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Custom Vehicle Discussions => CVO™ Street Glide® => Topic started by: StreetDog on October 14, 2009, 10:50:52 PM
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List all your issues here with your SESG so we all can discover the issues and fixes. Looking through all the topics throughout the broad I found these issues so far.... gap with seat and tank, fogged headlight, rattling fuel door, a loose bolt or nut here and there, clutch not working properly, noise in primary, some have heat issues-some don't. Anyone else have something different or the fixes for these? These seem like very minor issues so far...Maybe the Motor Co. finally got most of the bugs worked out of these 110's and this could be the best CVO to date! Seems like everybody is very satisfied so far.
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I have the seat issue, but haven't discussed it with the dealer. New headlight on order to replace the fogged one, and I had a very minor flaw in the lens on the right rear turn signal / brake light led. Dealer caught that before delivery. That's it. Did fullsac 2.0" w/ cat removed and a SERT...no heat issues.
Mine runs and looks great. Couldn't be happier.
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I had an issue with the clutch before I even got it home (200 miles). Bled the clutch and it shifts fine, now. As a matter of fact, it shifts very, very smoothly.
No heat issues, no other issues. :2vrolijk_21:
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Seat Gap
Clutch
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Had the seat gap problem, fixed by the dealer.
Had a very small chip on the corner of the outer fairing....dealer discovered during setup and replace it for me.
Had a flaw in the paint on the inner fairing that couldn't be buffed out, dealer replaced it when they replaced the outer fairing.
Replaced the stock mufflers with Vance and Hines basic slippons and had the AFR brought down with the SE Super tuner, no heat issues whatsoever. Bike runs very strong...I love it!!!!
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Mine so far are:
1.0 SADDLEBAGS
1.1 The rear portion of the saddlebags seem to have a gel coat run (vertical) down the bag that wasn't caught before it was painted and clear coated. You have to look for it but it's there.
1.2 It seems that the inside of the bags were not given as much attention to a finished product as the outside portions--not as much paint clearcoat or prep work was done.
2.0 FRONT FAIRING--The gasket seals between the inner and outer portions may either be too short or not attached with some sort of adhesive. I noticed that the gaskets were coming loose from the bottom upward due to the wind when riding. So I tried to reseat them without removing the front fairing first but ended up doing it anyway to try and ensure that the gaskets were in the proper postion. It didn't work so I am procrastinating on removing the fairing again without a more permanent solution in hand. Maybe ordering another set of gaskets will produce a set that is longer and will tuck into the fairing bottom more.
3.0 RADIO SPEAKERS-- Like several other new owners, the left speaker (small white connector) seems to be loosely installed or not connected at all during the assembly process. This prevents the speaker for working at all until you R&R the outer fron faring and plug it in properly again.
4.0 LOOSE NUTS AND BOLTS--There are several reports of bolts and nuts not being tightened to spec. I have started the process of using the service manual and going over the entire bike one section at a time until it is complete.
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No issues so far
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So far I have clutch bled and now works great. Right rear shock leaked out all the oil out on garage floor, that's on back order for the last month. Now I have left front fork leaking oil. Small screws holding saddle bag latch on are loose and some had fell out before I noticed them. It does get hot quickly in traffic. I'm currently doing the fullsac stage1. Small things that will be fixed easily. Love the bike, rides great. I can't wait to get exhaust finished.
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I have to say the more I drive this bike the more I like it. The 110 is so smoooth... really a great Harley, I bought the bike for a lot of reasons the engine not the number one as I was relatively happy with a stage one 88 and feel like I got something for free. Couldn't be happier.
Clutch - yes, bled and fixed..
Fogged light lens - yes and replaced - I put in a set of "Bright Lights" not bad but will have to concider a second set of eyes sometime over the winter (which in northern New England is coming fast I'm sorry to say).
Worst complaint and I mean this is big and its already been replaced is the rattle in the fuel door button - I'm riding with a piece of scotch tape over the thing!
You guys ready for how bad this can be - my temperature gauge is about 2 degrees off center.. I'm dealing with it, I am. The fact that the gauge really doesn't work not withstanding. I put in a Hawg Tunes upgrade and there was so many wires between that gauge and me I let it go... (for now - at least until I run out of Prozac).
The other thing - I think I am staying stock on the pipes. I wish I could just get a little more sound but not much..
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Put the locking fuel door release in--it has a push button so you don't need the key to open it--No more rattle from that stock release button. May not be a sleek looking but it don't make noise :2vrolijk_21:
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Delivery is taking to long ... :santa2:
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Delivery is taking to long ... :santa2:
Now that's a real problem. :(
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I had the 2 piece eagle on the left side of my tank. Everyone at the dealership including the owner never saw it. On top of that, under the tank on the same side, there is a spot were the robot that welded the tank hit the tank in the curved portion and left a big tack weld spot that is about 1/16th of an inch long. Harley never ground it smooth, but they did paint right over it. New tank on order.
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Ambient air temperature gauge no worky. 1000 miles bike is in for service so no real list of issues so far. Exhaust options being explored but with winter on track I am going to wait until spring.
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Headlight replaced
Primary oil leak
Left turn signal short
Clutch- Bled
Bolt fell out of right front saddlebag mount
Seat gap
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Oddly, I too had the left turn signal die. The flashers worked. Very weird. Fixed in an hour.
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What is the seat gap issue?
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The seat pan is thin and does not support the riders weight which after riding for a while causes the seat to sag like a sway-back horse and creates a gap between the nose of the seat and the bottom of the tank console.
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Sounds like I really need to pack a lunch because I'm going to be at the dealership awhile looking over the bike before I take it out the door :nixweiss:
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Seat on mine sags so much with me on it the slot in the seat comes off the bracket that holds it in place.Soon as I make up my mind it'll have a Corbin or Danny Grey solo.Not sure about the new shock system.Good most of the time,but seems very harsh on concrete roads with bad expansion joints.Wish I had my Progressive 440s back to try.Love the 110.
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The seat pan is thin and does not support the riders weight which after riding for a while causes the seat to sag like a sway-back horse and creates a gap between the nose of the seat and the bottom of the tank console.
Just wondering... Do all CVO 10's have the new hammock seat? Is this why so many are having problems with a gap due to lack of support? :nixweiss:
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Just wondering... Do all CVO 10's have the new hammock seat? Is this why so many are having problems with a gap due to lack of support? :nixweiss:
I'll take a stab at this. I believe the 2010 SESG seat is based off of the 2009 SERG seat which are unique to the CVO's, although they differ in finish it appears the pan and mounting are the same. They both have the same gap problem. That said I do not believe any of the 2010 CVO's come with the "hammock" seat. The SE Ultra comes with a dual zone heated job which is probably the same as the one the MOCO produces in the p&a catalog.
The lack of support problem comes from the seat pan not being strong enough to prevent from flexing over time and producing a gap. Many riders have reported on fixes for the problem with the 09 SERG and many threads can be found on that topic as well as making bracket changes to slide the seat forward to reduce or remove the gap between the leading edge of the seat and the gas tank.
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Just wondering... Do all CVO 10's have the new hammock seat? Is this why so many are having problems with a gap due to lack of support? :nixweiss:
The SEUCs are the only CVOs that come with the hammock-style seat.
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The seat pan is thin and does not support the riders weight which after riding for a while causes the seat to sag like a sway-back horse and creates a gap between the nose of the seat and the bottom of the tank console.
ha... a lot of people must have sat on the one at the dealer near me... cause it had a 3/4 inch gap already.. the deal had a sign over the gap to cover it... I laughed at it and I told the sales man .. well that is one way to fix the gap....
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The dealer just smirked at me when I asked if it would be replaced. It's meaningless to me since I have a Corbin on order, which is in week 4 of production and it is completely stock seat, nothing custom. It looks as if snow will be on the ground before it arrives. :coolblue:
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I have the Eagle Problem. Waiting for new tank. Dealer caught it before I saw it.
Clackety noise from primary on acceleration
Can someone explain the clutch problem which seems to be correctred by bleeding it?
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The dealer just smirked at me when I asked if it would be replaced. It's meaningless to me since I have a Corbin on order, which is in week 4 of production and it is completely stock seat, nothing custom. It looks as if snow will be on the ground before it arrives. :coolblue:
I have a Corbin seat on my 2003 softail with the 240mm rear end from Performance Machine. Please post a pic of your Corbin on the CVO SG...........I may have to get one for mine. Hard seat but very comfortable :2vrolijk_21:
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I have a Corbin seat on my 2003 softail with the 240mm rear end from Performance Machine. Please post a pic of your Corbin on the CVO SG...........I may have to get one for mine. Hard seat but very comfortable :2vrolijk_21:
See page 16 & 18 of this thread..... http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=40248.225
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Ambient air temperature gauge no worky. 1000 miles bike is in for service so no real list of issues so far. Exhaust options being explored but with winter on track I am going to wait until spring.
...it no ever worky and this is my third bagger. Doc
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See page 16 & 18 of this thread..... http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=40248.225
Looks great JCZ, my interest is peaked. Man, I'm spending money already and I haven't taken delivery yet.....................I love this Country ???
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See page 16 & 18 of this thread..... http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=40248.225
And look at page 19 of that thread to see the stitch pattern that Jon had them use.........and it's in two different colors! :2vrolijk_21:
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so what's the deal with the clutch?
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Seems that many of them have air in the lines.
