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[Jswerve]

Damn, what a cluster ****!

Mike
 

You read all the issues with this 110 on the forums but you say to yourself you are only seeing a handful of whats out there and there are a lot great running bikes out there and then BAM you get the massive failure. Makes me want to fix it and sell it. If I had a car motor fail at 19k I would be seriously pissed off yet it seems to be a common issue on Harleys and one that people just shrug off?

[porthole]

Do the 110's have an issue with the guides dropping? That is what caused my bent valve.

[Jswerve]

Do the 110's have an issue with the guides dropping? That is what caused my bent valve.

I am not sure but I do not have a warm and fuzzy feeling for any of the QC from the factory. Play in the valve guides on both of my heads real nice...

[Jswerve]

Let me add that after leaving my baby broke down 600 miles away in a strange land I passed an 04 Cherry on the interstate and couldn't help but think REALLY? My 12 can't complete a 4k trip and this guy is out on a 2004! GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR....

[110tHunDer]

 
Well, if it was red it was an '05, but not that it matters.  I had an '04 SEEG and broke down about 300 miles from home.  Wasn't catastrophic engine damage, but still pissed me off enough to trade up to the '12 SEUC.  Built the motor right away in it, but still feel like I'm at the mercy of the 110 gods.  Air-cooled, 110 year-old designs bring air-cooled, 110 year-old problems.

[Jswerve]

Well, if it was red it was an '05, but not that it matters.  I had an '04 SEEG and broke down about 300 miles from home.  Wasn't catastrophic engine damage, but still pissed me off enough to trade up to the '12 SEUC.  Built the motor right away in it, but still feel like I'm at the mercy of the 110 gods.  Air-cooled, 110 year-old designs bring air-cooled, 110 year-old problems.

Damn I always get the 04 and 05 mixed up. Yes 05 cherry.

[SBB]

My 2009 SEUC at 19,989 miles, front cylinder exhaust valve guide slipped down toward the piston.
Exhaust valve held open. Intake valve bent. Probably same issue on Jesse's bike. (different cylinder, same issue)

Warranty covered mine also.

SBB

Something I want to mention that to me is important. Before my 09 SEUC went clatter, clatter, clatter I was warned.
The problem was that no one knew what was happening. Maybe once out of a hundred accelerations (up to redline) as I hit the higher RPM's all of a sudden I would lose power, just like cutting the bike off. The Harley shop had no clue, no one did. Until everything came loose. What was happening was the valve guide on a hard acceleration would slip down and hold the exhaust valve open. Bingo, any valve open = no compression = motor not running. Then the guide would go back in place and everything was fine. Until the last time and the guide stuck. The valve stuck and intake valve hit exhaust valve then the clattering meant motor was done.

A couple thoughts Jesse, my Harley shop replaced everything with new parts and they assembled the heads from those parts.
1) If the dealer is installing a new factory assembled head, I wouldn't have the warm fuzzies. If they are going to assemble the head I would go for that.
2) With 19000 + miles the shop also noticed the tensioners were very worn so they were replaced.
3) When the shop assembling the heads (they did both) I went on to put 30,000 more miles on that bike.

Harley Davidson of Charlotte took good care of me. All they asked in return was "Chip, please don't run anymore race gas."
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Do the 110's have an issue with the guides dropping? That is what caused my bent valve.

Yes!
I'm think lack of quality assembly at the factory.

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You read all the issues with this 110 on the forums but you say to yourself you are only seeing a handful of whats out there and there are a lot great running bikes out there and then BAM you get the massive failure. Makes me want to fix it and sell it.

Jesse, been there, felt the same way. I have since purchased two more 110's since that 09 SEUC. Am I disappointed in the issues that surround these high dollar bikes, YES. I am very fortunate to have a great dealer that will take care of my issues. Should any arise.
We pay our money, we have fun, we deal with issues when they arise. You have had 19K miles of fun don't let a bad issue spoil that future fun. Let the dealer fix the bike. (hopefully assembling the head in his shop) Please don't be offended by what I'm going to say next. In the big scheme of things if I saw you and your wife pass by on that beautiful bike I'd probably be thinking "I wish they had a helmet on" versus "I wonder how long that 110 is going to last this time."

But that's just me.
Good luck with the repair and then go riding.
Riding is a passion you, I and the great members of this site share.
Don't let one issue get to you.





