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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #45 on: September 11, 2007, 11:07:00 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on September 11, 2007, 11:00:55 PM
How much? I'll get it in the morning? ;D

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #46 on: September 11, 2007, 11:07:46 PM »
Quote from: Silver-Black on September 11, 2007, 11:00:09 PM
But I would pay top dollar for a picture of your bike in a trailer!


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IN a trailer? Do you remember where I'm from? My bike is coming ON a trailer.
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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #47 on: September 11, 2007, 11:10:29 PM »
KHD,

Thank you for sharing with us the information you received.  I assume that is the only reason you started this thread, not to defend dealerships everywhere.

I don't know you either, but I have always thought of you as a "friend on the inside" if you know what I mean.  Unfortunately, as you well know, the dealership and its employees are the face of the MOCO to its customers.  You bear the brunt of their frustrations.  At least you have the guts to come on here and take this abuse, unlike the other dealerships that just lurk on the site gleaning what information they can from us.

I understand everyone's frustration.  I have certainly had my own.  My local dealership is a joke (just ask Twolane if you don't believe me), but I expect most of them are very good operations, ran by good people who really have the customers best interest at heart.  That is how they have stayed in business, by taking care of their customers.

We live in, not only a free society, but a market society.  If you don't believe you are getting the best value for your dollar, spend your money elsewhere.  If the market won't bear $5k over MSRP, then the price will come down.  Come on people, if someone offered me a job at twice the salary do you think I would turn it down because I may not be worth that much.  I personally don't think a single player in the NBA is worth what they make, but apparently the market does.

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #48 on: September 11, 2007, 11:14:33 PM »
Quote from: Silver-Black on September 11, 2007, 11:07:00 PM
Name it my friend!
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We'll negotiate when I get there. After all you can negotiate anything!

I think that's what Bubba means. If you can't reach a deal, then there is no deal. Everything in life is negotiable my friends! :o

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #49 on: September 11, 2007, 11:17:20 PM »
Quote from: Silver-Black on September 11, 2007, 11:07:00 PM
Name it my friend!
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You give me a blank check on your account, I'll pose beside the trailer and bike with my dentures out.
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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #50 on: September 11, 2007, 11:19:26 PM »
Quote from: HogBreath on September 11, 2007, 11:17:20 PM
You give me a blank check on your account, I'll pose beside the trailer and bike with my dentures out.

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :ROFLOL: :ROFLOL: :ROFLOL: ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #51 on: September 11, 2007, 11:19:52 PM »
Travis AMEN and well said. THAT my friend is the way it is.
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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #52 on: September 11, 2007, 11:21:21 PM »
Quote from: HogBreath on September 11, 2007, 11:19:52 PM
Travis AMEN and well said. THAT my friend is the way it is.

What's the matter Ken, the girls ain't talkin about bikes with you? :o ;D

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #53 on: September 11, 2007, 11:24:54 PM »
Quote from: Hoist on September 11, 2007, 11:21:21 PM
What's the matter Ken, the girls ain't talkin about bikes with you? :o ;D

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We're saving that conversation for the 3 frigging hour trip to Memphis tomorrow, BUDDY.
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« Reply #54 on: September 11, 2007, 11:26:51 PM »
Quote from: HogBreath on September 11, 2007, 11:24:54 PM
We're saving that conversation for the 3 frigging hour trip to Memphis tomorrow, BUDDY.

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #55 on: September 11, 2007, 11:27:07 PM »
How much money do you need to make?  On a CVO you make 18% at MSRP so a 30K CVO makes you about $5400.  Setup charges is like the diner asking for money for cooking the eggs, it's part of making the $5400.  This is not including all of the parts and labor added to the new bike at 50% markup.  And we all know the techs make crap.  
Now for the trade in.  You tell the customer their bike is only worth $20K and then next day ask $26K.  So you think making over 5K on the new and 6K on the old for a total of 11K is reasonable profit?  I think not.
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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #56 on: September 11, 2007, 11:29:55 PM »
Quote from: HogBreath on September 11, 2007, 11:24:54 PM
We're saving that conversation for the 3 frigging hour trip to Memphis tomorrow, BUDDY.

Ken,

Once you have had your fill of talking about spa treatments and getting your nails done.  (somewhere just outside of town) give me a call on the cell.  We'll talk about bikes, beers, cigars, and our favorite bars.  Hey, isn't that a country music lyric.   :confused5:

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #57 on: September 11, 2007, 11:34:45 PM »
I am new around here, but since Bubba has been talking "truths" this evening and it is his thread, I'll take the flame, but this thread has been:

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #58 on: September 11, 2007, 11:36:28 PM »
Quote from: Fired00d on September 11, 2007, 11:01:56 PM
No, but I wouldn't sell it for 3-5K more then what it is worth just because I can get it either (probably the reason I'm not in sales, because I have a conscious :nixweiss:).

If that same dealer is selling 3-5K over MSRP and he's already making profit (yes there is built in profit if it's sold at MSRP) I wouldn't call his profit being tied up. He may have to wait to reap all the profit, but there is instant gains made.

You have your opinion as I have mine. I've just dealt w/honest dealers that offer there bikes at MSRP and I refuse to pay more then that. If you can get more so be it, you just will not get more from me.

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WELL IF THAT IS A TRUE STATEMENT THEN dOOD OLE BUDDY YOUR ONE IN A MILLION  ....IF THATS TRUE ILL TELL YOU WHAT ILL DO ..ILL MAKE YOU A GOD FATHER DEAL ...IF YOU WILL TAKE 2500 LESS THEN YOUR BIKE IS WORTH ON TRADE ...ILL SELL YOU MINE AT MSRP ...THEN WE BOTH CAN FEEL GOOD ABOUT OURSELF  :bananarock:

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Re: Latest from Harley on the lack of Inventory
« Reply #59 on: September 11, 2007, 11:40:24 PM »
Quote from: skreminegul07 on September 11, 2007, 11:27:07 PM
How much money do you need to make?  On a CVO you make 18% at MSRP so a 30K CVO makes you about $5400.  Setup charges is like the diner asking for money for cooking the eggs, it's part of making the $5400.  This is not including all of the parts and labor added to the new bike at 50% markup.  And we all know the techs make crap.  
Now for the trade in.  You tell the customer their bike is only worth $20K and then next day ask $26K.  So you think making over 5K on the new and 6K on the old for a total of 11K is reasonable profit?  I think not.


First of all, the dealer didn't make $11k in profit.  They have to pay commissions, plus salaries and benefits to the sales people and the finance guys that did all the paperwork for both sales.  Plus the salaries and benefits of every one of their employees that touch both bikes from the time they arrive.  Lord only knows how much overhead they have in taxes, utilities, insurance, maintenance, interest, etc.

I'm not here to defend dealerships, they make plenty of money.  But don't kid yourself, margin on the sale of a bike, a part, or a t-shirt is NOT pure profit.

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