Mine was fine for the first twenty or thirty miles or so. But at about fifty miles it started getting hard to shift or find neutral. When I finally got off the highway and stopped, it didn't want to stop.....kept creeping forward to the point where when I grabbed the front brake it killed the motor.
Bled the clutch and it was all good.....for awhile. Eventually, it started doing it again the next day. Was at Jim's for the first service and he bled it.....over and over and over. It would get to where it appears like it's completly bled and when you're just about ready to stop.....then more air bubbles in there. It took awhile. Now it shifts fine and neutral is like hot butter. :2vrolijk_21:
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My seat was sagging so much, it would no longer stay hooked on the front tab. My dealer called "Tech Services" who told him that this was the first such problem they'd heard of. I have forwarded this thread and the seat specific thread to my dealer.
What was very cool, was that my service writer called to ask me if I wanted another SESG seat or some other Harley seat instead. I asked for another SESG seat. I do think that's a great offer and very good service. If I have another seat problem with the replacement, I may take them up on the offer.
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Foggy headlight (dealer replaced under warranty)
Seat-tank gap (can't get no satisfaction from either HD or local - I ordered and paid for new HD seat yesterday)
High Oil Pressure (in shop for 8 days - replaced cam plate under warranty)
Just added the FatShotz SE pipes - great sound now but $550 poorer.......
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Foggy headlight (dealer replaced under warranty)
Seat-tank gap (can't get no satisfaction from either HD or local - I ordered and paid for new HD seat yesterday)
High Oil Pressure (in shop for 8 days - replaced cam plate under warranty)
Just added the FatShotz SE pipes - great sound now but $550 poorer.......
I had the seat gap issue...about maybe 3/4"...he move the tang on the back of the seat back about 1/2" which forced the seat more into the tank tab. Cleared up the seat gap issue. The dealer told me even though it can be a permanent fix, they will do to my bike whatever the MoCo says to do once they come out with a solution. (If they do, that is.)
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I saw this seat on a 2010 SG at the dealer and sat on it and liked it. My dealer said it should fit my 2009 Roadking. So I came here to see if anybody had commented on comfort and I find this thread. So despite the gap is it more comfortable than most stock Harley seats or should I save for a corbin?? Thanks!
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It's more comfortable than any other HD stock seat that I've ever rode. I posted that in one of my first ride reports. I still went with Corbin right away, so didn't have time for my seat to flex. :nixweiss:
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It will flex. I had my HD saddle off and if you are gravitationally gifted as I am, you will see where it flexed and rubbed. :-\
By far the most comfy HD seat yet but a weak seat pan is the issue. :-\
If could trust corbin I would order one. If you are close like JC to sit there and bird dog em, more power to ya. :2vrolijk_21:
They are rigid pan seats with rubber stands off that only rub where they are supposed to, the top of the frame rails. :2vrolijk_21:
I may break down and get one...I'll wait til JC is there gettin the fittin done on Terri's new SESG maybe.. ;) :D
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It will flex. I had my HD saddle off and if you are gravitationally gifted as I am, you will see where it flexed and rubbed. :-\
By far the most comfy HD seat yet but a weak seat pan is the issue. :-\
If could trust corbin I would order one. If you are close like JC to sit there and bird dog em, more power to ya. :2vrolijk_21:
They are rigid pan seats with rubber stands off that only rub where they are supposed to, the top of the frame rails. :2vrolijk_21:
I may break down and get one...I'll wait til JC is there gettin the fittin done on Terri's new SESG maybe.. ;) :D
I ordered a Corbin from HD-Dude and I got it in 2 weeks. Fit was good and quality was good. It went back for an adjustment because I am vertically challenged, but other than that the seat was fine. If it fit my height better there would have been no reason to send it back.
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They spoiled me years ago with great product and service...the last time, not so much..maybe ordering through Jim will help...
Shake that money tree babe!
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Who is this Jim guy???
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HD-Dude...shop owner and site moderator..
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:nixweiss:OH. Where? Phone #?
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San Leandro, Ca. I will PM you the phone
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HD Dude
(Jim)
Metal Dragon
22336 Meekland Ave
Hayward, CA 94541-4992
(510) 885-9471
Marty
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:orange: :mango: :apple: :carrot: :jalapeno: :cucumber: :pineapple: :pepper:
Thanks Marty.
OHD
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Stock seat's the best stock seat I've had.Would keep it if I didn't want a solo seat.
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I have to agree the stock SESG seat a verycomfortable seat. I did a 360 mile day trip on the SESG and the only thing I wished I would have had was a back rest. I've since added the SESG back rest and am very happy. Dealer took care of the gap issue and I'm a happy camper now. For what Corbin charges for their seats, it's not worth changing, IMO. (And yes, I have ridden with a Corbin saddle before...they don't impress me, actually like the Mustangs better, and for all-day riding on a touring machine, you can't beat the HD Road Zepplin air seat (now if they could only heat that bad boy.))
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I agree that the SESG seat is comfortable. I have a LR as well and ride a solo Mustang. I like that seat as well.
I haven't noticed any gap yet but can see how it might happen. What do the dealers do to "fix it"?
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I have to agree the stock SESG seat a verycomfortable seat. I did a 360 mile day trip on the SESG and the only thing I wished I would have had was a back rest. I've since added the SESG back rest and am very happy. Dealer took care of the gap issue and I'm a happy camper now. For what Corbin charges for their seats, it's not worth changing, IMO. (And yes, I have ridden with a Corbin saddle before...they don't impress me, actually like the Mustangs better, and for all-day riding on a touring machine, you can't beat the HD Road Zepplin air seat (now if they could only heat that bad boy.))
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What did your dealer do to fix the seat issue?
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What did your dealer do to fix the seat issue?
The tech took the chrome tang on the back of the seat that attaches to the fender and moved it out about a 1/2" and remounted it to the seat. This drives the seat further up on to the tank and closes the gap....it worked on mine...no gap issue now.
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The tech took the chrome tang on the back of the seat that attaches to the fender and moved it out about a 1/2" and remounted it to the seat. This drives the seat further up on to the tank and closes the gap....it worked on mine...no gap issue now.
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For taller riders wouldn't this just make for a more uncomfortable riding position? I'm already looking to move my floor boards forward somewhat and I'm only 6'0" on a good day.
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For taller riders wouldn't this just make for a more uncomfortable riding position? I'm already looking to move my floor boards forward somewhat and I'm only 6'0" on a good day.
I'm 6'4" on pretty much everyday and close to 3 bucks in weight. I sensed no difference in ride position at all. :2vrolijk_21:
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Went to pick up my SESG today (Teq Sun). Had a meeting with the Service Manager and brought him to this thread.
He took the bike back and put the clutch on a pressurized bleeding system. It was full of air. He had the service guys bring all of the CVO's back for the same test.
He has me registered with MoCo for a new seat when the new production seats come out. My gap is already over an inch with nobody sitting on the bike.
I rode home and the bike is a real winner in comfort and speed. It will give my 05 SEFB a good run for it's money while still stock. When I did get home I was installing a Gremlin bell and noticed something.. The right side running board, front bolt was hanging by two threads. The running board was about to fall off.
I went over the rest of the bike checking as much as I could but it will be going back for another check up.
I came here to thank you guys for the heads up. I may have not gotten too far down the road before the clutch mucked up my ride.
I appreciate all the info... Thanks Guys!!
-dave
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Went to pick up my SESG today (Teq Sun). Had a meeting with the Service Manager and brought him to this thread.
He took the bike back and put the clutch on a pressurized bleeding system. It was full of air. He had the service guys bring all of the CVO's back for the same test.
He has me registered with MoCo for a new seat when the new production seats come out. My gap is already over an inch with nobody sitting on the bike.
I rode home and the bike is a real winner in comfort and speed. It will give my 05 SEFB a good run for it's money while still stock. When I did get home I was installing a Gremlin bell and noticed something.. The right side running board, front bolt was hanging by two threads. The running board was about to fall off.
I went over the rest of the bike checking as much as I could but it will be going back for another check up.
I came here to thank you guys for the heads up. I may have not gotten too far down the road before the clutch mucked up my ride.
I appreciate all the info... Thanks Guys!!
-dave
I pick up mine around Thanksgiving and will communicate the clutch issue to service so as to avoid any problems-I have a 100mi plus ride home. I've also mentioned to the wife that I'll be taking a good bit of time to "look over" the bike prior to rolling out. That first ride should be enjoyable not a hunt for problems ???
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I pick up mine around Thanksgiving and will communicate the clutch issue to service so as to avoid any problems-I have a 100mi plus ride home. I've also mentioned to the wife that I'll be taking a good bit of time to "look over" the bike prior to rolling out. That first ride should be enjoyable not a hunt for problems ???
Please look over my earlier post in this thread. In my experience with my 2010 CVO Street Glide, there are LOTS of bolts and nuts that are either loose or not torqued to spec.....
Regards
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Please look over my earlier post in this thread. In my experience with my 2010 CVO Street Glide, there are LOTS of bolts and nuts that are either loose or not torqued to spec.....
Regards
For what it's worth...my clutch was fine from day one. Nothing's loose or fallen off. Rides great.
I did have the hazy headlight issue and my seat is a problem like everyone else's. Perhaps dealer prep makes the difference, eh?
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Please look over my earlier post in this thread. In my experience with my 2010 CVO Street Glide, there are LOTS of bolts and nuts that are either loose or not torqued to spec.....
Regards
Thanks, I remember reading it the first time around. I plan on giving it the complete inspection and a good wrenching the first chance I get. It will give me a chance to get to know her ;)
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Went to pick up my SESG today (Teq Sun). Had a meeting with the Service Manager and brought him to this thread.
