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[JCZ]

JCZ, had a little set back dealer did'nt have RT in stock but I will post pic. asap on the theaders [smiley=nixweiss.gif]

Some of the dealerships that don't keep such common parts in stock really surprise me.  Kingsalmon went through the same thing, at Fremont (Calif.) Harley Davidson.  I think his was the ECM if it wasn't the RT.  Common parts folks.......make sure you have plenty in stock.  They don't sound like the kind of dealership that would make me want to go back.  I think I might be spoiled.

[Bikrtrsh]

I also agree with Starvin about finding a dyno tech. The guys at all the local dealerships are just about as new and inexperienced as I am. They had a friends bike for 3 days and gave it back to him running no better than before the dyno, if not worse. Told him he'd have to bring it back at another time .... go ahead and make another appointment.

Hey, with that in mind ........ I'm wondering ........ Do I have to take my software/laptop to the dyno? Or will their software run 'em all? Oh hell, that's a stupid question. I know the dyno is capable of working with any ECM.

I read an re-read the section of the user's manual on 'tuning by feel' and realized that I'm making this harder than it really is. I've been tweaking tunes on bikes for years! I used to have to play with valve lash on the rice grinders. I tuned a bunch of carburated bikes by feel (looking at plugs, exhaust and looking for flat spots in acceleration). This appears to be the same thing ...... sorta. Just done with a laptop instead or wrenches, screwdriver and feeler gauges.
I think it's just me being intimidated by the fuel injection. All this about pulse widths and everything. A whole new vocabulary of new terms for me to learn. As it turns out, the basics ain't any different. It's just mixing fuel and air and when it gets ignited.

I'm thinkin' that i'm a gonna keep written records of the adjustments I make. When I feel that I have a good tune I'll post it here in case someone else is using the same set-up as me. Maybe that way they can just 'plug and play' the calibrations rather than go though the trial and error. What do ya think? Would that be helpful for others or not?

Mark

[starvin]

there are 16 calibrations that come with the RT, only one of which is for the SEEG and thats for the SE air cleaner and SE pipes, If you guys get your bikes dyno tuned and have a custom map made you should get a copy of it, that way if you ever want to make a little adjustment you can. You paid for it and you cannot download the map from the bike to your computer.You could also share that map with anyone who has a RT. I can see going on a long trip go into the program find your cruising RPM and lean the A/F ratio a little for better gas mileage and when you get back just reinstall the modified map. Can't do this if your dealer has the map you paid him to make for you. After I have my bike dynoed I will post my map as an attachment and anyone who has the same setup can take it and install it and should get the same results.

[starvin]

Your exactly right Mark its not as complicated as it first looks. Looks like we were both on the same wave length about posting our MAPS. You would have to take your interface moduel to someone tuning your bike but they can use thier cables and computer.

[JCZ]

Bikertrash and Starvin good ideas.

[Bikrtrsh]

That's awesome Starvin! We could start a new topic for efi maps. Before long we'll have more for the 103 than PC does.  [smiley=lolk.gif]

Just curious, do ya think I could re-install  the RT software on my friends laptop and use it on his road glide too? I'd like to see if I could get it a little better than the dealer did and save the map from it too. It's an 88" tho, don't know that it would be of any benefit to anyone here anyway.

Mark

[Bikrtrsh]

 [smiley=duhk.gif] I wasn't thinking about the interface! Dammit anyhow! Foiled again!

Mark

[starvin]

Yes you can reinstall the software on your friends laptop.....but harley was way ahead of you on this one and your race tuner will not connect to his bike. When you use it for the first time it puts a code on that bikes ECM and then it will not communicate unless it sees that code. The remedy of course is buy another RT for $420.

[Bikrtrsh]

LMAO! Imagine that ..... HD finding another way to dig in the pocket!

The local dealer is wanting to charge my friend AGAIN of course. They said it's because he went with after market pipes etc. etc. If he'd stuck to SE parts they'd had it tuned in a day. LOL! I don't know about you but I ain't buyin into that excuse.

Mark

[rugbyprop]

[JCZ]

I have regreat, that I didn't look at the D&D 2 into 1 with the dummy left side.

[ggraves427]

I have seen a couple of posts about the Woods cams.  I am looking for a gear driven cam with the degree of intake and exhaust  the same as or maybe just a little on the plus side for my 04 SEEG.  Can I order them direct from Woods?  What is their phone number?  Does someone already have the parts number?  Do they make any noise akin to a blower?  If someone as already installed them on their bike I would greatly appreciate your feedback.      

[pj57]

Hey Hotlineguy! Check out the thread "dyno numbers" - there was discussion about the Woods cam there.  I've got the Wood TW5G on my SEEG and I can't tell you how well they perform. The cam retails for $390; gear drive $366; install kit $26 and Woods also offers 2 and 4 degree advance keys for $48.  The website is www.woodcarbs.com - The company is located in Alabama, ph. (205) 525-4949.  The owner's name is Bob Woods and as I mentioned in another thread, he'll take the time to talk your head off regarding performance...nice guy.  I believe he will sell the cams direct, but better yet, he'll recommend performance shops in your area that have installed his products.  His cams are manuafactured to his own specifications by Andrews.  Anyway, I swear by these cams... I have a hotter gear set in my TC 95 Softail, but the TW5G are made specifically HD touring models with SE heads. They are designed for low end TQ and use maximum valve lift w/o having to change springs.  Great products... By the way, I noticed we're into group buying here - wonder if Bobby might cut us some slack if we get enough orders together. Just a thought...p.s. I can't exactly explained the sound, but, yeah, it's akin to a supercharger...it's distinctive enough for guys come up to me after I fire up my bike and ask what kind of cam I'm running.  For me it was worth the $1K investment...you'll love 'em if you go that route.  Regards, PJ

[JCZ]

I have seen a couple of posts about the Woods cams.

[mr_magoo]

Would like to see post of maps for the racetuner.  And I have yet to find someone in this area that knows how to tune a fuel injected bike.