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[Elvis]

I have a couple of questions about Freedom Pipes.

[PCC]

Dan:

I don't think that Freedom has mapped a 103 where a Stage I download was already installed. i know that Brad has done many 95" setups that way. It indeed is very different from the stock ECU map. Your best bet is to call him direct 775-848-8600. As far as dyno charts go, mine is in the dyno thread, way back around March 2004 but I have headwork and different cams. Again, ask Brad about some of the others, he's done. he'll send you some charts. As far as results, virtually every 103 with Freedom Pipes, S/E air cleaner and PCIII USB mapped by him runs around 103HP and 104TQ, and for the skeptics out therre, this is no bullchit, I've known these guys through 30 years of racing and performance work. Basically, I'd bet the farm that if some other tuner isn't getting these numbers, then he's just not as good. Good luck with you bike whichever way you go.

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[PCC]

I've just been looking at some of the other posts in the thread about the Freedom Pipes and maybe I can clear up a little confusion.

They are different  from the Rinehart's in a couple of ways. Initially these pipes were modified from a set of regular Rinehart's to fit a supercharged touring bike. The front cylinder header pipe is slightly longer because it was initially made to clear the Magnacharger, which is also the reason the BILLET (and onlt the BILLET) brake pedal needs to be clearanced.

Hope that helps some .

The baffles ARE NOT BUB baffles. Brad Yuill designed and has BUB manufacture these baffles for Freedom Pipes only. They are the reason that these pipes work just a little bit better than Rinehart's on stock or semi stock motorcycles

[WaSEEG]

Just got off the phone with Mark at Freedom.  He indicated he had talked with Loose_Goose and Loose was happy with his Freedom Pipes and PC map.  Loose are you happy? I asked him several questions about the map, pipes and the air filter and decided to order the "package".  When I expressed reservations about having to tweak the pipe for the brake to fit (or vice versa)  he agreed to my proposal to obtain a HD billet brake lever, mill it where needed and send it to me.  I get to install the milled lever and return my stock lever to be milled for the next guy.  I hope this package works as well as eveyone here say it does.  And, by the way, he did not recommend "fine tuning " their custom map

[mr_magoo]

You will be very happy,  besides how many people do you deal with that would buy the lever and let you exchange it like that?

[Loose_Goose]

I've got my dyno sheet right here.  Stock with high flow aircleaner was 85.2 hp and 88 torq.  Untouched from Freedom was 91.6 hp and 94.8 torq.   Fine tuned ended up at 94.5 hp and 97.5 torq.  I haven't rode the bike yet, but I'm sure I'll be happy.  Just not the numbers I was told I would get.  

[hd2003-se2005]

Mr. Goose

What #s were you told you would get?

[Loose_Goose]

I was told 104 hp and 103 torq.

[apitts]

Can anyone tell me who has the best price on Power Commanders? I have included a pic of my little friend.

[the O`Fender]

apitts you need to adjust the date stamp on your camera!!!

[JCZ]

I've got my dyno sheet right here.

[JCZ]

Good answer JCZ!

My question now is???

If the Goose gets another dyno reading that's very close or the same then is the answer
#1, #2, or

[hd2003-se2005]

****I think that several of them that got the Freedom set up have had theirs dynoed and all came in right about the same**** (PCC and Magoo what did you guys come up with?)  I'm not sure why Loose Goose would be so much different than the others.

My point exactly JCZ!

[mr_magoo]

Think my #'s where 103hp and 105tq

[hd2003-se2005]

magoo
Your my hero!

I hadn't forgot about that 138mph top speed.  [smiley=bigok.gif]