He took the bike back and put the clutch on a pressurized bleeding system. It was full of air. He had the service guys bring all of the CVO's back for the same test.
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-dave
It is totally amazing to me that the MoCo can't get a simple thing like this right after 6 years of installing hydraulic clutches on these bikes. Gives you the idea that they didn't bother to spend a little money for a proper evacuate and fill system for the clutch, and they just have some guy with a can of brake fluid filling them by hand. Probably the same guy who doesn't bother tightening all those fasteners to specification either. I wouldn't be surprised to find them using battery powered screw shooters to assemble the bikes, rather than proper torque controlled tooling. The sooner H-D puts the CVO's on the regular assembly line the better.
Jerry
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Here is a list of the problems with my sesg. The inner fairing has a chip where the fairing and the gas tank met and there was also a chip in the gas tank. That was found on inspection when the bike arrived at the dealership. Then after I got home that same day and was looking the bike over some more I found a run in the paint on the front of the fairing. I then took it back to the dealership for them to look at it and they called Harley and the guys at harley wanted to know if it fell into their certain guidelines and the guy at the dealership told harley that he had no way of knowing if it did or did not fall with in their guidelines he told them that I paid good money for the bike and that this was a part that need to be replaced and they told him that they would have to talk about it and get back with him on it. the dealership told them to just forget talking about it and just send the part that the dealership would pay for it that they was not going to have an unhappy customer over some thing that harley should have already seen before it left the factory. So I know that the only dealership that I will ever have any dealings with from now on is Knoxville Harley Davidson and to also let you know that they are a MSRP dealership. Oh yeah I almost forgot to mention that the gas lid does rattle too.
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Here is a list of the problems with my sesg. The inner fairing has a chip where the fairing and the gas tank met and there was also a chip in the gas tank. That was found on inspection when the bike arrived at the dealership. Then after I got home that same day and was looking the bike over some more I found a run in the paint on the front of the fairing. I then took it back to the dealership for them to look at it and they called Harley and the guys at harley wanted to know if it fell into their certain guidelines and the guy at the dealership told harley that he had no way of knowing if it did or did not fall with in their guidelines he told them that I paid good money for the bike and that this was a part that need to be replaced and they told him that they would have to talk about it and get back with him on it. the dealership told them to just forget talking about it and just send the part that the dealership would pay for it that they was not going to have an unhappy customer over some thing that harley should have already seen before it left the factory. So I know that the only dealership that I will ever have any dealings with from now on is Knoxville Harley Davidson and to also let you know that they are a MSRP dealership. Oh yeah I almost forgot to mention that the gas lid does rattle too.
What color is your SESG?
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Sorry Tequilla Sunrise will try to post pics
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Are the clutch problems new for this year? Looking at many of the threads I do not see any mention of this particular issue since going to the hydraulic clutch.
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I'm also curious as to whether the clutch issue is part of dealer prep or if these should be coming out of York already fully bled?
Would seem like an easy problem to remedy... but a PITA when you get the bike.
Have a friend who when he received his CVO Springer had to bleed the clutch a few times before it was set... he hasn't had an issue since.. that was a couple of years ago.
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I am on my fourth bike with Hydro Clutch...this (the SESG) is the first that needed to be Bled...my guess, it is a manufacturing issue. Right from delivery, it would grab immediately whe the handle was moved away from the grip. The CUSE grabs maybe an inch off the grip.
/Bill
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Are the clutch problems new for this year? Looking at many of the threads I do not see any mention of this particular issue since going to the hydraulic clutch.
I'm also curious as to whether the clutch issue is part of dealer prep or if these should be coming out of York already fully bled?
Would seem like an easy problem to remedy... but a PITA when you get the bike.
Have a friend who when he received his CVO Springer had to bleed the clutch a few times before it was set... he hasn't had an issue since.. that was a couple of years ago.
No, the clutch problem has been around as long as H-D has been installing them on the CVO's. It's not every bike, but there have been reports every year of the same problem of air in the lines. It may not be spelled out in the posts as such, because not everyone knows what is causing their creeping and shifting issues, but the root cause is air in the lines. Thankfully H-D seems to be able to do a little better job filling the brake systems.
This is the responsibility of the assembly plant, just like the filling of the brake hydraulic systems. Prep is supposed to check fluid levels and look for obvious leaks, but dealer prep isn't meant to catch and fix all the stuff H-D fails to do properly. I would only expect dealer prep to catch this if in fact they found a problem on the road test that is supposed to be part of the prep.
Jerry
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Appreciate the explanation Jerry-thanks. Hey, I noticed you are from NW Indiana-last three years of high school (many years ago) I lived on Calumet City IL.
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3,000 miles & no parts have fallen off yet.Clutch works good bike runs great.Only issue is the seat fit. :) ;D
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Just got mine back from the 1K service and the Clutch now is just like my ultra.
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My 2010 SESG has less top end noise than any of my previous 12 Harley's, which includes my 2007 SE Ultra with the 110.
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Mines got a tick that sounds like a lifter maybe.Between 2000 & 2100 RPMS in 3rd & 4th gear.Don't know if it just started or I just noticed it.Haven't had the tech put his ear on it yet.Friends 110 is acting the same way.
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Still working on my break in today... rode about 250 miles in the N Georgia mtn's. Perfect for the variation of RPM's.
The stock pipes really let me hear everything. During some of the higher revs I could hear a very faint tick but nothing like any of my other Harley's. Quiet as a house mouse.
This SESG, man, what a machine. Great power stock and that new frame, wow.
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Mine has the seat issue haven't notified the dealer yet, The dealer cautioned me at delivery about possible air in the clutch but 500 miles so far it hasn't developed any issues.
I am having an issue with the throttle not returning to idle when released usually when riding around 2800 rpm. Acts like cruise on but it isn't a manual return is necessary to get deceleration.
Other than that
SWEEEET
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Is the moco doing anything to correct these issues on the newer bikes coming out of the factory?
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Is the moco doing anything to correct these issues on the newer bikes coming out of the factory?
Not sure the Dali Lama has the answer to that one. :-\ spyder
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Mine has the seat issue haven't notified the dealer yet, The dealer cautioned me at delivery about possible air in the clutch but 500 miles so far it hasn't developed any issues.
I am having an issue with the throttle not returning to idle when released usually when riding around 2800 rpm. Acts like cruise on but it isn't a manual return is necessary to get deceleration.
Other than that
SWEEEET
Susan (WasJons) is having that problem on her 2010 regular Street Glide.
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>:( :confused5:
Well, I just turned 1500 on my 2010 SESG and the stock seat has pulled away from the tank. It actually can be popped off the ancoring tongue with a slight lift from the side. As with all others, this really pis--- me off. I haven't had a chance to speak with my dealer but you can bet I will soon. I let you all know what the response is to the problem.
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>:( :confused5:
Well, I just turned 1500 on my 2010 SESG and the stock seat has pulled away from the tank. It actually can be popped off the ancoring tongue with a slight lift from the side. As with all others, this really pis--- me off. I haven't had a chance to speak with my dealer but you can bet I will soon. I let you all know what the response is to the problem.
I liked the simplicity that one member received from his dealer......repositioning rear hold down bracket outward from the seat. I am wondering if there isn't a front tab that is longer on earlier or different models that will fix this issue permanently as well.
Regards
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Almost all seats I have ever had or seen have a metal tongue as part of the pan and it slides into a slot that is part of the frame to secure the front. The seat on this SESG has a tongue of metal coming from the rear area of the tank that slips into a slot in the pan. Absurd arragement. Very flimsy. I am really burned up about this given that I laid out 35K for this bike.
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Is the moco doing anything to correct these issues on the newer bikes coming out of the factory?
Right after I stop laughing, I'll throw out my 2 cents on the subject.
Ok, I think I've got it under control now. Let's take the clutch issue first. CVO's have been having the air in the system problem since the MoCo first started installing the hydraulic clutches over 6 years ago. So obviously the answer to your question as it applies to the clutch issues is NO. Then we take the seat issue. This issue is a carryover from the problems they had on the 2009 SERG seats, so once again I would have to say the answer to your question, at least so far, is NO. If they had taken the issue seriously on the SERG, you really shouldn't be seeing it on the SESG. As we are fond of saying around here, this ain't rocket science, H-D just finds ways to make it seem like it is.
Jerry
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Yea, like the same way they wont replace my fuel pump that keeps stranding me cause after it resets, then it works fine!
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Was walking through a nearby HD dealership with a T-shirt that I'd bought for a buddy when I saw it...a brand new 2010 CVO Street Glide with a tequila sunrise paint job...it was love at first sight!!! I had to have that bike. A couple of days and many dollars later, it was mine! I live in MN and the riding season is coming to an end although it's been sunny and in the low 50s for the last week. I took the bike out for a 100 mile ride and loved every minute of it! Absolutely amazing, absolutely beautiful! Toward the end of the ride I was stopped at a stoplight waiting for the green and noticed a strange "clacking" sound that seemed to be coming from the left hand side of the engine, down near the front, behind the primary maybe. A tech listened to it and thought it might have been a problem with the self adjusting primary chain tensioner. After taking a look at it, the tech decided the tensioner was working fine and told me that he would call HD. HD told him that they are aware of the noise that quite a few of the 110 Screaming Eagles are making and that they don't quite know what it is yet. I read this thread, and saw a couple references to the "clacking" noise. Sure would appreciate feedback from others that are noticing the noise...what is it...what can be done about it...what's the deal?
