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[DOC.COFFIN]

I am in need of a CB added to my 2011 FLHXSE2 CVO...Has anyone added this module to the Advance Audio System? I'm looking for input on several points...HD equipment or aftermarket? List of ACTUAL necessary parts? Is it easy enough to DO IT YOURSELF or should I have it professionally installed? Thanks!

[Harleypingman]

[NOTE:  Since this thread was started, TIF2 has done a lot of work on the unique and problematic audio wiring of the SESG2 to provide solutions.  See his replies #38, 39, and 40 below.  The omission of the 6B connector from the SESG2 audio/interconnect harness is addressed relatively early in this thread.  However, two of the wires used in the omitted 6B connector which are customarily found in connector 27B (the 23 wire connector on the back of the HK radio) and would be supplied to the 6B connector added to the SESG2 interconnect/audio harness, are omitted from the SESG2's 27B connector.  The omissions are addressed in TIF2's comprehensive replies to provide functioning CB/Intercom on the SESG2.]


A good primer on installing CB on a non-CB equipped bike is HD's Boom Audio Music and Intercom kit, p/n 77108-09.  The installation instructions and p/n's are on HD's website; here's the link:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448774053&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302290635&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302290635&bmUID=1282063873312&bmLocale=en_US

The kit includes passenger headset connector and PTT/vol. switch which may or may not be relevant to you depending on whether you carry a passenger or not.  In any case, the primary, relevant parts are:  CB module; non-Ultra Overlay harness (to connect the rider headset, CB module, etc.); rider headset connector and harness; left-hand switches/harness to include PTT/Squelch switch; passenger headset connector and harness; passenger PTT/vol. switch and harness; and, CB antenna.

A primary benefit of the BAMI kit is that it provides for the rider headset connector without replacing the tank console; mounting it on double-side tape forward of the seat on the gas tank; also, no tour pak is needed for the passenger headset connector or passenger PTT/vol. switch.

I installed the kit on my '04 (which included changes not relevant to installtion on newer models) with the Harman Kardon head unit and wrote-up the installation with pictures:

http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=42830.0

Not exactily your application, but should provide some useful information.  HD's fitment information doesn't provide and special information for installation on your bike, but you should probably confirm whatever you want to do with a knowledgeable person at HD before buying parts.

Carl

[DOC.COFFIN]

Thanks Carl! I appreciate the help!

Doc

[Myko]

All good points as I need comms, but haven't figured out an antenna solution for my '10 SESG... HD hasn't come out with a mount yet unless you go with a Tour Pak mount... curious to see what others may have done or thoughts on this..

[Harleypingman]

I'm using J&M's in-fairing CB antenna as mentioned in the link I posted on my BAMI kit installation above:

http://www.jmcorp.com/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=FPA-HCCB&PF=43

My experience has been that it's at least adequate for group riding and the only problem I've encounterd is the plastic clips included with the kit to route the antenna wire are attached to the inner fairing with double-sided tape which doesn't hold particularly well.  I'll probably remove the outer fairing this week-end and use 3M Automotive Emblem adhesive on the clips and ditch the double-sided tape.

Glad to help.

Carl

[NativTexan]

Thanks for the input.  I am looking to install the CB on my FLHXSE2.  There was an earlier thread talking about this and I just found the J & M fairing mounted antennea.  

Is there a cheaper boom audio kit that doesnt have the passenger connections?

[NativTexan]

I just ordered all the parts.  Will let you know in about 3 weeks when they all come in to see how it works out.

[DOC.COFFIN]

NativTexan ~ Did you order Harleypingman's list or did you find other solutions? What was your out-the-door price (parts and labor)? Or did you decide to DIY?

[NativTexan]

Yes, I used his list.  A freind of mine has the CB module which will save me $299.00 - 20% from Chicago Harley.  My mechanic said he could install in about 2-3 hours.

The other parts are
CB Module would have been $240.00
1 x 70169-06 (70169-06) = $103.96  Harness
1 x 77107-09 (77107-09) = $319.96  BAMI Kit
The J & M internal mounted antenea is $69.00 plus shipping

It looks like the BAMI kit comes with the rider push to talk controls but I am sure I will need another Chrome Housing..  I don't know what that part # is yet.

I already have two headsets that I purchased for my 07 Ultra.

Info from his other post.
The BAMI kit does not provide passenger control of the audio mode that is found on Ultra models.
The primary components in the kit are:  (1) three harnesses for the rider headset connector, passenger headset connector, and passenger PTT/vol.; (2) assembled left handlebar switches/black switch housings/harness; and, (3) fairing cap "Speaker" switch.

