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[SteveFLHTK]

It's not really clear in either set of instructions.  I didn't do that, and I am not entirely sure I can easily remove the iPod interface to try it now.

[Trey767]

Use a duck bill or hemostat or needle nose to remove the pins, you hold the pin - not to hard; rotate the pin about 90degrees and push down. Just take your time. just remember dont squeeze the pin too hard. remove the 5 pins and install the NIM . My ipod harness is on order aslo

[bissjim]

This is getting interesting....

It is like reading a good book....you just can not put it down.

I think I will blow the dust off my prototype, find a container for it and install it on my bike. At least the prototype works, it may not look as nice as the NIM but you do not see it when the cowling is back on anyway.

What really gets me about this is, if I can build an interface that works without having a multi-million dollar R&D department what is the MoCo doing?

Jim

[SteveFLHTK]

I think this also proves....if you make it, we will buy it.

[Trey767]

Jim, who cares what it looks ilk a s long as it works. All we is a pretty peace of sh$t.

[bissjim]

You might want to give the NIM a chance; it is possible there is a step that is not being completed for it to work. The MoCo may fix the problem if there is one and it is also possible it is a piece of sh&t.

I just can not get over the fact that the MoCo would sell something that does not work or is redundant and does nothing more then what the stereo extension cable running from the Zumo to the Aux input does. Perhaps I just don't get it.

I still need to try and reduce the size and complexity of my prototype. I would like to be able to put it in the same type of package as the Bomm. I still use components that are large in size compared to micro-components. My eye's will not allow me to use micro-components and my hands shake a bit so soldering them to a circuit board would give me a heart attack. I would have to have the boards made and that would add to the cost, which I want to keep around $99.00 if I was to make them to sell.

All in all if I decided to sell it I need to find a way to make them for what I want it will be some months before I do. I still need to test the unit on my bike to see if there are any problems with it.

In the mean time I will continue to read this post with excitement and curiosity.

Jim

[SteveFLHTK]

Here is the definitive answer.  This new Nav unit WILL NOT work with a Zumo.  It requires a Road Tech as there is something in the RT that sends an enabling pulse to the module.

[Twolanerider]

Here is the definitive answer.  This new Nav unit WILL NOT work with a Zumo.  It requires a Road Tech as there is something in the RT that sends an enabling pulse to the module.

Sounds like something that could be gotten around with a software patch/hack. 

[SteveFLHTK]

Possibly, but it's gone beyond what I can do.  I'm taking the module back tomorrow.

[Twolanerider]

Possibly, but it's gone beyond what I can do.  I'm taking the module back tomorrow.

Without getting the assumed necessary signal out of the "wrong" GPS unit unfortunately you don't know if you even have a clue if the thing actually works or not.  Others with the "right" GPS were getting similar activity.  But it's not safe to assume yours is representative now.

[Twolanerider]

Also, if the HD brand of the Zumo sends the wake up pulse and the OE branded version of the unit does not it seems a fair assumption that the pulse was included for a reason.  So they've had this interconnect module in the works (or at least as an idea) since early in the Road Tech Zumo product development.

[SteveFLHTK]

Well, honestly, I think what's happened in some of the installations is that they don't have the pins installed correctly.  You have to remove some dummy pins in the 35 pin connector and install the pins from the wiring harness.  If a pin is not fully seated, it won't make contact....and believe me, it can be close and not make contact (don't ask me how I know).

I spent several hours on the phone today with the MoCo about this.  I was the first person they know of that has tried to install both the iPod and Nav interface.  He told me they've had several calls (3) from various Dealers having problems similar to what we've seen here.  Part of the problem with the dual install, is there is no real info how to interconnect the units.  I looked at it and was able to figure it out correctly, but in the instructions, it says install these pins...if you have the other info, follow that installation procedure.  The other procedure says install these pins....if you have....doesn't matter which you start with, you can't install 2 pins into each hole.

The fact that my unit worked perfectly with a RT, and not at all with a Zumo, added to the fact that his RT worked perfectly with his bike (CVO Road Glide Ultra, factory installed options) and did NOT work with the Zumo, I think this is pretty clear.

[Twolanerider]

Unfortunate it wouldn't work as you'd hoped with your gear.  That's the sorry end game.  Thanks for guinea pigging so much of it out though.  The info really is appreciated.

[Bigdog6996]

Steve,
If i read your last post correctly, you managed to get both the ipod interface and nim to work with the rt.  Is this right? 

[SteveFLHTK]

That is absolutely correct.  Installation is VERY not clear when you install both.  Here's the deal that no one apparently knows or will tell (Tech Support didn't know until I told them).  Both the Nav interface and iPod interface come with an interconnect harness.  This harness is identical in both kits.  Doesn't matter which one you install, they install the same.  The difference is, the iPod interface plugs into the 8 pin connector on the harness, the Nav interface plugs into the 6 pin.  If you only get one module, it comes with a dummy plug, either 6 or 8 pin, depending on which you buy, and you plug the unused connector.  The instructions actually point you back and forth to each set of instructions without really telling you this.