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I have the same bike turned 900 miles today no clacking noise. You would hope they would give you a better answer than that? I hope it turns out to be something simple! :nixweiss:
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Was walking through a nearby HD dealership with a T-shirt that I'd bought for a buddy when I saw it...a brand new 2010 CVO Street Glide with a tequila sunrise paint job...it was love at first sight!!! I had to have that bike. A couple of days and many dollars later, it was mine! I live in MN and the riding season is coming to an end although it's been sunny and in the low 50s for the last week. I took the bike out for a 100 mile ride and loved every minute of it! Absolutely amazing, absolutely beautiful! Toward the end of the ride I was stopped at a stoplight waiting for the green and noticed a strange "clacking" sound that seemed to be coming from the left hand side of the engine, down near the front, behind the primary maybe. A tech listened to it and thought it might have been a problem with the self adjusting primary chain tensioner. After taking a look at it, the tech decided the tensioner was working fine and told me that he would call HD. HD told him that they are aware of the noise that quite a few of the 110 Screaming Eagles are making and that they don't quite know what it is yet. I read this thread, and saw a couple references to the "clacking" noise. Sure would appreciate feedback from others that are noticing the noise...what is it...what can be done about it...what's the deal?
My 09 flhtcuse4 has it...sounds awful, especially when cold...the primary fluid smelled funny when I changed it too...7k miles and I guess I'll wait til it breaks cause the dealer just shrugged..
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Stopped into Hoosier HD today talked to the service rep about the throttle sticking. They brought it straight into the shop and in 5 minutes I had it back.
Just needed to be properly adjusted. Great service!
This is not my selling dealer BTW
Still waiting for an answer on the stock seat from Harley through the selling dealer.
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Got the seat problem and reported it to the dealer on day 2 :sauer005:
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Myko-
Have you heard anything different?
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Got the seat problem and reported it to the dealer on day 2 :sauer005:
Sucks but expected I am sure they are made to the wrong spec. You'd think since the SERG has had it for 2 years now that the braniacs would figure out it needs to be longer??? :oops:
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yeah you would think
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Have you heard anything different?
Hoping to hear from the dealer today, if not I'll call the service manager and see what happened when he called.
--Mike
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I liked the simplicity that one member received from his dealer......repositioning rear hold down bracket outward from the seat. I am wondering if there isn't a front tab that is longer on earlier or different models that will fix this issue permanently as well.
Regards
The simple solution would be to make them to correct length as they do the regular Seats?
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Hi Everyone
I am a new member and a first time poster, I have purchased a few new Harleys in my day. The best news is that i got a big bag-o-cash and i want my next bike to be a SESG, not sure of the color yet. The big question is going to target the 110 cu motor, can it be trusted? I read so much about leaks and what i find crazy! The crank and flywheel issues, all the years of practice and still so many problems. I went to my local dealer and they are getting 2 in the second week of December and i want one of them!!
Tony A.K.A. Stinky
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Hi Everyone
I am a new member and a first time poster, I have purchased a few new Harleys in my day. The best news is that i got a big bag-o-cash and i want my next bike to be a SESG, not sure of the color yet. The big question is going to target the 110 cu motor, can it be trusted? I read so much about leaks and what i find crazy! The crank and flywheel issues, all the years of practice and still so many problems. I went to my local dealer and they are getting 2 in the second week of December and i want one of them!!
Tony A.K.A. Stinky
Stinky,
First off welcome to the site glad to have you join us.... When you get a chance you should go to this board - New Member Introduction (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php/board,30.0.html) and start a thread to introduce yourself.
Since this will not be your first Harley you should know like the rest of us repeat buyers that Harley's have pretty much had some inherent problems (not all have them... but not everyone hits the lottery... it's a gamble) in all models... whether they be small or large some issue has had to been addressed. Question is do you want to deal with them.... Good thing about this site and others like it is the information is out there so we all will know what they are and then decide if we want to take the chance and have to end up dealing with them or get ahead of the game and correct them before they bite us. The better question to ask yourself is do you want to take care of some of the issues that have been noted before they happen to you or are you a gambler and want to wait until they happen to you... or not. :nixweiss:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
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Fired00d
Thanks, i have read alot here and will be ready but i'm more interested in the 110 cu motor and weather after a number of years they got it tweaked. I will hit the dealer well informed thanks to all the fine information here and in the next week i will learn more. My first new Harley was a Shovel FXWG and my last was an 88 Evo Road King(2nd King), Never had a 96in and i'm thinking the 110 would just be over the top!
Tony A.K.A. Stinky
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AKA Stinky, in my opinion, the current models have very few problems compared to the models of your 'shovel' era. And, the best part, is the longevity of the current motors compared to the shovels. You'll love the new scooter. :-* har! spyder
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Fired00d
Thanks, i have read alot here and will be ready but i'm more interested in the 110 cu motor and weather after a number of years they got it tweaked. I will hit the dealer well informed thanks to all the fine information here and in the next week i will learn more. My first new Harley was a Shovel FXWG and my last was an 88 Evo Road King(2nd King), Never had a 96in and i'm thinking the 110 would just be over the top!
Tony A.K.A. Stinky
Tweaked??? Maybe, maybe not :nixweiss:.... better... I hope so. :-\ It's always a gamble when buying something mechanically (or most anything these days). You'll just have to decide if you want it bad enough, and decide what will be "enough" and it's time to walk away from it if it happens to get to that point. In any regards... Good luck on whatever you decide. :2vrolijk_21:
:pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
:fireman:
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I just got my SESG and the rear right shock is leaking fluid. Not like Japanese company to let some like that happen. I will be curious to se how long that takes to get in stock. Of course I noticed it when I was putting on the BUB true duals and PC-V. Oh well....I am riding anyway:)
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I just got my SESG and the rear right shock is leaking fluid. Not like Japanese company to let some like that happen. I will be curious to se how long that takes to get in stock. Of course I noticed it when I was putting on the BUB true duals and PC-V. Oh well....I am riding anyway:)
Not much consolation to you but I think that's a first for the SESG. :nixweiss:
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While in a local dealer yesterday took a look at both the SESG's on their showroom floor. Both have the seat issue and the dealer's service staff said they have exchanged 3 seats under warranty so far.
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I had my left rear shock replaced after it leaked out all the oil onto the garage floor. It was on back order for about two monts
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I had my left rear shock replaced after it leaked out all the oil onto the garage floor. It was on back order for about two monts
Did they at least provide loaner shocks? :nixweiss:
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No loaner shocks. I rode it like it was. It rode ok I road it solo. And road my 09 Vmax some.
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Hoping to hear from the dealer today, if not I'll call the service manager and see what happened when he called.
--Mike
Dealer heard back from the factory and what the Service Manager sez is that the MoCo told him that they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. He also has another customer with an '09 SERG who is making the same complaint on the seat and the response was the same for both bikes and that they do not have a fix currently out for the dealers. They said they would take his fix of providing support above the battery but that to just basically hold tight while they work it out.
I'll see the SM again tomorrow and ask him what am I supposed to do in the meantime.. I don't want him putting in his fix as it may not work with the Corbin I'm waiting for anyway..
Just wanted to report this back to the thread.
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Dealer heard back from the factory and what the Service Manager sez is that the MoCo told him that they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. He also has another customer with an '09 SERG who is making the same complaint on the seat and the response was the same for both bikes and that they do not have a fix currently out for the dealers. They said they would take his fix of providing support above the battery but that to just basically hold tight while they work it out.
I'll see the SM again tomorrow and ask him what am I supposed to do in the meantime.. I don't want him putting in his fix as it may not work with the Corbin I'm waiting for anyway..
Just wanted to report this back to the thread.
The Corbin should fit fine. Their seat pan is much stiffer that the factory unit so there will be no flex.
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The Corbin should fit fine. Their seat pan is much stiffer that the factory unit so there will be no flex.
Understood. What I meant was that I don't want him creating a support on the frame above the battery to keep the seat from dipping into the cavity since I'm dumping the stock seat anyway.
How does the MoCo fix this? replace the seat with a longer tongue or strengthen the pan... my guys fix is to support the wimp pan by making a support on the frame to keep it from dipping.
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Understood. What I meant was that I don't want him creating a support on the frame above the battery to keep the seat from dipping into the cavity since I'm dumping the stock seat anyway.
How does the MoCo fix this? replace the seat with a longer tongue or strengthen the pan... my guys fix is to support the wimp pan by making a support on the frame to keep it from dipping.
I'm with you Myko.....that doesn't sound like a solution....sounds pretty much Joe Magee to me. :nixweiss:
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Understood. What I meant was that I don't want him creating a support on the frame above the battery to keep the seat from dipping into the cavity since I'm dumping the stock seat anyway.
How does the MoCo fix this? replace the seat with a longer tongue or strengthen the pan... my guys fix is to support the wimp pan by making a support on the frame to keep it from dipping.
Yours may be different from mine but on mine that will not fix it. The seat only just touches the tip of the console at best. There is no overlap of the chrome console. Both my other seats overlap the console by 1.5 to 2 inches.
Personally I think the "give" is what makes this seat more comfortable. your dealers proposed "fix" does not address the seat and will likely make the seat uncomfortably stiffer. Changing the bike to fit the seat is a kind of backwards approach.
IF they made the seat 2" longer at the nose problem solved.
I do not plan on using this seat either but i want it made right on principle. Also for the next owner whenever that is.
