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[Hoist!]

Harry, I just reread this thread for the upteenth time. Is this what you were talking about on my bike when we were in Daytona? If so, what steps should I take? The bike is at the dealer today. Should they be notified about the noise problem for documentation purposes in case there is a problem in the future? And no I'm not talking about the rev-limiter noise! 
If this is only a small wearing problem, wouldn't it 'wear' itself out? I mean, after time wouldn't the pistons wear to a point were the noise was eliminated? Thanks.

AJ, you don't want your cylinder walls to "wear-out" your pistons! The rings make contact with the cylinder walls, not the pistons. If your piston "wears" itself out, you got problems! Hoist!

[ESJ JESTER]

Harry, I just reread this thread for the upteenth time. Is this what you were talking about on my bike when we were in Daytona? If so, what steps should I take? The bike is at the dealer today. Should they be notified about the noise problem for documentation purposes in case there is a problem in the future? And no I'm not talking about the rev-limiter noise! 
If this is only a small wearing problem, wouldn't it 'wear' itself out? I mean, after time wouldn't the pistons wear to a point were the noise was eliminated? Thanks.

Hey AJ  Just for grins  what month was that cherry molester....I mean B/O  jester  made??  I believe you referenced the valve retainer wearing the rocker box down enough to the noise free part. If so facto  that the boxes were changed mid production   maybe they could be  WARRENTEED for your noise?   Was that the noise your talking about?   What are they wackin 350 for in the 5k?

[hard10]

AJ, you don't want your cylinder walls to "wear-out" your pistons! The rings make contact with the cylinder walls, not the pistons. If your piston "wears" itself out, you got problems! Hoist!

OK, so what is the solution?

[Hoist!]

OK, so what is the solution?

There's no way you're pistons are hitting anything, you'd know it. Your noise is elsewhere. You'd be tearing that motor up if your pistons are hitting something! An engine is built to specified clearances. You don't want an engine clearancing itself. The solution is to find the noise and fix it, if it's not a normal operating noise. If your engine's making noise that sounds abnormal, and your bikes in for Service, find out what it is and make them fix it. You didn't blow away that 2 yr w.....ty did ya? Hoist!

[ESJ JESTER]

OK, so what is the solution?

   Was it "pinging" on hard throttle?  that could  cause some piston slap...  or a ticking that gradually got more pronounced?    I am sure if UnBalaNceD heard it  your answer is forthcoming. 

[hard10]

There's no way you're pistons are hitting anything, you'd know it. Your noise is elsewhere. You'd be tearing that motor up if your pistons are hitting something! An engine is built to specified clearances. You don't want an engine clearancing itself. The solution is to find the noise and fix it, if it's not a normal operating noise. If your engine's making noise that sounds abnormal, and your bikes in for Service, find out what it is and make them fix it. You didn't blow away that 2 yr w.....ty did ya? Hoist!

You know I wouldn't do ANYthing to jeopardize that.

   Was it "pinging" on hard throttle?  that could  cause some piston slap...  or a ticking that gradually got more pronounced?    I am sure if UnBalaNceD heard it  your answer is forthcoming. 

And Gene, you know dam well I didn't hear anything. It sounded normal to me but Harry said he heard something. That's why he had me put my boot on the pipe to see if it was rattling.

[hard10]

Hey AJ  Just for grins  what month was that cherry molester....I mean B/O  jester  made??  I believe you referenced the valve retainer wearing the rocker box down enough to the noise free part. If so facto  that the boxes were changed mid production   maybe they could be  WARRENTEED for your noise?   Was that the noise your talking about?   What are they wackin 350 for in the 5k?

The Cherry Molester ( ) should have a build date of 10/15/06. The $350 is for an oil change. I'm using my own Amsoil so they should knock something off that. Other than the OC, I guess they'll wash it also.

[ESJ JESTER]

Ahhhhhh   I SEE now said the BLIND man to his DEAF wife while watching a WING LESS  bird in flight...  The ole boot on the pipe tick finding ploy!!!       nitrous  oxide     a couple of puffs and no more ticky 

[Unbalanced]

  Was it "pinging" on hard throttle?  that could  cause some piston slap...  or a ticking that gradually got more pronounced?    I am sure if UnBalaNceD heard it  your answer is forthcoming.

It sounded more like there was a clearancing issue on the rockerbox / spring / collars.

[Unbalanced]

As to the ole boot on the pipe trick.  It was to try and see if the pipe was the rattling noise and eliminate it as a possible suspect.   AJ was pre-instructed though to put a towel or cloth down so that he would not leave marks on the pipe

[StreetDog]

Unbalanced, thanks for the reply. I considered the SE 50mm throttlebody but I figured the air fuel mixture could be increased by a simple adjustment on the dyno with the SERT. But I don't know for sure. Is this right? And you mentioned the different head gasket too, would this up the compression more as well?

[Unbalanced]

Kingdog,

The throttlebody gives you more air and the possibility for more fuel as the injectors are larger.    If the heads have been modified they should accommodate the air that comes on the Screaming Eagle Throttle body

Something to consider is that the FLHX came with the 50mm throttle body just the smaller injector.   On the 110's they came with a 46mm throttle body and the SEEGS came with a 43mm.   

With the addition of the 50mm Throttlebody you can check with Harley, but I believe the spray is 4.89 gm/sec.   So if you have some headwork done I would suspect you to see a gain in the 400 dollar expenditure.

The thinner head gasket if all things left alone would increase compression slightly but also has the effect of compacting the squish area for better performance.    If the head builder was going to deck your heads ie take something off the face that touches the gasket and faces the cylinder he could just incorporate if you so desired that he didnt add any extra compression beyond what was already going ot be done there by say only taking off .038 instead of lets call it .040.    While it is a minor compression addition, it can give you benefits and it would not be something I would be concerned with at all.

[SBB]

So everyone is hanging on Harry's opinion on how to make horsepower.

That's a lot of responsibility considering the power coming out of his 110.

Wonder if he's run any good 120's lately?

Wonder if that story will be told?

This is the internet! Beware of the info presented because it's not all true.
 

[Unbalanced]

Chip untie the panties and get over what ever it is.

That story has been told.   Reading is fundamental and comprehension even more so.   To recap for you and save you the searches I lost to Hubbard and also to Hogasm, so that means what they blew past me at 105 miles an hour, again so what.   I had a lot of fun riding with them and twisting the throttle with friends.

Wow a lot of responsibility answering questions just because my 110 isnt 140 hp / tq.   Great guidelines you have for helping people Chip.   People would be crazy not to take anything said here and reverify it with others they trust, so again when you find that what I post to help people incorrect speak up Chip and help out or add good info to the mix or take it off line with me.

People are asking for help and when you find that the information is wrong please correct it or add your take to it.   It is the internet.   I am quite sure that people on this site would correct any information that is wrong as that is the type of crowd this is and I doubt it would go incorrect for very long around here.

Just like when you told hogasm that I had no right to tell him to go to a smaller throttlebody and when he did he made more power and your man T-Man even backed up the choice.   What cause my bike isn't faster than his I shouldn't try and help a friend out... jeesh there is another great reason not to help someone cause I haven't passed them.

I know your 120 is faster than my ultra so what does that prove you spent more money paying someone to work on the engine big deal ....   That is good for you and it proves what nothing other than you paid a named guy to work on your bike.   


   

[StreetDog]

Silver-Black, if you don't agree with the mild mods, tell me what your verion is about the heads,cams,ect. What works and what don't.