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No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« on: April 22, 2011, 12:52:57 AM »

read this today what do you think?
"At Harley-Davidson, our hearts go out to the people of Japan and our community of riders there who have shown great resilience through a very difficult time.

These recent events have had a global impact on businesses including Harley-Davidson. In particular, these events have severely disrupted the supply of electronic components around the world, as 60% of the world’s supply of integrated circuit components are manufactured in Japan.

While Harley-Davidson motorcycles are significantly made up of parts sourced and assembled in the United States, a limited number of small components – like some electronics – are sourced through world-leading suppliers outside of the U.S. For Harley-Davidson, the events in Japan have affected its supply of electronic components that are used in the American made premium audio systems included in select Touring models. The radio components in Electra Glide, Road Glide and Street Glide Touring models will not be available for 2012 models for approximately 6 months."

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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #1 on: April 22, 2011, 01:15:37 AM »

Read where?   :nixweiss:  Was this supposed to be a Harley Davidson press release? 
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #2 on: April 22, 2011, 03:15:54 AM »

Looks like someone was screwing with the actual language of the Guidance section from the 19 April SEC quarterly filing.  Link to doc here:

http://investor.harley-davidson.com/secfiling.cfm?filingID=1193125-11-101658

Actual language here:

Guidance

In a move related to what it believes will be a modest level of supply chain interruption to the Company arising from the March 11 earthquake and tsunami in Japan, Harley-Davidson is widening full-year shipment guidance. The Company now expects to ship 215,000 to 228,000 Harley-Davidson motorcycles to dealers and distributors worldwide in 2011, compared to prior shipment guidance of 221,000 to 228,000 motorcycles.

In the second quarter of 2011, Harley-Davidson expects to ship 62,000 to 67,000 motorcycles.

Harley-Davidson and its direct suppliers source a limited number of components and subcomponents, including motorcycle electronics, through suppliers in Japan, and the Company has several of these subcomponent parts on close watch for possible shortages related to the situation there. The Company has identified a supply issue related to an electronic subcomponent used in radios for its motorcycles that could affect shipment volume, and the Company is adjusting shipment guidance accordingly. Based on currently available information, Harley-Davidson believes it has viable solutions for the radios and other subcomponents on its watch list and the Company continues to work closely with its suppliers to monitor the situation and address issues as necessary.

“We continue to assess our supply chains and as a precaution we have decided to modestly reduce the lower end of shipment guidance following the events in Japan,” said Wandell. “Our hearts go out to all the people of Japan, including our community of riders there. We are thankful for the safety of our employees and dealers in Japan and commend them for their tremendous resilience through this difficult period.”

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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #3 on: April 22, 2011, 05:38:27 AM »

Will the display glow green?
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #4 on: April 22, 2011, 06:25:35 AM »

Just did survey and they asked if they sent out radio but display was not there would it bother you.
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #5 on: April 22, 2011, 07:20:50 AM »

Radio's are not the only product from Japan that are not being shipped out

Yamaha outboards and Suzuki outboards are back ordered till September for loose motors

Mercury Marine which is in Fond du Lac Wisconsin has plenty of motors but the electronics are produced in Japan. They are doing inventory now to check on the allotments of loose motors.

I know about a dozen people that have sold their motors from their boats and did not expect the Sept wait for new ones
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #6 on: April 22, 2011, 07:24:33 AM »

Read where?   :nixweiss:  Was this supposed to be a Harley Davidson press release? 

Read it in the "H-D Advisory Panel" survey this a.m.
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #7 on: April 22, 2011, 08:26:48 AM »

 Harley-Davidson Advisory Panel Survey is where I read this who knows if it is true.
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #8 on: April 22, 2011, 09:19:40 AM »

I know about a dozen people that have sold their motors from their boats and did not expect the Sept wait for new ones

Anyone we know  :huepfenjump3:
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #9 on: April 22, 2011, 10:26:19 AM »

 
Guess I wont worry about getting a 2012, either!  ::)
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #10 on: April 22, 2011, 10:52:54 AM »

Will the display glow green?

Owww.. what a great option for the Kryptos!
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #11 on: April 22, 2011, 01:24:15 PM »


Considering the fact that people have been riding motorcycles without radio's for over a century now, I don't see what the big deal is.  Maybe if Harley converts the hole in the fairing to a fresh air duct they can jack the price up and sell it as a new feature?

BTW, what about the other Japanese stuff on the bikes, like all the front forks?

