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[GC_Super]

After the 110'' kit is in the bike will it safely run so the pcIII can be dynoed and tuned


Or if warranty work has to be done I would like to take the pcIII off and ride it in.


It's a matter of the warranty !

[BLM777]

Well, my .02 on this is:

[speedfreek]

Like I said in a post earlier, the SERT will void warranty, but I have personally experienced ANY engine or parts failures due to it's use.  This is a MOCO decision, just like any vehicle manufacturer, whether motorcycle of car.  A powertrain warranty will be voided it factory tuning is changed.  My reccommendation is this, I reccommend the SERT over PC3 and especially a download.  If a shop is building engines, they should have a dyno and experienced tuner.  Your bike should not be returned back to you without a proper tune.  A "proper" tune shoud be one that makes safe power at 100%, cruises economically, starts easy, and accelerates from heavy loads without pinging.  If the bike is tuned this way, it will be completely safe to ride and NO engine failures should be contributed to tuning.  Trust your shop and hang the responsibilty of tuning on them.  Just remember, even a properly tuned bike will blow up if it's abused or not maintained, and those things will kill a bike and it warranty far quicker the installing a SERT.

[Fired00d]

Like I said in a post earlier, the SERT will void warranty, but I have personally experienced ANY engine or parts failures due to it's use.......

Should this have been "I have personally experienced [highlight]NO[/highlight] engine or parts failure do to it's use". [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

/me is hoping that is what you meant. [smiley=sweatdrop.gif]

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Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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[ultrafxr]

OK my head hurts now.  Think I'll have a beer.   [smiley=drink.gif]

[Hoist!]

After the 110'' kit is in the bike will it safely run so the pcIII can be dynoed and tuned


Or if warranty work has to be done I would like to take the pcIII off and ride it in.


It's a matter of the warranty !

[rodsglide]

The bike at 2000 miles has a leak at the engine case, The dealer said they have to split the engine case to fix it . All work covered by my warranty, My bike can become a se 110 ''  ( The kit is on the 2nd page of the big parts book.)    96'' to a 110''

Labor free to me, I just have to buy the kit .

I can get a se 110''for     1400.00    

[Hoist!]

The bike at 2000 miles has a leak at the engine case, The dealer said they have to split the engine case to fix it . All work covered by my warranty, My bike can become a se 110 ''

[Hoist!]

You'll need Part #812-511 PC III USB and Two Part Number 76423005 O2 Sensor eliminators.

Best price and service I have found is from Jamie @ fuelmotousa 1-877-729-4754. He will load a map that will get you close to your application as well.

Do the O2 Eliminators have any impact on the stock ECM operation (closed loop system) and would the ECM show that the O2 sensors have been disconnected from the system, even though they're reconnected for service? I assume that this makes the ECM/PC operate on a map only (no closed loop feedback). Is this info visible to the DT?

[ultrafxr]

Do the O2 Eliminators have any impact on the stock ECM operation (closed loop system) and would the ECM show that the O2 sensors have been disconnected from the system, even though they're reconnected for service? I assume that this makes the ECM/PC operate on a map only (no closed loop feedback). Is this info visible to the DT?

[Chief]

Hoist!

Hurry up would you?  My bike is almost here and I don't know what to do.  You've got more time to wait, but some of us are getting close to delivery.  Hurry up and find the perfect  [smiley=huepfenjump3.gif] combination so I can go spend some of Mama's money.

Cheers!

[Hoist!]

I spoke to Jamie @ fuelmoto.

[Hoist!]

Hoist!

Hurry up would you?

[Midnight Rider]

The PCIII leaves no trace of itself in the ECM when removed.  It simply overides or fools the ECM into doing what it wants it to do...the ECM still functions normally, and no trace is detectable if a dealer hooks up to the ECM.  From my understanding, the dealers can't even read the base map installed at the factory, but can read any changes made by a SERT or Digital Tech download, which funtions as an "overlay" to the stock ECM programming.  As mentioned by Jerry above, the PCIII fools the ECM into thinking it's in open loop all the time and runs off the PC map.  As hd-dude mentioned, Fuelmotousa is about the best place to get one, and Jamie will load a map for your set up that will get you up and running...I got a map installed for my SE slips...worked well, bike ran good, but a bit on the rich side, so the fuel milage dropped.  When I put the Rineharts on, Jamie e-mailed me a map for that set-up and it ran fine too, but I wanted it dialed in, so got a tune.  Both maps provided by Jamie worked well, they were just a little on the rich side...better to err on that side than let things remain too lean.


My 2 cents...

[Chief]

I'm workin' it man, I'm workin' it! It's tough thinking of all the questions, as the answers seem to lead to more questions. It appears that the PC, if you're willing to go thru the trouble of removing and replacing it, when necessary, is the safest bet. That's providing you're only doing the minimum, while under Warranty, like I am. TD's w/ S&S SPO's (on order) and K&N HD-0800 (got it). This combo should allow you to run on the stock ECM, when necessary, without any more damage than the stock engine would cause. At least according to HD.