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[Twolanerider]

I just might do that. Bought my bike at Joplin, and my daughter lives in Webb City .  I'm up there several times a year to see the Grandsons.
(Your write-up was excellent by the way.)

Definitely do that when you have a chance.  I'll be in Rogers later today but no spare time.  Sometime we'll find a beer to compare bikes over.

[dmnrdn]

I have about 6K on mine. 07 Stage II 103 Ultra Classic, SERT tuned by what I consider one of the best SERT tuners around.   Just got back from a 10 day trip in Colorado and put around 2K (bike had to be trailered back from Pueblo because I broke my leg walking across a church parking lot. Long story)

I was also pulling a Bushtec  Bike was flawless in the way it ran and performed.  We ran from  Kansas City to Colorado Springs(I35,50,56) Pikes Peak, Independence Pass Mile Hwy, Independence Pass, Million Mile Hwy, 4 Corners, Mesa Verde.  Not a single problem per say

The other bikes 07 Ultra Classic stock, 07 Road King AC SE Pipes Dealer Download, 10 Street Glide Stock, 11 Road Glide Limited with AC pipes & SSERT had problems with pre detonation when we got into higher altitudes.  Mine did it about 3 times and then went away. The EMS learned and made the corrections from there on out.

Like Twolanerider my  MPG is up (2-5 depending on how I ride) power is to me better.  

The EMS performs/works as  advertised. It is that simple

[mattm]

07 Stage II 103 Ultra Classic, SERT tuned by what I consider one of the best SERT tuners around.

The EMS learned and made the corrections from there on out.

The EMS performs/works as  advertised. It is that simple

I don't quite understand, do you have a SERT or an EMS?

[Twolanerider]

I don't quite understand, do you have a SERT or an EMS?

Matt, it sounds like both.  He had what was a good SERT tune by a good SERT tuner.  Yet the bike was still improved upon with the addition of the EMS package.  We did learn one major deficiency of the EMS package though.  It can't keep you from breaking your leg in a church parking lot.




p.s., sorry about the leg man, heal fast!

[dmnrdn]

Matt, it sounds like both.  He had what was a good SERT tune by a good SERT tuner.  Yet the bike was still improved upon with the addition of the EMS package.  We did learn one major deficiency of the EMS package though.  It can't keep you from breaking your leg in a church parking lot.




p.s., sorry about the leg man, heal fast!

LMAO. That is funny no matter who you are

Don, you explained it correctly

[mattm]

That's exactly why I try to stay out of church. 

[Mr_Ed]

Jesus you guys...../sigh

so NOW that I just "today" paid for a SERT and scheduled a dyno tune for next Thursday.....I read this post.....

We need an emote of a guy smacking himself in the head with a hammer.....a very BIG hammer....it would better fit with how I'm feeling at the moment !

So let me understand this exactly.  I have a totally stock 2011 Street Glide.  I myself could put the Rush True Duals on, and the CFR slip ons, install one of these EMS tuning kits, fire the bike up and ride it a bit, and have a bike running as good if not better than the same set up with an excellent tune done by the best of tuners out there ?  And probably get better mileage as well ?

[Twolanerider]

Jesus you guys...../sigh

so NOW that I just "today" paid for a SERT and scheduled a dyno tune for next Thursday.....I read this post.....

We need an emote of a guy smacking himself in the head with a hammer.....a very BIG hammer....it would better fit with how I'm feeling at the moment !

So let me understand this exactly.  I have a totally stock 2011 Street Glide.  I myself could put the Rush True Duals on, and the CFR slip ons, install one of these EMS tuning kits, fire the bike up and ride it a bit, and have a bike running as good if not better than the same set up with an excellent tune done by the best of tuners out there ?  And probably get better mileage as well ?

Those with good experiences with the product would say that's what you should expect.  Those that make their living tuning would, of course, disagree.  As with all things there's some variance.  But the concensus so far has been favorable among those that have used the EMS product.

A couple of qualifiers in your case though.  The company doesn't have the product released yet for 2011 bikes (or at least they didn't as of a few weeks ago).  So you'd have the extra expense of getting a 2008 ECM that they could program.  You'd also need to have known before you ordered your pipes and got a set of 09 year model pipes as the newer pipes use a smaller o2 bung than the EMS kit's sensors can accept.