BTW #2, I figure the Chinese are probably already tooling up to pirate the electronics, if they don't already do so.  So this isn't likely to be a big deal.


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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #12 on: April 22, 2011, 01:43:01 PM »

Will the display glow green?
Yes and they will not need any lights as well since the bike will give off a glow, it will be visable in the dark.
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #13 on: April 22, 2011, 01:43:41 PM »

Harley-Davidson Advisory Panel Survey is where I read this who knows if it is true.

It basically asked if you bought a 2012 and had no display for 6 months was it worth a $500 gift card.

I said know so it then asked if their GPS worth $900 would sweeten the deal.

I told them now was a good time to get another radio supplier as HK radios/sound systems are junk whether they are in HD or a BMW..    

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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #14 on: April 22, 2011, 01:45:19 PM »

Should be an opportunity for an American manufacturer to step in.
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #15 on: April 22, 2011, 02:15:32 PM »

Should be an opportunity for an American manufacturer to step in.

I don't think there is an American manufacturer that makes a radio out of exclusively American-made parts...and if there was, we couldn't afford it.  It would be too expensive because of being totally made here.

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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #16 on: April 22, 2011, 06:07:08 PM »

Milwaukee has come up with a solution, and it's again painted black!!  :2vrolijk_21: :bananarock:
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #17 on: April 22, 2011, 06:30:01 PM »

We can still build American (home) made radios.  Anyone else ever build crystal radios when they were young?
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« Reply #18 on: April 22, 2011, 07:10:30 PM »

Anyone we know  :huepfenjump3:

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« Reply #19 on: April 22, 2011, 07:12:34 PM »

Should be an opportunity for an American manufacturer to step in.

That will never happen

Americans can not produce a chitty product for less money than foreign countries can
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« Reply #20 on: April 22, 2011, 07:24:24 PM »

We can still build American (home) made radios.  Anyone else ever build crystal radios when they were young?
Oh yeah!  What a blast.....moving that little wire all around on the crystal to tune it in   :huepfenlol2:.it's a shame that we have such a high unemployment rate, yet don't produce one radio.  :-[ spyder
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #21 on: April 22, 2011, 09:08:25 PM »

What about the GPS box?  I have to check with the dealer tomorrow since I paid for one 13 days ago and no call.................could just be that the parts guy didn't call and its just sitting on the shelf.  As if that has ever happen-duh
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #22 on: April 23, 2011, 06:54:26 AM »

Are there any than can do such a thing? :nixweiss:    Sure would be nice to quit relying on other countries to do what we should be doing for ourselves anyway.  :-\
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #23 on: April 23, 2011, 07:00:54 AM »

I don't think there is an American manufacturer that makes a radio out of exclusively American-made parts...and if there was, we couldn't afford it.  It would be too expensive because of being totally made here.

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Remember these guys?  http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Pages/Home.aspx# Don't know if they still are, but boy howdy did they ever make some good components back when.

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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #24 on: April 23, 2011, 09:32:37 AM »

I don't think there is an American manufacturer that makes a radio out of exclusively American-made parts...and if there was, we couldn't afford it.  It would be too expensive because of being totally made here.

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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2011, 10:34:31 AM »

We can still build American (home) made radios.  Anyone else ever build crystal radios when they were young?

Yea,,, i remember taking a diode, old earphones and using our body as an antenna.... we could pick up the one and only station in town...   :2vrolijk_21:
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2011, 10:02:20 PM »

Remember these guys?  http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Pages/Home.aspx# Don't know if they still are, but boy howdy did they ever make some good components back when.


Macintosh were the best audio amplifiers made, bar none, but whoooooeeee, were they expensive!!!  Then Carver came along and made and outstanding product, totally American made, but again, cost you an arm and a leg to buy.  American's can't make reasonably priced goods...hence that's why all of the major companies outsource to other countries...labor rates are much cheaper, but so unfortunately, is the quality...
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2011, 10:16:33 PM »

Remember these guys?  http://www.mcintoshlabs.com/us/Pages/Home.aspx# Don't know if they still are, but boy howdy did they ever make some good components back when.




