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Title: 2011
Post by: bbrown on April 14, 2010, 07:31:57 PM
Is it to early to start discussing what the 2011 Screamin eagles will be????  colors???   Models ???  changes???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: dustingaunder on April 14, 2010, 08:01:22 PM
I hope they don't do another Street Glide.  I think an Ultra is almost a given anymore.  I'd like to see a tricked out Wide Glide.  Maybe another Road King and I got a soft spot for the Springers!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: skreminegul07 on April 14, 2010, 08:14:03 PM
OK, I'll be the one:
Watercooled?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: trapperjohn82 on April 14, 2010, 08:14:56 PM
Any predictions when we might see the first Tri-Glide??
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: dustingaunder on April 14, 2010, 08:15:29 PM
I don't think I'd buy a water cooled hog.  I think it'd feel funny.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on April 14, 2010, 09:22:42 PM
I agree, I think an SEUC6 is a given, but with the success of the SESG, I wouldn't be surprised to see an SESG2.  With the Street Glide being the number one seller for HD right now another SESG seems plausible.  As far as the other two, or three, I think a new CVO Dyna Wide Glide would be a good choice with a 240/17 on the rear and a 22" on the front.  As far as the fourth, maybe some new water-cooled or dare I say it, a CVO Sportster or possibly a FLHXXXSE?  :nixweiss:

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hdbrad03 on April 14, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
Bring the FXR Back! :orange: :mango: :apple: :pineapple:



 :bananarock: :bananarock:
      Brad
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on April 14, 2010, 10:07:56 PM
Bring the FXR Back! :orange: :mango: :apple: :pineapple:



 :bananarock: :bananarock:
      Brad


X 2

Good idea Brad!

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Ultra2010 on April 14, 2010, 10:16:11 PM
yep.. it's too early for me to even think about it.  Bastards tossing the mid year in messed me up enough. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew on April 14, 2010, 10:41:41 PM
Road Glide!!!!!!!!!

Mike


Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on April 15, 2010, 04:17:44 AM
as we may expect mayor revisions with the softails I'm pretty certain there will be at least one CVO-sotail  ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on April 15, 2010, 08:06:10 AM
It's not too early for me!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Ghost Rider on April 15, 2010, 10:05:19 AM
Just thinking outside the box, but is it time for another Screamin Eagle V-rod?  Maybe a last ditch effort to boost lagging sales on that model.  :nixweiss:

I would guess that the SEUC and SESG are givens, plus one softail, and a dyna.  Or do they actually cut back on the number of CVO models and do more of the "CVO lites" such as the Ultra Limited from this year.

Too early to guess.   :apple:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 15, 2010, 10:29:36 AM
Screamin' Eagle Servicar.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Boatman on April 15, 2010, 10:44:54 AM
Screamin' Eagle Servicar.

Always thinking outside the box, Don.    :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on April 15, 2010, 10:46:07 AM
I hope they do some cool colors on the SEUC and SESG if those are offered.  It would be nice to see paint graphics like the 04 and 05 SEEGS  
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on April 15, 2010, 11:08:29 AM
SEUC,  "watercooled" and any color but BLACK!!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on April 15, 2010, 11:43:48 AM
No more flames
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Mr. Wizard on April 15, 2010, 12:25:47 PM
OK, I'll be the one:
Watercooled?

Third hand info....

I heard from a guy that rides a 2010 TG. Says he talked to a factory rep about his ride. Rep said they were considering the water cooled concept for the 2012 TG by using the V-Rod motor. Backing that up I had a rep tell me they weren't considering building the TG past 2011 but since they kicked Lehman out of the process who knows.