[Mr_Ed]

So help me out here Twolanerider....I just found this site   http://thp.yuku.com/topic/4632   that says their available for 2011 ?.....not sure yet but will call tomorrow and verify with Rev Performance.  Also the headpipes ?....maybe I'm not seeing something but the Rush 7017 True Duals say they fit 09 to 11..../scratches head.....does that mean they can accommodate either style sensors ?.....I'm confused there because 09 is different than 10 and 11 right ?

[Twolanerider]

So help me out here Twolanerider....I just found this site   http://thp.yuku.com/topic/4632   that says their available for 2011 ?.....not sure yet but will call tomorrow and verify with Rev Performance.  Also the headpipes ?....maybe I'm not seeing something but the Rush 7017 True Duals say they fit 09 to 11..../scratches head.....does that mean they can accommodate either style sensors ?.....I'm confused there because 09 is different than 10 and 11 right ?

Ed, will share what I know:

Awhile back Revolution Performance thought they were close to release of their EMS product for 2011.  Some product literature got out showing it available.  Subsequently that proved to be optimistic and the 2011 product hadn't been released at least as of a month ago (which was the last time I had reason to check for someone).  On the company's own website right now (just checked) they're not showing a 2011 offering.  So it's likely they're still not ready yet.  Always best to ask them directly for the most current information though.

The pipes might or might be ok.  Some of the aftermarket suppliers are already supplying a generic 09 and up pipe that simply has two sets of o2 bungs.  So they can accommodate either size sensor from 09 or the 2010-2011 variant.  Your pipe may be that way if it is listed for 2009-2011.  Again worth checking with the vendor to know for sure though.

2011 owners do have an alternative on the ECM if they want to go before the company releases their 2011 specific product.  They can write prior year model ECMs.  So you can pick up a good used -08 or -08A ECM on eBay and be good to go.  -08B revisions, however, apparently get the same changes in software as the 2011 modules do so they can't be (yet) written to.

Hope that didn't muddy the waters rather than clear them.

[Mr_Ed]

Hope that didn't muddy the waters rather than clear them.

Nope, that was perfect friend, thank you very much.  The literature thing explains that perfectly, and I kinda deduced the same thing about the head pipes, I'll call tomorrow to verify.  I'm not sure I could make it work going this route now, I'm on a really tight schedule to make a ride at the end of the month and things are already in motion, sure wish I would have read all this a month ago, hell even a week ago.  My bad 

[Twolanerider]

Nope, that was perfect friend, thank you very much.  The literature thing explains that perfectly, and I kinda deduced the same thing about the head pipes, I'll call tomorrow to verify.  I'm not sure I could make it work going this route now, I'm on a really tight schedule to make a ride at the end of the month and things are already in motion, sure wish I would have read all this a month ago, hell even a week ago.  My bad 

Don't get too wound up Ed.  If you had a good tune ahead of you that won't change.  I and some others here have come to be quite impressed with this product.  But that in no way suggests others can't still do a good job.  Do what you need to for the end of month trip and have so much fun all worries will be left far behind.

[MrEd]

Well I cancelled the SERT and tune.  Couldn't get the REV PERF EMS off my mind and I know myself well enough to know what that meant.  Besides....I might be upgrading from a 2011 SG to a 2012 one anyhow 

[MrEd]

I forgot to say as well.....talked to them yesterday....they should have their product available for the 2011's within 3 or 4 weeks roughly 

[Twolanerider]

I forgot to say as well.....talked to them yesterday....they should have their product available for the 2011's within 3 or 4 weeks roughly 

Ed, I'm confident you'll like the end result when it's available.  While I've come to respect and admire the effort, attitude, respect, intelligence and general comradeship within the community that comes from Revolution Performance it is the case that the 2011 kit has been "three or four weeks" away since the spring.  Not saying that hasn't truly been there belief.  In fact I'm confident it has been or they wouldn't have said it each time.  It's just been a harder nut to crack than they expected.

Will suggest one thing here.  This is wholly speculation on my part and I won't mind at all if someone from RevPerf points out the error in the speculation.

If you can stumble in to an -08 or an -08A ECM on eBay or elsewhere there might be some at last initial benefit to doing the EMS package with that rather than the 2011 ECM.  Thinking here is that the software they've done for the prior year's ECMs would currently be a more mature product for them; something they've been doing for awhile.  If it is the case that the 2011 modules' software is so wholly different the work RevPerf does to it might be wholly different from their prior efforts as well. 

I'm confident they wouldn't release a 2011 product they didn't feel was ready for prime time.  When given the choice, however, I'll usually opt against being an early adopter of first generation software.