I own several pieces of McIntosh equipment (very nice) but that Company has been owned by Japanese companies for the last 21 years.
Clarion for 13 years and now Marantz/Denon since 2003

Nice try though

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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2011, 10:23:57 PM »



I own several pieces of McIntosh equipment (very nice) but that Company has been owned by Japanese companies for the last 21 years.
Clarion for 13 years and now Marantz/Denon since 2003

Nice try though

Didn't know about that, but then again, I haven't followed that.  The McIntoshes that I'm remembering were in the 70's and 80's.  Great stuff...always wanted them, but couldn't afford them.  Phase Linear was another great brand in the 70's.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2011, 10:39:51 PM »

Didn't know about that, but then again, I haven't followed that.  The McIntoshes that I'm remembering were in the 70's and 80's.  Great stuff...always wanted them, but couldn't afford them.  Phase Linear was another great brand in the 70's.
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Phase Linear was an inexpensive piece compared to McIntosh, Mark Levinson, Audio research, and Luxman.
High end mainstream stuff was Phase, SAE, Yamaha and higher end was NAD, Nakamichi, Conrad Johnson and Bryston.

how about a used Linn Sondek CD player for $7500.00


http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1307814172&/Linn-Sondek-CD12-


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In a previous life I sold that equipment and collected equipment, a bigger disease than motorcycles.
Phase Linear was an inexpensive piece compared to McIntosh, Mark Levinson, Audio research, and Luxman.
High end mainstream stuff was Phase, SAE, Yamaha and higher end was NAD, Nakamichi, Conrad Johnson and Bryston.

how about a used Linn Sondek CD player for $7500.00


http://www.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/cls.pl?dgtlplay&1307814172&/Linn-Sondek-CD12-


Anyone out there remember Heathkit?

 


Remember the Altec-Lansing A7 Voice of the Theater Speakers?  I remember Heathkit very well. :)

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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2011, 11:13:58 PM »

Remember the Altec-Lansing A7 Voice of the Theater Speakers?  I remember Heathkit very well. :)

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I certainly do remember them, Altec was big into Horns like Klipsch
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2011, 03:56:58 AM »


In a previous life I sold that equipment and collected equipment, a bigger disease than motorcycles.
 


Oh no!  I got out of the audio disease before I hit that stage -- you know where you spend in one component what you spent on your last setup.  Was just about to build out a new room using that type of equipment, when life changed up a bit.

Then I switched to the current disease we talk about here.

Recently started to think about building out that room again, and I run into this thread.  Not a good sign.  I guess there will be potentially two areas competing for what's left in my wallet.  :'(
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2011, 10:55:33 AM »

The way i see it, there is a big problem getting the audio disease which warrants spending that kind of money on that high end stuff..  Our ears are too shot to appreciate any of that good stuf..... For me anyway,, i'll stick with Radio Shack   :D
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2011, 12:31:21 PM »

I'm switching mine out for a Philco AM/8Track. I miss dials. Someone make me an offer on the HK.
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« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2011, 02:05:32 PM »

I'm switching mine out for a Philco AM/8Track. I miss dials. Someone make me an offer on the HK.
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2011, 05:27:45 PM »

The way i see it, there is a big problem getting the audio disease which warrants spending that kind of money on that high end stuff..  Our ears are too shot to appreciate any of that good stuf..... For me anyway,, i'll stick with Radio Shack   :D


you hit the nail on the head.........having a system that can reproduce accurate signals to 20K and only barely hear to 10K doesn't make much sense.

I still have all of my goods stuff, but listen more often to my loud stuff (DJ equipment), at being able to knock out 2000 watts / channel it may not be the best but it is sure loud enough and I can hear it......................
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2011, 06:03:18 PM »



you hit the nail on the head.........having a system that can reproduce accurate signals to 20K and only barely hear to 10K doesn't make much sense.

I still have all of my goods stuff, but listen more often to my loud stuff (DJ equipment), at being able to knock out 2000 watts / channel it may not be the best but it is sure loud enough and I can hear it......................

Yeah, that's the ticket!  Or at least 'feel' it...... 8).. har.  spyder
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #38 on: April 24, 2011, 08:11:06 PM »

I am sure I am not the only one on the HD advisory panel and this has already been posted above, but if not. The survey this month was partly on this radio item. Toward the end it listed possible choices of a $500 gift card and radio being dealer installed when available then next deal was a ZUMO with XM ($(900 value, there words). Still no radio and no mention of how you were to listen to the XM on the ZUMO but I guess they are thinking ahead.
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Re: No radio in 2012 bikes for first 6 months
« Reply #39 on: April 24, 2011, 08:36:17 PM »

While Harley-Davidson motorcycles are significantly made up of parts sourced and assembled in the United States, a limited number of small components – like some electronics – are sourced through world-leading suppliers outside of the U.S. For Harley-Davidson


Heck, I'm of the mindset that most of the components comprised of my bike are made in Japan!
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