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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #90 on: January 07, 2009, 06:29:02 PM »
Quote from: Hoist! on January 07, 2009, 03:23:39 PM
Don't let Tim inTIMidate ya with those novel length posts there Mikey! ::) ;D ;D ;D

::) ;D ;D ;D

J/K Tim! :2vrolijk_21:

But from the list in your signature, you should be happy with that. That is a proven on the street good combo! Like Tim said, shoot for the CR he suggested. ;)

Thanks !!

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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #91 on: January 07, 2009, 06:32:08 PM »
Quote from: RedFXR2 on January 07, 2009, 03:37:44 PM
Mikey:  I did much the same thing.  Read the books, magazine articles, talkied to HD buffs and techs, settled on a menu, and acquired parts over several months from multiple sources.

You've got a very good list of stuff to be installed. 
Thank You

No point in obsessing now over slight differences in specs and questioning your choices.
Nope, can't do that now. Before I got the parts was the time for that, and I spent it there   :2vrolijk_21:

 I'm completely confident you'll be as pleased as I was. 
Now I'm liking that thinking   WOOOOO HOOOO

I still remember....The first few times I rode mine with the new build, break-in rules applicable so I was gentle, I could already tell that it wanted to take off.  Far better throttle response.  It was like a whole new bike.  A bit louder, too, for better or worse.  Trust me, you're going to love it.

I'm PUMPED ...... I know it's gonna be difficult to do the 'break in' miles, but I'll do em ......... after that, I'm riding her like I stole her    LOL
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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #92 on: January 07, 2009, 06:57:53 PM »
Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 07, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
Break in.....BREAK IN.........DID SOMEONE SAY BREAK IN.....LOL......ok ok ok ok ok BREAK IN....

Ok now we need some discussion about break in.....how many ways are there to break in one's engine.....LOL


The only answer that matters.....is:

THE RIGHT WAY!!!

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Oh boy, this I gotta see!!! ::) ;D ;D ;D ;) :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #93 on: January 07, 2009, 07:08:14 PM »
Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 07, 2009, 04:14:31 PM

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My point is I am not doing the kind of riding where you just pull the throttle and go down a highway at 90-95 mph.....
nor am I, all the time .... I do this at times on long trips, but it is NOT my preferred road of travel

I would prefer to ride at 65 mph going down a country road....and relax or ride in the mountains where you are always negotiating the next curve and
me too !

what your bike will do without having to down shift then up shift then down shift......
to me, this is a 'part' of the experience of riding the bike .... cranking it  :D
I don't want to spend the whole day shifting, but I don't mind it when the geography calls for it !

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This THREAD is about Mikey's build....so let me get back on track here......my point is that.....I am not sure where the compression should be on our evo engines precisely as I am still learning about it.......but I can tell you this....I won't be taking the advice of a builder who likes building engines that turn their cams on at 3500 rpms and higher....it's not the kind of riding I like to do.....
me either, and that's not where the W6 comes on either

Remember in the mountains it's about quick torque and low end torque....pulling you up...without having to down shift constantly....or needing to increase one's RPMS to a point that one is now in another problematic situation where one finds themselves in the wrong gear with too much upper end power and you are missing a curve......makes sense right?
oh, I don't know ........ lots of different ways to ride a motorcycle, even an FXR.  Some days I ride one way, other days I ride other ways. Some days I shift and twist the throttle A LOT, other days, I'm more laid back.

So my point, know your physical characteristics, know what you really want your engine to perform for you and why, know your riding enviornment and how you plan to ride the bike in terms of travel.....
I think I've got that figured out  :D  :2vrolijk_21:

So basically right now I am simply mulling over what my knowledge is of my RKC with a TWIN CAM engine and how it should apply to a lighter touring FXR with an evo engine.....

But Mike, when you say "That is a proven on the street good combo!" that sounds good but really your statement doesn't mean anything to me.....whether it's good or not is TOTALLY important but whether it's personally good for a particular riding style would more accurately be important....  <~~~This is where I am coming from.....
I think that's what he meant too, proven for a given type of riding style

Here is my point the moment you walk into any independent mechanic's garage and you say I want a powerful engine or I want a torque engine....what would you recommend.....both times I have asked that question all I received was exactly what that builder likes to build but their responses have nothing to do with how I like my bike to perform.....and so when one asks another's opinion the doors WILL open....the question one has to ask themselves is whether you feel it was worth your money or not....BUTTTTTTTT if you don't know yourself well enough or what you really like from your bike....you are in another's world of enjoyment.....and in the end perhaps it matches your "fun" or perhaps it won't.....
We see, and agree with your point ..... as far as my build is concerened, I didn't go ask no builder to build it for me. I've been researching information, seeking out knowledge about what components will provide what I believe I want my bike to perform like. I further belive that I've selected as good a package to accomplish what I want as best that I can.  The end results will be the poof in the pudding.