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Dealer heard back from the factory and what the Service Manager sez is that the MoCo told him that they are aware of the problem and are working on a fix. He also has another customer with an '09 SERG who is making the same complaint on the seat and the response was the same for both bikes and that they do not have a fix currently out for the dealers. They said they would take his fix of providing support above the battery but that to just basically hold tight while they work it out.
I'll see the SM again tomorrow and ask him what am I supposed to do in the meantime.. I don't want him putting in his fix as it may not work with the Corbin I'm waiting for anyway..
Just wanted to report this back to the thread.
Here is my take on this whole seat issue.... bet you have departments arguing over who is to fault on this.. the design team wants a short low cut seat that does not extend like the standard seat on the street/road- glides... and they telling the engineering department to make it work and the engineering department is saying just make it longer... so they come back and say that is not the style they want... all while the bean counters are saying make it as cost effective (cheap) a fix as you can... so then they start going back and forth again on how to keep the style in the design department while the enginneering department tells them how to design it and so on it goes... and nothing gets done.... 3 4 or maybe 5 departments arguing while nothing gets done....
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Personally I think the "give" is what makes this seat more comfortable. your dealers proposed "fix" does not address the seat and will likely make the seat uncomfortably stiffer. Changing the bike to fit the seat is a kind of backwards approach.
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I do not plan on using this seat either but i want it made right on principle. Also for the next owner whenever that is.
Complete agreement! our problems are the same, mile by mile, the seat fails to regain it's last position.
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I guess we can add the recall for tank/frame to the list.
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I guess we can add the recall for tank/frame to the list.
Did you receive a recall letter? I have not received a letter (yet) SESG-Spiced Rum...
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Well unfortunately I just experienced some new issues with the paint on my Candy Concord 2010 CVO Street Glide.
1. The left rear lower saddlebag has gel coat runs under the paint and clearcoat. It will need replacement to make it right.
ALSO, the top left side of the gas tank has a small circular yellowish/rust stain about the size of a pencil eraser that appeared recently. It is under the clear coat as well. I am thinking replacement.
In addition there are 2 circular stains on the top of the fender near the front. They could be finger prints that weren't wiped clean before the paint/primer process. They seem to be the same color as the tank stain and are under the clear coat as well but are larger...about the size of a dime. The fender will need to be replaced as well.
FWIW: My bike is stored inside a heated and air conditioned garage and is kept pristine and waxed.
It has just over 1k miles on it and is barely 4 months old.
I plan on making a visit to the dealer in the next week or so and will update this post on the progress or lack thereof. I am not looking forward to a wrestling match over this but maybe it won't happen.
I mention this in case other members may run into the same issues.
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haven't noticed any of these on my Tequila (not sure if I would be able to see rust regardless) but appreciate the heads up!!
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Got my love letter from MOCO about the tank fix. My SESG was already at my dealer for new tank and seat. I talked with the SM and they had yet to receive the parts for the fix and did not know when they would get them. Sure glad it's 5 degrees outside.
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Got the recall on mine last week.I'll try not to have a headon bad enough to bend the frame 'till I get back home & have it fixed.
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Was walking through a nearby HD dealership with a T-shirt that I'd bought for a buddy when I saw it...a brand new 2010 CVO Street Glide with a tequila sunrise paint job...it was love at first sight!!! I had to have that bike. A couple of days and many dollars later, it was mine! I live in MN and the riding season is coming to an end although it's been sunny and in the low 50s for the last week. I took the bike out for a 100 mile ride and loved every minute of it! Absolutely amazing, absolutely beautiful! Toward the end of the ride I was stopped at a stoplight waiting for the green and noticed a strange "clacking" sound that seemed to be coming from the left hand side of the engine, down near the front, behind the primary maybe. A tech listened to it and thought it might have been a problem with the self adjusting primary chain tensioner. After taking a look at it, the tech decided the tensioner was working fine and told me that he would call HD. HD told him that they are aware of the noise that quite a few of the 110 Screaming Eagles are making and that they don't quite know what it is yet. I read this thread, and saw a couple references to the "clacking" noise. Sure would appreciate feedback from others that are noticing the noise...what is it...what can be done about it...what's the deal? I had that issue many years ago on an 89 HD, when I pulled the primary cover, the compensating nut was loose and about ready to come off. Not sure if your tech checked the nut, it takes a big socket which he should have.
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Corbin and 240 Performance Machine
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Corbin and 240 Performance Machine
Not sure what this has to do with problems or issues of the 2010 Screamin Eagle Street Glide? Did you post on the wrong board maybe? :nixweiss:
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Well unfortunately I just experienced some new issues with the paint on my Candy Concord 2010 CVO Street Glide.
1. The left rear lower saddlebag has gel coat runs under the paint and clearcoat. It will need replacement to make it right.
ALSO, the top left side of the gas tank has a small circular yellowish/rust stain about the size of a pencil eraser that appeared recently. It is under the clear coat as well. I am thinking replacement.
In addition there are 2 circular stains on the top of the fender near the front. They could be finger prints that weren't wiped clean before the paint/primer process. They seem to be the same color as the tank stain and are under the clear coat as well but are larger...about the size of a dime. The fender will need to be replaced as well.
FWIW: My bike is stored inside a heated and air conditioned garage and is kept pristine and waxed.
It has just over 1k miles on it and is barely 4 months old.
I plan on making a visit to the dealer in the next week or so and will update this post on the progress or lack thereof. I am not looking forward to a wrestling match over this but maybe it won't happen.
I mention this in case other members may run into the same issues.
2/16-- I just got back from the dealer and the factory rep agreed with me and had them order the parts. They wanted me to know that it may take awhile though--3 weeks up to 2 months. I don't care I am on record and can now wait it out.
I'll let everyone know when the job is completed.
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2/16-- I just got back form the dealer and the factory rep agreed with me and had them order the parts. They wanted me to know that it may take awhile though--3 weeks up to 2 months. I don't care I am on record and can now wait it out.
I'll let everyone know when the job is completed.
Well today is 3/9 just over 2 weeks later and I just returned from the dealer and having the above replacement parts installed.
Everything came out perfect.
So now I can go back to enjoying this fabulous bike and the spring weather that just arrived this week.
THANKS HARLEY-DAVIDSON for stepping up and doing your usual GREAT JOB!!!
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Well today is 3/9 just over 2 weeks later and I just returned from the dealer and having the above replacement parts installed.
Everything came out perfect.
So now I can go back to enjoying this fabulous bike and the spring weather that just arrived this week.
THANKS HARLEY-DAVIDSON for stepping up and doing your usual GREAT JOB!!!
Now that's good news and much faster than you were thinking (and faster than I've ever heard of CVO paint being replaced!). :2vrolijk_21:
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kudos all around. :2vrolijk_20: :thumbup: :huepfenpinkie: :beerchug: har. spyder
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Can anyone post a copy of the recall notice? I've heard nothing from my dealer on this. Thanks.
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Can anyone post a copy of the recall notice? I've heard nothing from my dealer on this. Thanks.
Mike... Click Here (http://www.harley-davidson.com/wcm/Content/Pages/Owners/service_checkup.jsp?locale=en_US&bmLocale=en_US) and enter your vin #. It will tell you if your bike has the tank recall. I've got a copy but it is too big to attach. PM your email addy and I'll shoot you this faded copy.
I took mine in for the 1K yesterday and the SM said my SESG wasn't a part of it, computer didn't print out the SB for my vin. Uhhhh, no... try again. Yep, he found it. I guess HD is having issues with their computer software. Wonder if it was the same guy that designed the seat?
Also, for you guys that have sticking throttles. I could use mine like cruise as well. Just loosen the screws for the switch cover and the two screws that clamp the master cylinder on, wiggle the throttle and switch cover back a click, re-tighten. My guess is the builder smacked it his palm before tightening it all up. It forced the end of the handlebar to rub the bottom of the grip. Fixed mine right up.
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Thanks, looks like I may be good as nothing popped up but the service schedule for the 1,000 mile service. I have 9 miles on my bike right now; still winter here :(
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I placed all the issue I could catch from the posts on one sheet, hope this helps. I didn't know all the resolutions though.
I'm going to use it to check my bike, if anyone can place this somewhere so we can add to it...
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Copy and paste works great...........
However, it's not to say that we've all had all these issues. I'm more inclined to believe that it's not even the majority of SESG owners. I haven't had any of the issues listed. But then again, I've got 10k miles on a six month old bike......maybe I'm spending to much time riding and not enough time looking at it. :nixweiss:
Seat gap at tank Replace seat, extend mounting tab
Clutch Bleed system
Paint flaws Replace parts
Fairing gasket seal to short Replace gasket/remount
Speaker connector loose Tighten properly
Loose bolts/Improper torque Check all fasteners
Shock leaking oil Replace shock
Fork leaking oil Replace seals
Fuel lid rattle Replace with locking lid
2 piece Eagle on tank Replace tank
Ambient air guage not working
Primary oil leak Replace seal
Left turn signal short
High oil pressure
Haze in headlight
Clacking noise
Throttle sticking
Seat does not line up with adjustable riders backrest Replace seat
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Looks like pretty much any HD punch list... ;)
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Either way, it's a great list of things to look over on your bike to make sure that things are the way they should be. Thanks for the list :2vrolijk_21:
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Copy and paste works great...........
