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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #105 on: December 18, 2015, 11:46:53 AM »
The system is fixed meaning that it goes back to clutch stack height. If the stack is short ( manufactures tolerances ) then it takes longer to engage.. Drop in a Barnett + 1 clutch pack it will be the easiest solution. I have delt with it and you are dealing with mass produced parts..  :nixweiss:  I agree you should not have to deal with it. But the clutch is a wear item and HD will not warranty.. We fought to get one that had the issue with master that burned up and they where not happy about covering it .. 
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #106 on: December 18, 2015, 11:59:39 AM »
I wonder about getting a small amount machined off the roller in the clutch lever......
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #107 on: December 21, 2015, 11:39:45 AM »
GMR-PERFORMANCE,

Thank you for your post!
You're right, I shouldn't have to deal with it .... so I'll fix it .......
Any guidance on what I should order?
If I go +1, should I replace the spring with a heavier one? What about the clutch retaining ring?
Looks like Barnett has several different options.
Any experienced help will be greatly appreciated. I ride 2 up 50% of the time. I will wear the stock clutch out in no time and I just don't want to ride it the way it is any longer.
If this fixes the problem, I'll gladly pay. Love the bike, hate the clutch!
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #108 on: December 21, 2015, 12:55:28 PM »
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #109 on: December 21, 2015, 01:07:00 PM »
Eqcons,

I believe it is. I just couldn't verify that it was +1.
Looks like it is but I am not positive. Not sure how many are stock.
Thanks for the link!
Are there other things I should do while in there to save time and money?
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #110 on: December 21, 2015, 01:12:05 PM »
Quote from: FullBagger on December 21, 2015, 01:07:00 PM
Eqcons,

I believe it is. I just couldn't verify that it was +1.
Looks like it is but I am not positive. Not sure how many are stock.
Thanks for the link!
Are there other things I should do while in there to save time and money?

If that's the kit, I'd just do that to see if it solves the problem.  If you do anything else at the same time, you won't know which was the cure (assuming this IS the cure).  If it fixes it for you, I'm in for one of these as well, so please go ahead and be the tester!  :apple:
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #111 on: December 21, 2015, 01:17:38 PM »
Just call me at the shop easier to explain it over the phone.
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #112 on: December 21, 2015, 03:14:21 PM »
Should change my forum name to "Guinea Pig"  :2vrolijk_21:
I have a little more study to do. There seem to be several different options and not sure which to try. I'll figure it out and give it a shot after the new year.
Up for just about anything at this point.
One thing seems certain, the stock clutch is not going to last riding 2 up as much as I do. The first one was in bad shape after 7000 miles. I'll have to do something.
It may be a little while but I will post back what I find.

Thanks for your help GMR-PERFORMANCE!
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #113 on: December 21, 2015, 03:17:57 PM »
Sure thing . Glad I was able to help ..
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #114 on: December 22, 2015, 04:36:10 AM »
Looking forward to hearing your continuing saga, FB. Just like you, I love my bike - best one I've ever had - but struggling to live with that clutch!
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #115 on: December 23, 2015, 02:42:16 PM »
I've been following along with this topic for a while and I'm also very interested in what you folks figure out. My situation is a little different in that my bike is not a Rushmore model which is the clutch that it seems you people are having issues with. I recently did some major upgrades to my 2011 SESG. (113 kit and such) While it was apart I replaced the clutch with the SE friction disc set (part # 37980-10) and installed the SE variable pressure clutch kit (part # 37000121). I'm really happy with the results of my build thanks to all the help I received from this site, especially Steve at GMR. Anyway, MY clutch engagement point like yours is about 90% out now with barely pulling it in at all to release it. That really sucks. It affects your self confidence taking off in traffic and so on. My bike had close to 30,000 miles on it with the original clutch which was still working well but obviously showing some wear. When, after I tried to suck it up and get use to it, I took it back to my tech. His answer was the typical HD answer that there was nothing wrong with the parts OR the installation. He did offer to put my old clutch back in at no labor charge, just the cost of fluid and a gasket to make me happy stating that "a lot of the new bikes have a similar issue and Harley has no fix for it other than verifying that the master cylinder and all parts are working properly.
SO anyway, obviously I am VERY interested in whatever The FIX is for this issue.

Thanks in advance for "the answer" to our issue!
Kelly
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #116 on: December 23, 2015, 03:07:52 PM »
Hi Rayson56,

It really does suck, doesn't it!
When it's that far out, it does changes your confidence level. It's like learning the clutch all over again. I can deal with different engagement points on different bikes but not to the extreme mine is. Let my son ride it, he won't ride it again until it's "fixed". Even with my warnings, he damn near dropped it and it scared him.
I will be ordering the clutch pack on January 4th, Barnett is closed until then. Otherwise I would have ordered it already.
"Eqcons" was able to find the kit for me on Amazon but just want to call Barnett to make sure before I purchase.
The Saturday after I receive the pack, I will install it. Ohio weather may not allow for a test ride but as soon as I can report back, I will.

I have worked on cars but this will be my first wrenching on a bike clutch. At least I won't have to lay under my bike, on the concrete floor, to work on the trans!
Any words of wisdom and experience are welcome.

John

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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #117 on: December 23, 2015, 06:46:38 PM »
I've also been following this saga.  A riding buddy switched his '11 FLTRUSE from the stock clutch to the Barnett Scorpion at about 34,000 miles.  His clutch lever engagement went from a "normal" point (about half-way out) to the 90% point as described in this thread.  He bled the clutch completely, but it hasn't changed the engagement point.  Anybody know a fix?
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #118 on: December 23, 2015, 11:45:59 PM »
Well...good luck. Mine went from about 70% (normal for late model hydraulic) to roughly 90%. Not acceptable. Definately need THE FIX if it's available. I'll be watching.

Merry Christmas everyone!!!
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Re: Clutch engages when lever is 90% extended .... way too late.
« Reply #119 on: December 28, 2015, 12:41:48 PM »
Para Bellum,

Not yet.
Found the +1 part number but Barnett does not list it for my model under their "Find Products For Your Bike". Should know more on the 4th.
Glad you found this thread and I hope the +1 fixes my problem so others can get relief.

By the way .....  love the name!
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