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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #105 on: October 18, 2007, 09:39:29 AM »

The brake lines are a one piece unit so the can't be disassembled, that would be much easier if they were threaded lines like the aftermarket parts though 8)

Shame!  But I guess it would be easy to cut and flare the solid part to put a 2" extension in, if there's room to hide it.  That would be WAY cheaper, and would hopefully allow the chrome cover to go back on properly....

Wonder if I still can find my old brake pipe tool....  ;)

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #106 on: October 18, 2007, 10:37:28 AM »

That is correct on the clamp, and also the line part number given by Jacques.  I got my clamp through a local Indy shop.  It's really a nice piece...HD would charge 50 bucks for it if they had it.

Looks like <shock, horror!> the HD part for the replacement clamp is cheaper than the Custom Chrome one!  HD Part is 56170-83TA, $12.76 from Zanotti.

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #107 on: October 18, 2007, 02:40:29 PM »

Looks like <shock, horror!> the HD part for the replacement clamp is cheaper than the Custom Chrome one!  HD Part is 56170-83TA, $12.76 from Zanotti.

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I was not sure why the clamp is required - why not just use the stock setup?  So I spoke to Robert at Wild One and he said the one-piece clamp just makes for a more solid install, esp for those who may tie down their bike using the handlebars.  But he said there can be a fitment problem with the above clamp and the radio.  He suggested using this new H-D clamp p/n 55917-08, $20.95 list.  Said it is solid steel vs cast as is the above and it is thinner and will not cause fitment problem with the radio.  So got one on order for my install.
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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #108 on: October 18, 2007, 02:50:54 PM »

I was not sure why the clamp is required - why not just use the stock setup?  So I spoke to Robert at Wild One and he said the one-piece clamp just makes for a more solid install, esp for those who may tie down their bike using the handlebars.  But he said there can be a fitment problem with the above clamp and the radio.  He suggested using this new H-D clamp p/n 55917-08, $20.95 list.  Said it is solid steel vs cast as is the above and it is thinner and will not cause fitment problem with the radio.  So got one on order for my install.

Yes, I have to say I was puzzled as to why the clamp was required!  I can't see that it would make it any more rigid using the one piece. I was just taking the word of those who installed already that the one-pice was essential.  55917-08 is $16.32 from Zanotti, so still cheaper than the Custard Chrome one.

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #109 on: October 18, 2007, 02:58:14 PM »

Yes, I have to say I was puzzled as to why the clamp was required!  I can't see that it would make it any more rigid using the one piece. I was just taking the word of those who installed already that the one-pice was essential.  55917-08 is $16.32 from Zanotti, so still cheaper than the Custard Chrome one.

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #110 on: October 18, 2007, 02:59:45 PM »

picture it like this

standrad 2 piece clamp

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if you strap to the bars the pressure goes through the clamps and could cause this

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but if you have a one piece clamp
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it strengthens the middle of the bars

not really to scale
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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #111 on: October 18, 2007, 03:09:51 PM »

this might make more senses

BLACK = bars

RED = clamps

GREEN = straps
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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #112 on: October 18, 2007, 05:47:43 PM »

this might make more senses

BLACK = bars

RED = clamps

GREEN = straps

I see what you mean there, but if it doesn't happen to the standard bars, why would it happen to these?

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #113 on: October 18, 2007, 05:53:33 PM »

Besides it being inherently stronger (more clamping surface), I think it might have to do with how the clamp fits into the area where the Wild 1's are 1" in diameter.  The stock clamps angle across the bar, and I think the angle would cause the stock clamp to catch the edge of the 1 1/4" part of the bar in that location.  It was last year when I did it, so can't remember for sure.  I just took hd-dudes advice and got the clamp...
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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #114 on: October 18, 2007, 06:04:31 PM »

Besides it being inherently stronger (more clamping surface), I think it might have to do with how the clamp fits into the area where the Wild 1's are 1" in diameter.  The stock clamps angle across the bar, and I think the angle would cause the stock clamp to catch the edge of the 1 1/4" part of the bar in that location.  It was last year when I did it, so can't remember for sure.  I just took hd-dudes advice and got the clamp...

May well be the interference factor that requires the different clamp, but the inherently stronger (though it is) has to be a red herring; the force required to cause any deflection of the area of the bars between the two clamps would be vast. That's a non-starter, I think.

But for under $20, it's worth the one-piece clamp!  :)

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #115 on: October 18, 2007, 07:54:11 PM »

W1's is very clear that the 1 piece is required. ;)

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #116 on: October 18, 2007, 08:21:32 PM »

The 08 part # is what's on the ultras according to the parts book, and shows it as one piece.
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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #117 on: October 19, 2007, 05:50:29 AM »

The 08 part # is what's on the ultras according to the parts book, and shows it as one piece.

Sounds like the best choice then - should be no clearance issues.  :)

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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #118 on: October 22, 2007, 02:12:53 PM »

Still on this subject, as I've got a set of WO575 on ebay  :orange: I'm looking at the brake line.

Has anyone actually tried the install with the standard CUSE line?  Are we sure it's too short?  Reason I ask is a few years back, I had the MoCo's "Touring Pullback Handlebars" on my CUI, and the P&Q book says for them that they bring the controls 2" closer to the rider (I hated them, so I hope the WO575 are not like them at all!), and says to use Brake Line Kit 45212-97B. That's what I had, it was long enough. It's actually a FLHR/FLHRC/FLTR part, and here's the important part - it is no longer than the OEM  part 43350-96B.  BUT - it doesn't give lengths!  So, is it 2" longer than the OEM FLHT 43349-96A, or the same length (I always thought that had 17" lower lines, whereas FLHR/FLHRC/FLTR had 16" lower lines!). If it IS 2" longer, does that mean that the part recommended in this thread - 45252-04 - which is 2" longer than the FLHR/FLHRC/FLTR  part, is actually 4" longer than the FLHT part, and I need a 4" longer top line than stock?

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I'm wondering, therefore:

 - Is the stock CUSE line really actually long enough
 - If not, can I use 45212-97B as HD say you can for their pullback bars....


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Re: Wild 1 Chubby 575 Install
« Reply #119 on: October 22, 2007, 09:52:58 PM »

Jim,

I did a trial fit of these bars and found the brake line to be about 1" short. There is no way it can be used as is. I did a trial fit to see if I would like the bars and the position they put me in before I pull the control wires and grips. The bars are great and I can’t wait to install them for good but because I am having many problems with the heated grips I put my stock bars back on until all the problems with the heated grips are resolved. I don't want HD saying because I changed the bars that the problem was caused by me. After everything is corrected when I do the final install I’m going to have a local hydraulics shop cut the top line about midpoint and crimp on fittings then join them back together with a coupling. That should give me the extra length required without needing to purchase the 45252-04 kit at $137.95 ($110.36 out of Chicago HD). As far as the one piece top clamp there has been several bikes with the wiring through the handle bars brought back to the dealers with broken bars. A friend with a Dyna Wide Glide just had a recall on his because of this. The one piece clamp is the only way to go.

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