However, it's not to say that we've all had all these issues. I'm more inclined to believe that it's not even the majority of SESG owners. I haven't had any of the issues listed. But then again, I've got 10k miles on a six month old bike......maybe I'm spending to much time riding and not enough time looking at it. :nixweiss:
Seat gap at tank Replace seat, extend mounting tab
Clutch Bleed system
Paint flaws Replace parts
Fairing gasket seal to short Replace gasket/remount
Speaker connector loose Tighten properly
Loose bolts/Improper torque Check all fasteners
Shock leaking oil Replace shock
Fork leaking oil Replace seals
Fuel lid rattle Replace with locking lid
2 piece Eagle on tank Replace tank
Ambient air guage not working
Primary oil leak Replace seal
Left turn signal short
High oil pressure
Haze in headlight
Clacking noise
Throttle sticking
Seat does not line up with adjustable riders backrest Replace seat
JCZ good job on the summary list. We will need to stay on top of these issues. I forgot to look did you add the brake master cylinder one that just got a bulletin??
ALSO: Did you see my post on the Kurakyn 9182 license tag frame and the voltage drop from the led tag light? It keeps the security key light on constantly on the dash kinda like the swap out for Kury lights.
Regards
Jerry
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JCZ good job on the summary list. We will need to stay on top of these issues. I forgot to look did you add the brake master cylinder one that just got a bulletin??
ALSO: Did you see my post on the Kurakyn 9182 license tag frame and the voltage drop from the led tag light? It keeps the security key light on constantly on the dash kinda like the swap out for Kury lights.
Regards
Jerry
I didnt know Kurakyn 9182 license plate was having that issue. is there a thread on that? I was just about to order one and certainly dont need it messin' with my electrical
thanx
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JCZ good job on the summary list. We will need to stay on top of these issues. I forgot to look did you add the brake master cylinder one that just got a bulletin??
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I missed this bulletin.........is the info here at CVO??
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Looks like pretty much any HD punch list... ;)
Well, actually the punch list has gotten a lot smaller since the flathead, panhead, shovelhead days! You know that first hand, don'tcha Mike! :2vrolijk_21:
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Well, actually the punch list has gotten a lot smaller since the flathead, panhead, shovelhead days! You know that first hand, don'tcha Mike! :2vrolijk_21:
Based on this list I got away clean, I have only had a few of these issues and they have been fixed......Also check to make sure your fairing cover is not contacting your fuel tank!
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Oh yea I do....The flattie runs surprising well for 75 years of age, just have to stay on top of preventive maintenance issues is all.
Future things to go wrong on the new ones..my brakes are now pulsing..wrapped rotors around 7500....anyones else?
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Oh yea I do....The flattie runs surprising well for 75 years of age, just have to stay on top of preventive maintenance issues is all.
Future things to go wrong on the new ones..my brakes are now pulsing..wrapped rotors around 7500....anyones else?
Hey Miker, I guess 'floating rotors' don't really do anything to help the warped rotor problem, do they? :-\ spyder
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JCZ good job on the summary list. We will need to stay on top of these issues. I forgot to look did you add the brake master cylinder one that just got a bulletin??
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I missed this bulletin.........is the info here at CVO??
Here ya go Russ. This maybe what you are looking for?
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=46626
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Here ya go Russ. This maybe what you are looking for?
http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=46626
Thanks Wiz.....I am riding my bike to the dealer (210 miles) for the 1000 mile maintence next week. If it rattles on the way I'll let them know........Russ
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Thanks Wiz.....I am riding my bike to the dealer (210 miles) for the 1000 mile maintence next week. If it rattles on the way I'll let them know........Russ
210 miles......is that round trip? Or are you not using the closest dealership? :nixweiss:
Hope you can make it to Cambria next month. :2vrolijk_21:
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210 miles......is that round trip? Or are you not using the closest dealership? :nixweiss:
Hope you can make it to Cambria next month. :2vrolijk_21:
210 is one way.....30 miles farther than the closer dealer but they didn't have a SESG when I bought mine.
My sweetie is working on changing time off so we can work out the trip next month.....will message you soon.
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Copy and paste works great...........
However, it's not to say that we've all had all these issues. I'm more inclined to believe that it's not even the majority of SESG owners. I haven't had any of the issues listed. But then again, I've got 10k miles on a six month old bike......maybe I'm spending to much time riding and not enough time looking at it. :nixweiss:
Seat gap at tank Replace seat, extend mounting tab
Clutch Bleed system
Paint flaws Replace parts
Fairing gasket seal to short Replace gasket/remount
Speaker connector loose Tighten properly
Loose bolts/Improper torque Check all fasteners
Shock leaking oil Replace shock
Fork leaking oil Replace seals
Fuel lid rattle Replace with locking lid
2 piece Eagle on tank Replace tank
Ambient air guage not working
Primary oil leak Replace seal
Left turn signal short
High oil pressure
Haze in headlight
Clacking noise
Throttle sticking
Seat does not line up with adjustable riders backrest Replace seat
How do you know if the gasket is to short? Where is it suppose to stop at?
Whats this about the short turn signal?
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I read the posts and wrote a list from what I could find so if you go back in the thread you should see what they listed but from what I remember the gasket didn't align correctly and it may have been an incorrect length, I think the turn signal was an electrical issue that the dealer corrected.
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tj, I think the problem with the inner/outer seal (gasket?) is that it was twisted. That's been a problem with the bat wing fairing from time to time since I started riding them in 89. Every now and then I'll hear of somebody or see one that's twisted. If you've washed your bike already (that's usually when we look closer at our bike than any other time) and haven't noticed it, you probably don't have a problem. :2vrolijk_21:
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tj, I think the problem with the inner/outer seal (gasket?) is that it was twisted. That's been a problem with the bat wing fairing from time to time since I started riding them in 89. Every now and then I'll hear of somebody or see one that's twisted. If you've washed your bike already (that's usually when we look closer at our bike than any other time) and haven't noticed it, you probably don't have a problem. :2vrolijk_21:
JCZ:
In my case the weather strip was too short. Also it appears that during assembly there should be some sealent applied to the ends especially at the bottom to keep it from coming loose.
Regards
Jerry
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JCZ:
In my case the weather strip was too short. Also it appears that during assembly there should be some sealent applied to the ends especially at the bottom to keep it from coming loose.
Regards
Jerry
I'm sorry, I missed that Jerry. It's usually that they've twisted.
If they put adhesive on them, then you'd have to buy a new one every time you had to remove it for any reason. However, once they've been crimped on by tightening the inner and outer fairings and in the twisted position, then you usually have to buy a new one anyway.
Not that it's going to make any kind of practical difference.......just that I know it's twisted and so it will not let me alone until I replace it (when that's happened in the past). :huepfenlol2: The truth of the matter is....if the employees on the assembly line took just a little bit more pride in their work, that would be a real easy catch at the time of assembly. :nixweiss:
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Guys, how 'bout a photo or two...
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tj, I think the problem with the inner/outer seal (gasket?) is that it was twisted. That's been a problem with the bat wing fairing from time to time since I started riding them in 89. Every now and then I'll hear of somebody or see one that's twisted. If you've washed your bike already (that's usually when we look closer at our bike than any other time) and haven't noticed it, you probably don't have a problem. :2vrolijk_21:
Thats what happened to mine. I went out and got my own. I dont want the dealer in the fairing unless I have bigger problems
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I'm sorry, I missed that Jerry. It's usually that they've twisted.
If they put adhesive on them, then you'd have to buy a new one every time you had to remove it for any reason. However, once they've been crimped on by tightening the inner and outer fairings and in the twisted position, then you usually have to buy a new one anyway.
Not that it's going to make any kind of practical difference.......just that I know it's twisted and so it will not let me alone until I replace it (when that's happened in the past). :huepfenlol2: The truth of the matter is....if the employees on the assembly line took just a little bit more pride in their work, that would be a real easy catch at the time of assembly. :nixweiss:
JCZ:
They use that soft rubber sealant that's gooey. I agree that more care could be taken but they may also be guilty of trying to save money by cutting the seal too close to the spec and err on the side of short. I think 1" would make a big difference in preventing it from coming loose.
Regards
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I have a problem with my cruise control cutting out and my 6 speed indicator light not coming on. Has anyone else had either of these issues?
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like others have said bleed clutch took all of 5 minutes shifts better easier to find neutral and doesnt try to crawl forward when stopped. no seat gap yet at 700 miles no bumpers.
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I was having some strange clutch issues today. The friction zone seems to be moving around on it, it seemed more all or none than usual, and I had to kill it to get it into neutral when I put it back in my garage this afternoon. I might have the dealer take a look at bleeding it if this persists. Not going into neutral was pissing me off and I was hot from riding with my leather coat on. This ATGATT thing it tough but I'm trying.
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I was having some strange clutch issues today. The friction zone seems to be moving around on it, it seemed more all or none than usual, and I had to kill it to get it into neutral when I put it back in my garage this afternoon. I might have the dealer take a look at bleeding it if this persists. Not going into neutral was pissing me off and I was hot from riding with my leather coat on. This ATGATT thing it tough but I'm trying.
5 minutes a little dot 4 and 1/4 in wrench no dealer needed they told me there all like that so i just did it myself too easy neutral is now a breeze what does atgatt mean
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Are any of these problems listed being addressed with current deliveries?
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5 minutes a little dot 4 and 1/4 in wrench no dealer needed they told me there all like that so i just did it myself too easy neutral is now a breeze what does atgatt mean
Be careful with that dot 4. It will bubble the paint quick. I can wrench on this but I figure it is under warranty so I'll let them deal with it.
