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[the jacobite]

Has anyone on here ever had any problems wearing the CVO patch while riding, in my area certain MC clubs will challenge a new patch on the scene and I am not sure whether to chance it or not.

yip same up here not allowed patch on the back with or without rockers, the exception being Hog chapters

[FLHTCUSE7]

They don't have bottom rockers. A bottom rocker is u-shaped.

HOG does indeed have "bottom" rockers such as road captain, photographer, membership officer, etc. I have 3 under my HOG patch with the local top rocker.

[Paulsmerc]

If your local rumor is indeed true, it's possible whoever was offended was not up to date with the intricacies of biker gang patch etiquette. 

Pick any group and no matter how exclusive or how thorough the group is when vetting prospective members, there will always be a small percentage of idiots that slip through.   

Beemer

The person offended was the president of the local HA, I am not going to argue with them as I have seen the results (another club shut down by them)

[2018_FLTRXSE]

The person offended was the president of the local HA, I am not going to argue with them as I have seen the results (another club shut down by them)

I notice you're in the UK. Thats probably where the difference is... I know in Australia it is the same... the outlaw clubs dont let anyone ride with any kind of patch.

HOG went to great lengths to get the 1% clubs to agree to leave the HOG's alone, and in return there is no bottom rocker with HOG patches. Any bottom rocker you see is not sanctioned by HOG and the rider wears it at his/her own risk.

[spada84]

I notice you're in the UK. Thats probably where the difference is... I know in Australia it is the same... the outlaw clubs dont let anyone ride with any kind of patch.

HOG went to great lengths to get the 1% clubs to agree to leave the HOG's alone, and in return there is no bottom rocker with HOG patches. Any bottom rocker you see is not sanctioned by HOG and the rider wears it at his/her own risk.

A local HOG member made a patch with his nick-name for a matching bottom rocker.  He was told in no uncertain terms to remove it.

[2018_FLTRXSE]

A local HOG member made a patch with his nick-name for a matching bottom rocker.  He was told in no uncertain terms to remove it.

Exactly...

[kraut]

Club habits and attitudes can be very different even within one country, additionally they are subject to constant changes. Whereas in Saxony - today! - nobody will be challenged for whatever he cares to wear on his back, already 100 m further north in Brandenburg or around Magdeburg you can get in real trouble for any sort of patch some local club chooses to dislike. And just some years ago some crazy kids even around here used a shotgun to disposess an uncooperative patch holder.

As I travel much and in several countries, I don't wear any patch. I don't need any dispute about such things, especially not in a foreign country. When visiting a church in spanish or polish countryside I would not go topless either 

If you are not a MC member why would you want to look even remotely like one, btw?

[owl893]

Hans,

The phrase "If I have to explain, you wouldn't understand" comes to mind, but since you asked the question I will attempt a response.  Our vests, pins, patches, etc. are about pride.  Pride in our choice of motorcycle, pride in the years we have owned, pride in the many places we have gone, pride in our common bond which is the motorcycle experience. Given your level of participation here, I can see you too share these values.

I do not wear my vest(s) to intimidate or threaten others, I wear them to show this pride and (hopefully) to introduce myself to others.  Many times I've had someone (I don't know) say "Hey I see you went to the Maggie Valley State Rally" or remark about one of my destination pins or patches that I have.  Why hardcore MC clubs would find this a threat I do not understand, but then bullies in groups do irrational things all the time with or without club affiliation; reference our recent incident involving a bunch of thrill riders beating up a guy in front of his wife and daughter.

A vest or jacket that displays these values are not an attempt to look like a Gang Member, and to tell you the truth, the Gang Members that I know, could care less. As previously noted, add bottom rockers and/or a territory, then yes, you are asking for trouble.

OWL

[Chains]

Maybe Clay could fill us in on protocol. Oh crap I forgot he got waisted. 

[1sharprdkg]

I have one of these I wear from time to time. In the 99% world it is hilarious. In the 1% world it has been described as an insult and a "Wanna Be".

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Just sayin!

I'm in this club, just don't have the T-shirt!!lol 

[T-Roy]

Like a bunch of kids whining about patches? I mean come on, if they're that chickensh!t about what someone wears, I can promise ya that I've got no time for that BS or the ones that are spreading it. I'll wear what I want to wear.

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