Ok ok ok ok ok....Joe Pesci   :beatdeadhorse:  lol I am finished.....lol
you sure  LOL LOL

Back to Mikey's Build......

Yeah Mikey Build, Yeah Mikey Build, Yeah Mikey Build.....lol 
GIDDY UP !!!!!!!!!

Regards,

Tim
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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #94 on: January 07, 2009, 07:12:07 PM »
Quote from: fxr4mikey on January 07, 2009, 07:08:14 PM

Ok ok ok ok ok....Joe Pesci   :beatdeadhorse:  lol I am finished.....lol
you sure  LOL LOL


Back to Mikey's Build......

Yeah Mikey Build, Yeah Mikey Build, Yeah Mikey Build.....lol
GIDDY UP !!!!!!!!!

Regards,

Tim


HeHe!!! Now that's some funny chit right there Mikey! ;D ;D ;D :2vrolijk_21:

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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #95 on: January 08, 2009, 06:59:55 AM »
Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 07, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
Break in.....BREAK IN.........DID SOMEONE SAY BREAK IN.....LOL......ok ok ok ok ok BREAK IN....

Ok now we need some discussion about break in.....how many ways are there to break in one's engine.....LOL

OK, I'll open this can of worms.  When I referred to break-in, I was referring to a used engine with new heads, piston rings, lifters and cam/cam bearing installed, not quite a whole new motor--no bottom end involved.  The only break-in I had in mind was seating the new rings.  Yes, there are numerous philosophies on new rings, from a few hundred miles of generally low, but varied RPM's to a couple of 'redline and hold it for a few seconds', done two or three times.  All I know from my days of British sports cars and now bikes is that I've used the 'low RPM-varied for a while' method repeatedly with good results so that's what I did.  Maybe there are other methods that also work well.

So when my motor was back together, I rode it gently for about 200 miles, varying the RPM's but keeping them below 3000, changed the oil again and it was back to normal.  I have near zero oil consumption about 6000 miles later so I'd say it worked out fine.
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« Reply #96 on: January 08, 2009, 07:41:06 AM »
Quote from: RedFXR2 on January 08, 2009, 06:59:55 AM
OK, I'll open this can of worms.  When I referred to break-in, I was referring to a used engine with new heads, piston rings, lifters and cam/cam bearing installed, not quite a whole new motor--no bottom end involved.  The only break-in I had in mind was seating the new rings.  Yes, there are numerous philosophies on new rings, from a few hundred miles of generally low, but varied RPM's to a couple of 'redline and hold it for a few seconds', done two or three times.  All I know from my days of British sports cars and now bikes is that I've used the 'low RPM-varied for a while' method repeatedly with good results so that's what I did.  Maybe there are other methods that also work well.

So when my motor was back together, I rode it gently for about 200 miles, varying the RPM's but keeping them below 3000, changed the oil again and it was back to normal.  I have near zero oil consumption about 6000 miles later so I'd say it worked out fine.

Pretty much do the same Mike, but after I bring the revs up, I then will back off fully under load. Up and down. My understanding is that backing off fully under load helps seat the rings. Just keep repeating for a coupla hundred, then do it again at 3500 til 500 miles. Then do my WFO's. Then I'm good to go on a top end breakin! ;)

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« Reply #97 on: January 08, 2009, 08:38:53 AM »
Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 07, 2009, 06:45:54 PM
Break in.....BREAK IN.........DID SOMEONE SAY BREAK IN.....LOL......ok ok ok ok ok BREAK IN....

Ok now we need some discussion about break in.....how many ways are there to break in one's engine.....LOL


The only answer that matters.....is:

THE RIGHT WAY!!!