All the gear all the time.
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can't get the smile off my face :pepper:
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I was having some strange clutch issues today. The friction zone seems to be moving around on it, it seemed more all or none than usual, and I had to kill it to get it into neutral when I put it back in my garage this afternoon. I might have the dealer take a look at bleeding it if this persists. Not going into neutral was pissing me off and I was hot from riding with my leather coat on. This ATGATT thing it tough but I'm trying.
Yep, sounds like the clutch needs to be bled.
The dealrship will probably bleed it till the first pump or two of the lever with no more air bubbles. And that's where the problem lies. They need to just keep bleeding because after five or six more pumps of the clutch lever, more air will come out. It takes awhile and way past the point of normal bleeding (as in bleeding brakes) for it to be done thoroughly. :2vrolijk_21:
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Yep, sounds like the clutch needs to be bled.
The dealrship will probably bleed it till the first pump or two of the lever with no more air bubbles. And that's where the problem lies. They need to just keep bleeding because after five or six more pumps of the clutch lever, more air will come out. It takes awhile and way past the point of normal bleeding (as in bleeding brakes) for it to be done thoroughly. :2vrolijk_21:
:2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Jerry
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Yep, sounds like the clutch needs to be bled.
The dealrship will probably bleed it till the first pump or two of the lever with no more air bubbles. And that's where the problem lies. They need to just keep bleeding because after five or six more pumps of the clutch lever, more air will come out. It takes awhile and way past the point of normal bleeding (as in bleeding brakes) for it to be done thoroughly. :2vrolijk_21:
Thanks. I did get it out again last evening after my post and I didn't have any of the issues I had before but it wasn't as hot as it was earlier in the day. I wonder if the warmer temps that I road in earlier could have increased the problems with air in the lines.
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Read through this and it might answer the question about the sixth gear light. Doc
http://onlyharley.net/2010_model.pdf
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Thanks. I did get it out again last evening after my post and I didn't have any of the issues I had before but it wasn't as hot as it was earlier in the day. I wonder if the warmer temps that I road in earlier could have increased the problems with air in the lines.
Interesting that you considered that. I thought the same thing after I bled it the first time. Seemed to be fine while it was cool. But a couple days later, when it got hot out.....clutch issues came back. Could have been coincidence....the air could have eventually found it's way back to the top.
When I took it to Jim (hd-dude on this forum), he told me that it's a normal situation on the hydraulic clutches and that you have to bleed it way beyond what you'd normally think is done. I then watched him bleed it over and over and over.
Several times throughout that process, I thought it was done and there wouldn't be anymore air. He'd just keep pumping the lever and twisting and untwisting the bleed screw. Eventually, more air would come up again. I thought he was wasting brake fluid (he topped off the resavoir several times)......but in the end, he knew what he was doing. :2vrolijk_21:
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BLUF: Make sure you really bleed your hydraulic clutch!
You would have to go back to probably August or Septembers threads to see how many people had problems associated with an improperly bled hydraulic clutch, and not just on the SESG. I noticed it on so many peoples bikes that it is on my list of 1st things to do before I ride my bike. There were even a slew of people who said they requested, or even watched the dealer do it, but still had issues. Likely it's because it's not the same as bleeding breaks, and you really have to keep at it. Others have mentioned that HD's not having problems with hydraulic clutches on their other bikes which have had the hydraulic clutch for years, well... CVO's are not built in the same manner as the other production HD bikes.
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I have a problem with my cruise control cutting out and my 6 speed indicator light not coming on. Has anyone else had either of these issues?
An interesting read. Doc
http://onlyharley.net/2010_model.pdf
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Thanks. I did get it out again last evening after my post and I didn't have any of the issues I had before but it wasn't as hot as it was earlier in the day. I wonder if the warmer temps that I road in earlier could have increased the problems with air in the lines.
As all the parts get warmer, you will notice the clutch engagement point will be slightly further from the grip than it is when the parts were cold. That's a normal occurrence, and wouldn't create the issues you mentioned.
What fluids are you running in the primary and the trans? The choices you make for those items will make a difference when things get really hot. If you still have SYN 3 in those holes, I would suggest changing to more appropriate fluids. I've personally experimented with all sort of lubes in the primary over the years, and I currently run Mobil-1 Synthetic Automatic Trans Fluid. Best stuff so far for a smoother operating clutch. Never an issue with neutral, and it even eliminated that clunk the first time I shift into first gear after a cold start. In the trans, I run Redline Shockproof Heavy, but any good gear oil would be an improvement over the motor oil.
Regardless, based on my own personal experience with the hydraulic clutch plus what the other's on this site have mentioned, I would strongly suggest you either have the dealer thoroughly flush the system, or do it yourself.
Jerry
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BLUF: Make sure you really bleed your hydraulic clutch!
You would have to go back to probably August or Septembers threads to see how many people had problems associated with an improperly bled hydraulic clutch, and not just on the SESG. I noticed it on so many peoples bikes that it is on my list of 1st things to do before I ride my bike. There were even a slew of people who said they requested, or even watched the dealer do it, but still had issues. Likely it's because it's not the same as bleeding breaks, and you really have to keep at it. Others have mentioned that HD's not having problems with hydraulic clutches on their other bikes which have had the hydraulic clutch for years, well... CVO's are not built in the same manner as the other production HD bikes.
The only H-D other than the CVO's that has a hydraulic clutch is the V-Rod, if memory serves me correctly. And those bikes are built on an assembly line that is set up for that system. The CVO's, on the other hand, are slapped together in a separate area in the plant that is most likely not equipped with proper evacuate and fill equipment for the clutch.
Brake systems are normally filled in an assembly plant using automated equipment that first draws a vacuum on the system and then pumps fluid in. When done right, this results in no air in the system and no manual bleeding being necessary. I'm willing to bet that you won't find that sort of system for the clutch in the area where these CVO's are assembled.
Jerry
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From some of the minor issues mine has had with loose this and that and the paint flaws I think they might do the CVOs in the broom closet.
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The only H-D other than the CVO's that has a hydraulic clutch is the V-Rod, if memory serves me correctly. And those bikes are built on an assembly line that is set up for that system. The CVO's, on the other hand, are slapped together in a separate area in the plant that is most likely not equipped with proper evacuate and fill equipment for the clutch.
Brake systems are normally filled in an assembly plant using automated equipment that first draws a vacuum on the system and then pumps fluid in. When done right, this results in no air in the system and no manual bleeding being necessary. I'm willing to bet that you won't find that sort of system for the clutch in the area where these CVO's are assembled.
Jerry
:2vrolijk_21: What Jerry said.
I was trying to say something to that extent, but you have definitely defined it better than I could. ;D
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Sapper, when do you come back home?
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The only H-D other than the CVO's that has a hydraulic clutch is the V-Rod, if memory serves me correctly. And those bikes are built on an assembly line that is set up for that system. The CVO's, on the other hand, are slapped together in a separate area in the plant that is most likely not equipped with proper evacuate and fill equipment for the clutch.
Brake systems are normally filled in an assembly plant using automated equipment that first draws a vacuum on the system and then pumps fluid in. When done right, this results in no air in the system and no manual bleeding being necessary. I'm willing to bet that you won't find that sort of system for the clutch in the area where these CVO's are assembled.
Jerry
I believe as of Dec/Jan, CVO's have now been integrated into the standard assembly area. It's believed this will actually improve upon the quality as the CVO's will now go thru all the standard inspections/checks. :2vrolijk_21:
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I started my bike in gear today. I pulled in the clutch and wired for the light to go off. Then when it turned over the bike tried to roll forward a bit. Sound like I need the clutch bled?
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Yes. Do it soon. It will get worse.
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Sapper, when do you come back home?
next month :2vrolijk_21:
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Thanks Doc, I'll have to ask my dealer about this. Still don't understand why my cruise control cuts off every once in a while :nixweiss:
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next month :2vrolijk_21:
your bike still sitting in michigan?
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Never was, I bought it here in WI at Sauk Prairie HD. I'm having the mods done at Pokerville Ironworks by my home in Madison. I've got more faith in the owner of Pokerville who is a bike builder by trade. They've been working on getting the map to where they want it and I should be riding tonight :orange:
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Never was, I bought it here in WI at Sauk Prairie HD. I'm having the mods done at Pokerville Ironworks by my home in Madison. I've got more faith in the owner of Pokerville who is a bike builder by trade. They've been working on getting the map to where they want it and I should be riding tonight :orange:
cool enjoy the ride i was asking sapper if he got his home
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Oops, sorry :-[
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Hey, BadgerMike, would like to talk with you about your tuner folks. I am relatively new to Madison and have a 2010 FLHXSE. Have put a Fullsac header on and CFR cans. I have the TTS and a couple maps from Steve at Fullsac but think the bike should be dynotuned by someone who knows what they are doing.
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I know you aren't talking to me, but Steve at Fullsac knows what he is doing. He is the man. Those maps you got should be about as good as it gets.
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I know you aren't talking to me, but Steve at Fullsac knows what he is doing. He is the man. Those maps you got should be about as good as it gets.
I believe in a dyno tune. Just another man's opinion...
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Dustingaunder,
I agree. Steve knows what he is doing. The problem is I have a setup with 2-3" funneled cores (CFRs) that he has not had any time on a dyno. I am currently running a map he sent me a few days ago but it still is not dialed in.
