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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #45 on: July 01, 2014, 05:47:05 PM »
Quote from: Jswerve on July 01, 2014, 11:45:10 AM
Rooster you bring up a great point. I am calling the tech now to see if replacing some of the stock components with higher quality options is in order.

Jesse

I imagine some of the head vendors may chime in...  AV&V would be my choice for valve train components.

http://www.av-v.com/products1.htm   
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #46 on: July 01, 2014, 06:10:36 PM »
 ??? how dose a valve stick in a loose guide  :nixweiss: or did the guide move ? just trying to understand this
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #47 on: July 01, 2014, 06:11:27 PM »
Quote from: fastfreddy on July 01, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
??? how dose a valve stick in a loose guide  :nixweiss: or did the guide move ? just trying to understand this

Carbon build up on the valve stem.
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #48 on: July 01, 2014, 06:12:45 PM »
Quote from: fastfreddy on July 01, 2014, 06:10:36 PM
??? how dose a valve stick in a loose guide  :nixweiss: or did the guide move ? just trying to understand this

Carbon buildup on the valve stem and in the valve guide...

edit:  (yeah, what he said)
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #49 on: July 01, 2014, 06:14:13 PM »
Quote from: sadunbar on July 01, 2014, 06:12:45 PM
Carbon buildup on the valve stem and in the valve guide...

edit: (yeah, what he said)
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #50 on: July 01, 2014, 06:15:27 PM »
Quote from: sadunbar on July 01, 2014, 06:12:45 PM
Carbon buildup on the valve stem and in the valve guide...

edit: (yeah, what he said)

What is the cause of such buildup?   :nixweiss:
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #51 on: July 01, 2014, 06:20:03 PM »
Quote from: ultrafxr on July 01, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
What is the cause of such buildup?   :nixweiss: humm carbon...that sux
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #52 on: July 01, 2014, 06:23:31 PM »
Quote from: ultrafxr on July 01, 2014, 06:15:27 PM
What is the cause of such buildup?   :nixweiss:

You're always going to have some carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.  The quality of the fuel and the tune can contribute to carbon build up.  However, the loose guide allows excess oil to drain down the valve stem, the combustion heat turns this oil to carbon, which in turn robs the stem and guide from receiving proper lubrication. 

At the end of the day, the valve seizes in the guide because of insufficient lubrication, but the cycle started with excessive lubrication because of the loose fit.
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #53 on: July 01, 2014, 06:25:29 PM »
Quote from: sadunbar on July 01, 2014, 06:23:31 PM
You're always going to have some carbon buildup in the combustion chamber.  The quality of the fuel and the tune can contribute to carbon build up.  However, the loose guide allows excess oil to drain down the valve stem, the combustion heat turns this oil to carbon, which in turn robs the stem and guide from receiving proper lubrication. 

At the end of the day, the valve seizes in the guide because of insufficient lubrication, but the cycle started with excessive lubrication because of the loose fit.
Exactly.  Thank you.
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #54 on: July 01, 2014, 07:08:42 PM »
So Jesse, how many miles do you have on the bike when it let go?

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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #55 on: July 01, 2014, 07:17:27 PM »
Quote from: tazmun on July 01, 2014, 07:08:42 PM
So Jesse, how many miles do you have on the bike when it let go?

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Almost 19k
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #56 on: July 01, 2014, 07:39:40 PM »
Sorry to hear you had a breakdown on your trip Jesse.......Hope they get your big red machine back on the road soon.......just curious....how far from home were you when it happened?
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #57 on: July 01, 2014, 07:41:00 PM »
Quote from: WestCoastRuss on July 01, 2014, 07:39:40 PM
Sorry to hear you had a breakdown on your trip Jesse.......Hope they get your big red machine back on the road soon.......just curious....how far from home were you when it happened?
600 miles. It's really putting a damper on my holiday.
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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #58 on: July 01, 2014, 09:18:48 PM »
Damn, what a cluster ****!

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Re: Currently broke down in southern Indiana
« Reply #59 on: July 01, 2014, 09:26:04 PM »
Glad you made it home safe and the bike sounds like it is at a good dealer.
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