exchange of a (cell) phone is doesn't necessarily mean the user of that phone is from/in that area. With the portability of cell phone(s)/number(s) and the availability of "throw away" cell phones unless you are able to obtain the cell towers the phone is using you will not know where the user/phone is actually located. Could be the "chithead" is located where the area code/exchange his phone belongs to is there and just searching craigslist adds for the opportunity for a scam or maybe they aren't. :nixweiss:

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Which is exactly why I wanted to know if anyone had resources to  "ping" the phone and see if he was telling the truth.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #12 on: July 21, 2013, 03:14:50 AM »

Maybe I'm just naive but how do you know he isn't telling you the truth?   :nixweiss:

Tell me something... would you send this guy a reward without him providing any proof he has the items?

I'm already out the damage to the house, a weeks worth of fixing crap, my wife spent a week doing laundry after they tossed all our clothes all over the floor!

I'm not willing to just send $500 to someone on the phone that wont even snap a pic of the items he says he has.
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #13 on: July 21, 2013, 07:08:32 AM »

Tell me something... would you send this guy a reward without him providing any proof he has the items?

I'm already out the damage to the house, a weeks worth of fixing crap, my wife spent a week doing laundry after they tossed all our clothes all over the floor!

I'm not willing to just send $500 to someone on the phone that wont even snap a pic of the items he says he has.

You couldn't help the break in, glad to see it didn't make you stupid!!!
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Re: BURGULARY... 7/1/2013 in HAWAII
« Reply #14 on: July 21, 2013, 09:29:18 AM »

Keep it simple.  Call the guy back.  Tell him you can see the number he's calling from is probably Springfield, MO and that you've got a friend only an hour away.  Then ask what public place in Springfield we can meet to see the stuff.  I'd even apologize for the overweight charges he probably had to pay the airline to bring all the stuff home just to sniff him out more.
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