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Once the shop got everything apart they discovered brass particles throughout everything. Oil pump, oil pan. I assume this it what scored the cylinder walls so bad. They said it was from the brass bushings on the connecting rods?  Said the new ones don't have this? Also, once the primary was disasembled, discovered a lot of black sludge in the bottom of it. I have always ran Redline's primary fluid and changed at 5 to 10,000 miles. I almost always pull a bushtech trailer with this bike as I only use it for touring. Am usually always on the interstate ruining between 75 and 80. Maybe I've just ran this thing too hard?  I don't know but I'm about done with HD. $37,000 motorcycle can't last anymore than 25,000 miles is pitiful. I see a 1600 GTL in my future.

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[Jswerve]

Once the shop got everything apart they discovered brass particles throughout everything. Oil pump, oil pan. I assume this it what scored the cylinder walls so bad. They said it was from the brass bushings on the connecting rods?  Said the new ones don't have this? Also, once the primary was disasembled, discovered a lot of black sludge in the bottom of it. I have always ran Redline's primary fluid and changed at 5 to 10,000 miles. I almost always pull a bushtech trailer with this bike as I only use it for touring. Am usually always on the interstate ruining between 75 and 80. Maybe I've just ran this thing too hard? I don't know but I'm about done with HD. $37,000 motorcycle can't last anymore than 25,000 miles is pitiful. I see a 1600 GTL in my future.

Glad I am not the only one that feels this way. 

[skreminegul07]

As an early victim of the 110 motor, my had .020 at 7000 miles and was replaced.  I traded it for a 2006 TC88 Street Glide and have never looked back.  I had Andrews 26 and hydraul.ic cam plate upgrade at 30,000 and the runout was .002!

I guess not too many bikes are getting gear drive theese days!

Just sad.

[Rooster]

As an early victim of the 110 motor, my had .020 at 7000 miles and was replaced.  I traded it for a 2006 TC88 Street Glide and have never looked back.  I had Andrews 26 and hydraul.ic cam plate upgrade at 30,000 and the runout was .002!

I guess not too many bikes are getting gear drive theese days!

Just sad.

With HD these days you either draw a long straw and have little to no issues, or you draw the short straw and have more and worse issues. Problem is more short straws than long straws. There that about sums it up.

[twinotter]

The original TC88's had forged cranks from 99-02. I've never witnessed a bad crank from those. It may have happened, by I have no recollection of it. My 01 crank showed .0005 runout, someone took the time to make sure it was right!
The problems all started when some moneygrubbing a...le at HD said he could save Moco a boatload of $$ by going to a cast crank!! At the time, the cast crank where done in the USA at least.I've witnessed a couple of crank failures, but most held together fine.
 About the same time,  another HD prime said hell, lets use a single row bearing on the drive side, more $$ saved. Then going overseas to get bearings, and cranks, the situation has progressively gotten worse. (all to save $$).
Crank runout in the original was considered good at .0015, with a rebuild required at .003. That should have happened some 100,000miles down the road under normal conditions with proper maintainance.
Now they expect us to believe that .012 is acceptable and would cause no issues! Just one little point here, since the cam plate also supports the oil pump, and the crank end goes thru the camplate with.001 clearance when new, how much support will it have when the wobbling crank hogs it out to .012 or more.
Even worse,imo, that hole in the camplate is where the main feed to the crank pin/ connecting rods gets its oil supply! How much pressure/ volume is lost when the .001 tolerance new is opened up to .012!! Now the crank pin and rods are only getting a small portion of the oil they probably require to live.
Harley's answer seems to be, "don't give a sh..t" as long as it survives thru the warranty period, the suckers will still keep buying our crap, they're loyal to us forever. And this is all stock, add any performance enhancers,, and the failure possibilities rises expotentially. There I'm done  Twinotter