Additional parts needed for installation/operation are:  (1) non-Ultra overlay harness, p/n 70169-06; (2) CB module 76416-06C; an antenna (I used the new J&M in-fairing CB antenna); and, headset/mic (I used J&M Elite series headset and Z lower cord).

[Harleypingman]

Yes, I used his list.  A freind of mine has the CB module which will save me $299.00 - 20% from Chicago Harley.

The other parts are
1 x 77107-09 (77107-09) = $319.96  BAMI Kit

NativTexan, the BAMI kit I used was 77108-09 (now -09A); NOT 77107-09.
I don't know whether the 77107-09 kit will work with the CB module or not.  Did the dealership tell you to use that BAMI kit instead of the 77108-09A?  HD's fitment information is confusing regarding which BAMI kit to use, but I  used the 77108-09 kit.

The lower left chrome switch housing is p/n 70163-96A.

Carl

[Harleypingman]

NativTexan, I sent you an email regarding the different p/n's:  you posted that you ordered BAMI kit 77107-09, and in my thread I posted that I used BAMI kit 77108-09 (now listed as 77108-09A).  The difference between the two kits appears to be (since I've never physically examined the 77107-09 kit and am relying on the installation instructions for that kit) that the kit you ordered uses a harness that incorporates the rider PTT and headset connections, and the passenger PTT and headset connections into a single, integrated harness with no provision for adding the CB module connection.  The BAMI kit I used doesn't use a single, integrated harness.  Instead, it uses the non-Ultra overlay harness, p/n 70169-06 (which you ordered) that plugs into the back of the HK head unit (as does the integrated harness in the kit you ordered), but has connections available into which are connected the rider PTT and headset connection, etc. supplied in the BAMI kit I used.

Said another way, while the rider PTT and headset connections, etc. in the BAMI kit I used are separate pieces that connect to the non-Ultra overlay harness, the BAMI kit you apparently ordered uses a single, integrated harness with those rider PTT and headset connections, etc. as part of that harness (i.e. those components are part of the harness, not plugged into it) with no provision for adding the CB module connection.

Again, I've never seen the harness used in the kit you ordered, but based on the installation instructions for that kit, the rider PTT and headset connection and passenger PTT and headset connection may not be separate harnesses that can be plugged into the non-Ultra overlay harness you ordered since they are already integrated into the harness that plugs into the HK head unit. 

I hope your reference to the 77107-09 kit was a typo; otherwise, you may have issues trying to accomplish what you want.





 

[NativTexan]

Actually it wasnt a typeo so I am working on updating that order. I received your email and I appreciate the response. 

[Harleypingman]

You're welcome.

When you install the J&M CB in-fairing antenna, a suggestion:  remove the double-sided tape from the small plastic clips that secure the antenna (small dia. covered wire) to the inner fairing, and use 3M VHB double-sided tape or equivalent.  The double-sided tape J&M uses on the clips doesn't seem to stick very well inside my fairing; perhaps due to the 90* days here in the South.  When the tape fails, the antenna wire tends to simply fall away from its intended location decreasing its effectiveness.

Carl

[NativTexan]

Thanks for that update as well.  How well does the antenea work inside the fairing say compared to an Ultra clasic with a short J&M extrernal antenea?  With my 07 Ultra it worked fairly well to a distance of about 1 mile.  Seemed like it would have been much better..  I have heard that if the other CB is in front it works better than the bikes behinnd you.
Obviuosly here in Texas we get more than the 90 degree temperatures.  Wait, its only going to be 96 today!  Here comes fall...

[Harleypingman]

NT, never had CB before this installation.  My iniitial experience during cool weather riding (when the clips were newly installed) was the CB worked the same regardless of where the receiving CB was located--I never tested max range, but it was good for at least 1/2 mile which was fine for my group riding.  In the hot weather, when the clips separated from the inner fairing, it seemed to broadcast better rearward than forward.  I've since used the VHB double-sided tape and don't notice a difference.  If you have buddies having issues, perhaps they should check the clips.

I have a buddy with an SWR meter and will use it to tune measure the SWR of the J&M.  I also installed the HD CB cable and have the CB antenna from the '08 Ultra tour pak I purchased as part of my bike repaint project and plan to hook-up the antenna to compare how the in-fairing antenna compares with an essentially OEM Ultra (at least the '08 version with the loading coil in the tour pak) antenna.

Good luck with your installation.

Carl