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[Jswerve]

Something I want to mention that to me is important. Before my 09 SEUC went clatter, clatter, clatter I was warned.
The problem was that no one knew what was happening. Maybe once out of a hundred accelerations (up to redline) as I hit the higher RPM's all of a sudden I would lose power, just like cutting the bike off. The Harley shop had no clue, no one did. Until everything came loose. What was happening was the valve guide on a hard acceleration would slip down and hold the exhaust valve open. Bingo, any valve open = no compression = motor not running. Then the guide would go back in place and everything was fine. Until the last time and the guide stuck. The valve stuck and intake valve hit exhaust valve then the clattering meant motor was done.

A couple thoughts Jesse, my Harley shop replaced everything with new parts and they assembled the heads from those parts.
1) If the dealer is installing a new factory assembled head, I wouldn't have the warm fuzzies. If they are going to assemble the head I would go for that.
2) With 19000 + miles the shop also noticed the tensioners were very worn so they were replaced.
3) When the shop assembling the heads (they did both) I went on to put 30,000 more miles on that bike.

Harley Davidson of Charlotte took good care of me. All they asked in return was "Chip, please don't run anymore race gas."
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Yes!
I'm think lack of quality assembly at the factory.

***************************************************************
Jesse, been there, felt the same way. I have since purchased two more 110's since that 09 SEUC. Am I disappointed in the issues that surround these high dollar bikes, YES. I am very fortunate to have a great dealer that will take care of my issues. Should any arise.
We pay our money, we have fun, we deal with issues when they arise. You have had 19K miles of fun don't let a bad issue spoil that future fun. Let the dealer fix the bike. (hopefully assembling the head in his shop) Please don't be offended by what I'm going to say next. In the big scheme of things if I saw you and your wife pass by on that beautiful bike I'd probably be thinking "I wish they had a helmet on" versus "I wonder how long that 110 is going to last this time."

But that's just me.
Good luck with the repair and then go riding.
Riding is a passion you, I and the great members of this site share.
Don't let one issue get to you.





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Chip they have ordered new heads and guides and valves and will be assembling them to my knowledge. I'm calling the service manager at 9 am for a full update. He was gone on Monday.

[Jswerve]

Lol and Chip we both had helmets on the entire trip. I even wore mine on the way home although I didn't have to once I reached Kentucky I chose to keep it on. The half helmets I purchased are very comfy.

[SBB]

Chip they have ordered new heads and guides and valves and will be assembling them to my knowledge. I'm calling the service manager at 9 am for a full update. He was gone on Monday.

Guess what, your bike will be a better bike even though it was rough on you.
Keep us informed on the progress!

 

SBB

[SBB]

Lol and Chip we both had helmets on the entire trip. I even wore mine on the way home although I didn't have to once I reached Kentucky I chose to keep it on. The half helmets I purchased are very comfy.

Cool.
Next time you ride repeat this as a big bug hits that helmet.
I'm wearing a helmet because I want to, not because Chip thinks I should.

             

SBB

[Chains]

Jesse, sorry about your breakdown, been there not fun. Hopefully everything will be repaired and you will be good to go.  I am heading west on my 06 next week and it has 66,000 plus on it. Hope it holds up, I think it will but you never know. If it doesn't I guess I will be upgrading on the road.

Can't wait to here how the repair goes.

Good luck and ride safe.

Chains

[Jswerve]

Jesse, sorry about your breakdown, been there not fun. Hopefully everything will be repaired and you will be good to go.  I am heading west on my 06 next week and it has 66,000 plus on it. Hope it holds up, I think it will but you never know. If it doesn't I guess I will be upgrading on the road.

Can't wait to here how the repair goes.

Good luck and ride safe.

Chains

Thank you. I hope you get 66k more.

[1sharprdkg]

Bike not running is never good no matter how close or far away from home you may be! Glad you are ok and made it home safe. Happy you broke down close to a good dealer. It will be good as new.

[smkymtnboy]

I guess no one mentioned the new blue ones don,t have valve problems! they are a little faster also. you had a great trip!! the pictures say that!! you and the bsr arrived home safely!! a little dealer work some new plans and another adventure. you have a lot to be thankful for. oh yeah thanks for sharing all the photos!!