 :2vrolijk_21:

Regards,

Tim

Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 08, 2009, 08:32:17 AM
#1 So when my motor was back together, I rode it gently for about 200 miles, varying the RPM's but keeping them below 3000, changed the oil again and it was back to normal.  I have near zero oil consumption about 6000 miles later so I'd say it worked out fine.

#1a Pretty much do the same, but after I bring the revs up, I then will back off fully under load. Up and down. My understanding is that backing off fully under load helps seat the rings. Just keep repeating for a coupla hundred, then do it again at 3500 til 500 miles. Then do my WFO's. Then I'm good to go on a top end breakin!

So breakin procedures begin.......oh and I have no pony in this race.....lol.....nor any opinions.....lol

Regards,

Tim


HeHe!!! So that's it? :zwtf: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: ;D ;)

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« Reply #98 on: January 08, 2009, 09:26:21 AM »
Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 08, 2009, 08:32:17 AM
#1 So when my motor was back together, I rode it gently for about 200 miles, varying the RPM's but keeping them below 3000, changed the oil again and it was back to normal.  I have near zero oil consumption about 6000 miles later so I'd say it worked out fine.

#1a Pretty much do the same, but after I bring the revs up, I then will back off fully under load. Up and down. My understanding is that backing off fully under load helps seat the rings. Just keep repeating for a coupla hundred, then do it again at 3500 til 500 miles. Then do my WFO's. Then I'm good to go on a top end breakin!

So breakin procedures begin.......oh and I have no pony in this race.....lol.....nor any opinions.....lol

Regards,

Tim

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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #99 on: January 08, 2009, 10:19:45 AM »
Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 08, 2009, 08:32:17 AM

So breakin procedures begin.......oh and I have no pony in this race.....lol.....nor any opinions.....lol


There must not be an emoticon for "tongue firmly implanted in cheek".

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« Reply #100 on: January 08, 2009, 10:22:58 AM »
Quote from: RedFXR2 on January 08, 2009, 10:19:45 AM
There must not be an emoticon for "tongue firmly implanted in cheek".

 :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

Quote from: elvislee on January 08, 2009, 09:26:21 AM
  :huh2:    :vrolijk27:         :zroflmao:    Note to self;.........................mark this day on my calendar    ;D

Quote from: fxr4mikey on January 07, 2009, 07:08:14 PM

Ok ok ok ok ok....Joe Pesci   :beatdeadhorse:  lol I am finished.....lol
you sure  LOL LOL

HeHeHe!!! You guys make a GREAT Tag Team!!! ;D :2vrolijk_21:

I almost feel bad for The InTIMidator!!! :( :( :(


































NOT!!! :D :D :D :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3:

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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #101 on: January 08, 2009, 10:26:44 AM »
Quote from: Hoist! on January 08, 2009, 10:22:58 AM

I almost feel bad for The InTIMidator!!! :( :( :(

Nahh.  It's like the excuse teenagers use for rolling somebody's yard with toilet paper.  "We wouldn't do it if we didn't like you."

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« Reply #102 on: January 08, 2009, 10:28:49 AM »
Quote from: RedFXR2 on January 08, 2009, 10:26:44 AM
Nahh.  It's like the excuse teenagers use for rolling somebody's yard with toilet paper.  "We wouldn't do it if we didn't like you."

 :2vrolijk_21: :drink: ;D

ABSOLUTELY Mike! :2vrolijk_21:

HeHe!!! I hope you scrolled down to rest of my post! ::) ;D ;)

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Re: Mikey's build of his 2000 FXR4
« Reply #103 on: January 08, 2009, 04:45:31 PM »
Quote from: FXR2evo99 on January 08, 2009, 04:40:27 PM
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YOUZZZZZ GUYZZZZ ARE NUTS....

LAUGHING!!!

I know I know I know....

I DID make a modification to REPLY #58 above.....noting that the corrected compression information by William Denish applies to both engines, ie: TWIN CAMS as well as for EVO ENGINES.

Tim

And now for The InTIMidator's breakin procedure! ;D ;D ;D ;) :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :vrolijk_11: :drink:

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« Reply #104 on: January 08, 2009, 05:56:42 PM »
Quote from: Hoist! on January 08, 2009, 04:45:31 PM
And now for The InTIMidator's breakin procedure! ;D ;D ;D ;) :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenjump3: :vrolijk_11: :drink:

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Got a ring to it don't it?  :2vrolijk_21:  ;D
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