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Old Harley Dude,
I've used Will up at Pokerville Ironworks in Blue Mounds, WI for all my work. He has a Dyno guy that he uses on the east side of Madison that he swears by. Call up Will at 608-437-2453, or stop by his Trailer at Quaker Steak and Lube on Wednesday nights and tell him I sent you to him. I've got the only 2010 FLHXSE that he's worked on, so he'll know who you're talking about. Otherwise, you can send me an email off line if you want to talk further.
He's a great guy and really will work hard to keep your business.
Mike
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:2vrolijk_21: Thanks Mike. I'll give him a call. OHD
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Has anyone else had problems with the gauge nuts coming loose and falling out of the fairing? I had 3 of them laying in the cover that is just below the fairing above the fork sliders. This piece is the color matched piece I have no clue what it is called. Anyway, I took it in today and they said that there was another one missing and that every single gauge nut was loose. I had them blue loc-tite them all back in place and they replaced the missing nut. I love my dealer, but the people that built my bike have more than pissed me off a little.
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Read through this and it might answer the question about the sixth gear light. Doc
http://onlyharley.net/2010_model.pdf
From the PDF:
•Upgrading to helical 5this Not Retrofitable
–Results of upgrading to the helical 5thgear
•Vehicle Speed slower than indicated by speedometer
•The 6thgear light may not function correctly
•No plan for new calibration
That is a warning against upgrading an earlier transmission to the new 5th gear.
Has anyone gotten any answer on why the 6th gear light works intermittently and the cruise control quits when the light goes out?
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Here's a new one...how about the license frame wires rubbing against the rear tire! That's right, nothing between the wires and the rear tire, found out when I put on the new Kuryakin frame. Classic!
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Here's a new one...how about the license frame wires rubbing against the rear tire! That's right, nothing between the wires and the rear tire, found out when I put on the new Kuryakin frame. Classic!
I can understand that.
I decided that when I did the Kury frame I would reroute the wire over to the right tail light and make a small wiring harness with a zip tie.
I just am not comfortable with the stock wire route as you are/were OR with that cover box with a long screw in it. I have visions of the stud going through my rear tire.
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Read through this and it might answer the question about the sixth gear light. Doc
http://onlyharley.net/2010_model.pdf
They way I read it, it applies to non oem gears or transmissions.
My 6th gear light does not work.
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Just started working (after I started a new thread) while riding into work this morning! I'm gald but would like to know the reason why it self fixed itself!!
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Just started working (after I started a new thread) while riding into work this morning! I'm gald but would like to know the reason why it self fixed itself!!
Before you get too excited, see if it continues to work every time for a significant amount of time, such as weeks or months. It's pretty rare for something to fix itself permanently; much more likely that a poor connection started making better contact due to something moving. If that's the case, and that something moves again, you could be back to square one. Fortunately, it's a pretty simple circuit so tracing it shouldn't be a huge deal, even for a Harley shop.
Jerry
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Before you get too excited, see if it continues to work every time for a significant amount of time, such as weeks or months. It's pretty rare for something to fix itself permanently; much more likely that a poor connection started making better contact due to something moving. If that's the case, and that something moves again, you could be back to square one. Fortunately, it's a pretty simple circuit so tracing it shouldn't be a huge deal, even for a Harley shop.
Jerry
Now Jerry, you know these CVO scooters are MAGIC. Ya just got them negative vibes going and that's only going to inject the reality that'll kill the magic. :drink: har. spyder
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Just started working (after I started a new thread) while riding into work this morning! I'm gald but would like to know the reason why it self fixed itself!!
:nixweiss: You have to ride it fast enough???? :nixweiss:
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My bike is driving me crazy >:( The cruise control cuts out on its own, the 6th gear light goes out at the same time. My left blinker doesn't work, and all the while that we have been going back and forth with the dealer on these issues they NOW inform me that my clutch pin was broken somehow during the 1000k maintenance.
I wonder if any of the other electrical problems have anything to do with some bad wiring in the left side handlebar? The dealer has been blaming all the electical problems on the Power Commander, and Power Commander keeps telling them that there is no way their system can be causing these problems
I just want to ride...
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The short in the left turn signal is a known issue (I had it too)...can't say much about the rest. However, highly unlikely it's the Power Commander.
However, that's why I chose a Pro SERT and had the dealer do the dyno tune. No way to point fingers.
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with all that I have read here about the SESG, I'm glad I held on to my 04. hmmm,,, no issues...what do I do now? ::)
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with all that I have read here about the SESG, I'm glad I held on to my 04. hmmm,,, no issues...what do I do now? ::)
you dont know what you are missing, hands down the best bike ever built by harley, period!
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with all that I have read here about the SESG, I'm glad I held on to my 04. hmmm,,, no issues...what do I do now? ::)
The SESG is a great build/ride. What you're hearing is the "squeeky wheel". Those of us (the vast majority) love the bike and are completely satisfied. This is my wifes and I 5th HD and by far the best. Whatever HD ride folks have I only wish them as much happiness as I get from my SESG. ;D
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Finally got Dynojet to agree to send a new PCV to put in, swapped them out, downloaded the map and still the same problem with the cruise control and 6th speed light >:( Has to be a wiring problem somewhere right?
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Finally got Dynojet to agree to send a new PCV to put in, swapped them out, downloaded the map and still the same problem with the cruise control and 6th speed light >:( Has to be a wiring problem somewhere right?
or by the TTS masertune ;D
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Finally got Dynojet to agree to send a new PCV to put in, swapped them out, downloaded the map and still the same problem with the cruise control and 6th speed light >:( Has to be a wiring problem somewhere right?
Not really there are members having the issue particularly the 6th gear light without any mods. May be an issue in the factory ECM programming.
TTS does have a workaround for the 6th gear light, Not sure where the cruise bug is hiding? sounds like its a warranty issue though to me :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
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with all that I have read here about the SESG, I'm glad I held on to my 04. hmmm,,, no issues...what do I do now? ::)
The 04 is an awesome machine but I'll keep my SESG with its minor issues. This is the best Harley I've ever owned handling is Superior to the 08 frames and they were vastly improved from the earlier models.
Luckily I get a chance to drive them all helping at my neighbors dealership.
Love my SESG no regrets :coolblue: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :coolblue:
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It does sound like a warranty issue to me as well, especially since Dynojet sent me a new PCV to try in the bike and it did the same thing. The left blinker went out last week too, so I'm thinking there is some bad wiring on the left side handlebar that is causing the problem. The weird thing is that the cruise control problem only occurs when the PCV is plugged in, seems to go away when I'm running stock :nixweiss:
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with all that I have read here about the SESG, I'm glad I held on to my 04. hmmm,,, no issues...what do I do now? ::)
Stu, I put a hell of a lot of miles on my blue and black SEEG.....rode it ocean to ocean, to Canada and Mexico. And I was so afraid I was going to have remorse when I bought the SESG that I hung on to my SEEG for awhile (just in case). Let me tell you.......it never got rode again!
My wife asked me a few times........she knew how I felt about my SEEG. I'd tell her each time....."man, I love this bike!". There ain't no looking back, not at all......sad to say, the SEEG doesn't even come close. It felt like the SEEG was a tractor when I took it for service just before selling it.
If you're not ready for a new bike (I wasn't), don't make the mistake that I did.......don't get on an 09 or 10 bagger. You've been warned. :huepfenlol2:
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I've been told that several times and I actually have not been on an 09-10 yet. Believe me, I look at the new SESG and I love the looks and I know i would love the ride and the handling. So that IS why I am staying clear ::) I just can't wait to see yours JC.. Hurry up and get over here.. :-\
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Yea, maybe we'll have to get you on one of those new bikes..............my wife's 09! :huepfenlol2:
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only if she says yes.. or maybe i shouldn't,,,,, :nixweiss:
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Finally got Dynojet to agree to send a new PCV to put in, swapped them out, downloaded the map and still the same problem with the cruise control and 6th speed light >:( Has to be a wiring problem somewhere right?
I'm having the same problem. My 6th gear light and cruise will work for a while, then they both go out at the same time. Cruise won't work in any gear after that. Once I turn the bike off and restart it they both work again, for a little while. The dealer (F&S in Dayton, OH) of course found no problems when I took it in.
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Despite some minor problems it's a great bike. Mine was running great until I left the ignition on and killed the battery. Haven't had a chance to charge it.
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Stu, I put a hell of a lot of miles on my blue and black SEEG.....rode it ocean to ocean, to Canada and Mexico. And I was so afraid I was going to have remorse when I bought the SESG that I hung on to my SEEG for awhile (just in case). Let me tell you.......it never got rode again!
My wife asked me a few times........she knew how I felt about my SEEG. I'd tell her each time....."man, I love this bike!". There ain't no looking back, not at all......sad to say, the SEEG doesn't even come close. It felt like the SEEG was a tractor when I took it for service just before selling it.
If you're not ready for a new bike (I wasn't), don't make the mistake that I did.......don't get on an 09 or 10 bagger. You've been warned. :huepfenlol2:
I have both bikes too JCZ, the 04' blue and black SEEG and now the 10' Spiced Rum SESG and I could not agreed more about the difference in the way they ride. The 04' SEEG does not come close in the way they ride and handle compared to the new SESG. I have not had any more issues with the SESG than I did with the SEEG (remember the chrome peeling off the wheels on the SEEG's in 04'). I'll take the SESG over the SEEG hands down, much better ride no question. And in my opinon the SESG is a much beter bike. I haven't rode the 04' SEEG since I got the 10' SESG.
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I knew tgat was commin' ;D ;D