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[porthole]

I am looking at the tuner options, but am concerned about the Warranty issues also...

After digging through seemingly endless posts, it looks like its a total crapshoot at the discretion of individual dealers....with maybe the SERT being the least risk..

The SERT is probably your biggest risk. I am not going to get into the warranty debate. The problem with a SERT is that it fingerprints the ECM which the dealer can then "see" and try to deny a warranty claim.
If warranty is your concern stick with something like the PC.

[porthole]

Got a PM asking what happened to the old Power Commander.  Can't specifically say of course.  It just got hinky. 

Twice in recent rides the bike just shut off.  First time I pulled and tugged and generally checked things around on the side of the road and it decided to restart.  Second time it didn't decide to restart.

After ten minutes or so of checking what could be eyeballed on the side of the road I unplugged the PC and plugged the ECM back in.  Bike fired up.  Unplugged and replugged the PC two more and the problem repeated.

Later that night with a cold PC the bike started and ran fine.  But I wasn't going to trust it anymore.  So went with the EMS as a solution.

LTBawb had the same problem with his. Supposedly caused by a bad battery. Ended up replacing both.

[Twolanerider]

LTBawb had the same problem with his. Supposedly caused by a bad battery. Ended up replacing both.

Red bike's battery checked ok.  Not too old either.  Fortunately no problem since.  But it's easy to mistrust batteries.  Always worth worrying about.

[porthole]

Red bike's battery checked ok.  Not too old either.  Fortunately no problem since.  But it's easy to mistrust batteries.  Always worth worrying about.

LT didn't mistrust it - "never" gave it a thought 

I think it was the original

[hogasm]

Stay away from Kathy's bike B!

Wrong B Porthole

[porthole]

Wrong B Porthole

Stay away from Kathy's bike - Brian 

[ggraham45]

i finished up today putting the revperf.ems on my bike today.the bike is a 2008 serk with a 117 from hillside with 408-6 cams heads were done by scott i have the hpi54mm tb with 5.3 inj d&d fatcat with louvered baffle.after setting all winter the bike started right up and idled very well being its only 35 degres and snowing here in ny.i always had trouble starting the bike with the power comm.cant ride yet but so far very impressed.

[141_starlifter]

Finally got the EMS on the 2010 Street Glide with Fullsac Pipes. The EMS is easier and much cleaner install on the 2010-2011 units because the O2 hook ups are under the right side cover. The full sac pipes went on as easy as a stock system and fit perfect. These two products are well made. After the install fired up the bike and it ran perfect with no issues. Short ride says this is a great set up and very easy..

[Arctic John]

Starlift....what pipes did you get from fullsac?  and was the install of the new emc fairly straight forward?   I'm looking at going the same way with the Fullsac 1.75 and Rev Perf. system

[Twolanerider]

Finally got the EMS on the 2010 Street Glide with Fullsac Pipes. The EMS is easier and much cleaner install on the 2010-2011 units because the O2 hook ups are under the right side cover. The full sac pipes went on as easy as a stock system and fit perfect. These two products are well made. After the install fired up the bike and it ran perfect with no issues. Short ride says this is a great set up and very easy..

I know that collectively we don't have a large reservoir of experience with the EMS package yet.  This summer will tell an interesting collective tail.  But I have to admit to grinning just a bit when I read these continued install and first use anecdotes. 

Instead of episodes of asking for map alternatives, requesting how and how much to tweak the maps, discovering where settings are in control software or bravely claiming victory over three or four hours of reading software and product docs just to get familiar enough to even get started it's just "fired up and it ran."  Over and over that's about it.  Just fired up and it ran. 

I may be old and lazy anymore.  But "just fired up and it ran" beats hell out fighting and tweaking and messing with them. 

[Twolanerider]

Was asked earlier today what the experience has been like so far with the EMS tuning package.  Rather than answer back in private seemed more relevant to respond here where the conversation started.

Have looked in the holes and at the exhaust.  Engine is running as clean or cleaner than it ever has.  Piston tops and valves look great.  Sounds good and feels good.  No variability from the "wandering tune" that we've seen with other management packages.  Good fuel economy and good power.  The system really does seem to "just work."  Though it may not sound like it that really is high praise.

Full disclosure requires saying still don't have a ton of miles on it.  There's been some unfortunate weather this spring that has kept me close to home lately.  That and the rest of real life intruding on play means the bike hasn't been more than a day away from home so far this year.  Still has been ridden locally.  With good regularity. 

Was a stretch during cooler weather the bike had an intermittent driveability problem.  No codes.  Nothing that screamed it was the culprit.  I suspected crank position sensor and eventually changed the sensor as part of troubleshooting.  That so far seems to have fixed it.  During the troubleshooting process, however, I spoke with Revolution Performance about the issue to ask the general question, "Can you think of anything in the ECM's new programming that might be a part of this?"

I didn't expect there to be a problem in the ECM.  It was only because of the somewhat close time coincidence of installation to the problem that I asked.  What I also didn't expect, however, was their suggesting I send the ECM back for a quick look if I wished to.  They'd check it out, confirm all was ok and send it back in a hurry.  And they did.  Didn't charge a dime for what was man hours and computer time they spent just to make my troubleshooting easier by completely isolating the ECM from the mix.

So the summary for my experience with the product is: It just works.  After a few months and few thousand miles it just works.  And I couldn't ask for more.  Summary for the shop's efforts are the same.  And I couldn't ask for more.

[hogasm]

I have been running into the same thing Don.....It just works

Not many folks around here frequent forums like this one so when I tell them to read up on some of the new products out there it is like talking to a brick wall. if the Harley shop tells them something...it is gospel. Trying to break them of this has been very difficult....so the other day I put one of the most skeptical, outspoken guys in the local HOG membership.

His bike was a 09 FLHTC with 103 motor, 204cams, breather, Vance and Hines 2/1/2 pipes. PC with tune....pinged....HOT!...33mpg

 Kathy's SEEG w/ 575's would leave it which would make him madder than you could imagine.

So I convinced him to install a RP EMS on my dime using my spare ECM I had purchased on Ebay
Installed it in my shop shop with about 10 people watching

He rode the bike to Va and back filling up twice. First tank 38mpg....Second tank 42mpg. No pinging, cool and runs like a scolded dog. I rode it and am not sure I want to put Kathy's bike against it for having to listen to him. He did pay me

So I made a believer out of him which I would have never thought would have happened.

[mike5511]

Mostly just lurk here as my bike is a non-cvo, (08 Ultra).  Signed up just to follow the threads about the RevPerf.  I'll add my 2 cents.  Installed the RevPerf this past winter.  Won't bore you with repetitive results, will just say my experience has been nothing but positive.  I had the SESPT and a dealer dyno prior to switching to RevPerf product.

[Twolanerider]

Mostly just lurk here as my bike is a non-cvo, (08 Ultra).  Signed up just to follow the threads about the RevPerf.  I'll add my 2 cents.  Installed the RevPerf this past winter.  Won't bore you with repetitive results, will just say my experience has been nothing but positive.  I had the SESPT and a dealer dyno prior to switching to RevPerf product.

If you're NWA we're almost neighbors Mike.  I'm in Joplin.  Drop a message if you're riding this way sometime.

[mike5511]

I just might do that. Bought my bike at Joplin, and my daughter lives in Webb City .  I'm up there several times a year to see the Grandsons.
(Your write-up was excellent by the way.)