Anyone's guess is as good as tossing a stick to see what direction they will take but I wouldn't look for a SETG until all the bugs get worked out such as the starter, reverse, trunk water leaks, rear brake wear, power and the heat issues which are worse than the stock SESG and SEUC this year. I"m sure a SETG would be at least 45K or more.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: skreminegul07 on April 15, 2010, 12:27:30 PM
Bring the FXR Back! :orange: :mango: :apple: :pineapple:



 :bananarock: :bananarock:
      Brad

Great idea.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LoneCustom on April 15, 2010, 02:56:05 PM
No more flames

I mostly like the flames, but since the things are (after all) "Screamin' Eagles", how about more with the eagle theme?  (I know they did it with the SESG this year, but...)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on April 15, 2010, 03:02:03 PM
I'm guessing the Ultra is done.  That's why they brought in the Limited.  Street Glide is a given, I think.  Wide Glide would be cool!  Not sure what they would throw in for the 4th?  Rocker?  V-Rod?  Sporty? :nixweiss:

Obviously, I'm making this all up, so it's not even as relevant as rumors, but it's still fun!! :bananarock:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wild Card on April 15, 2010, 03:07:27 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they did something with the Sporty given this economy and all the focus they have paid to that line recently.

Oh, and a Screamin' Eagle Cross Bones!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bill Golightly on April 15, 2010, 04:29:43 PM
Since the MoCo wants us to think they are into "old school" and "nostalgia", how about a rigid frame, kick start, foot clutch, hand shift, 3 gallon tank, redesigned Pan engined bike like my bobber?

Or, maybe not.....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 15, 2010, 05:10:07 PM
Having been away for several days got a chance to talk to our old source on all things future.  That's right; the pool boy.  Willy's brother's cousin's babysitter's girlfriend's aunt's gardner's convenience store clerk's dad who knows the guy who drinks with the bartender for the man who is the pool boy said that it is certain that 2011 will bring the FXRVR2FSE.  That's the new FXR model with 2 front wheels and reverse so it can (only) run circles around the competition :bananarock: !  And, of course, the SE Servicar.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grc on April 15, 2010, 07:16:11 PM
Screamin' Eagle Servicar.

Always thinking outside the box, Don.    :2vrolijk_21:


Try not to encourage him.  That's the same suggestion he's made every year since I joined this site, and so far to the best of my knowledge he hasn't even gotten them to build a regular Servi-Car, much less a Screamin' Eagle version.  Sheesh.


Jerry ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVOfan on April 15, 2010, 09:00:28 PM
Maybe the water cooled idea will catch on.  Then my SE V-Rod would be worth selling again - I would, of course, keep my "air cooled" Amber/Citrus SEUC.   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on April 15, 2010, 10:35:28 PM
I'm guessing the Ultra is done.  That's why they brought in the Limited.  Street Glide is a given, I think.  Wide Glide would be cool!  Not sure what they would throw in for the 4th?  Rocker?  V-Rod?  Sporty? :nixweiss:

Obviously, I'm making this all up, so it's not even as relevant as rumors, but it's still fun!! :bananarock:

Is the Rocker discontinued?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Blazo on April 15, 2010, 11:50:45 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they did something with the Sporty<snip>

I'm thinkin' the XR1200... SEXR12. WE all know that sex sells!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: VANAMAL on April 16, 2010, 12:40:32 AM
i heard from a source that there is going to be a FLH20CVO :bananarock:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 16, 2010, 12:44:44 AM

Try not to encourage him.  That's the same suggestion he's made every year since I joined this site, and so far to the best of my knowledge he hasn't even gotten them to build a regular Servi-Car, much less a Screamin' Eagle version.  Sheesh.


Jerry ;)

At least they finally tried.  Didn't hit the bullseye.  But, hey, it's Harley....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on April 16, 2010, 08:06:50 PM
SE Wide Glide and SE Road Glide with enough metalflake in the colors
that you almost can't look at it in the sunshine. :bananarock:


 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on April 16, 2010, 11:23:11 PM
SE Wide Glide and SE Road Glide with enough metalflake in the colors
that you almost can't look at it in the sunshine. :bananarock:


 :2vrolijk_21:

I'd be really surprised if they bring back the SE Road Glide, the dealers had too many of them left over after they started coming out with the 2010's.   I'm just sayin'  :nixweiss:

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on April 17, 2010, 08:19:01 AM
I'd love to see something close the GhostRider's Red Road King!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on April 17, 2010, 08:56:11 AM
Since the MoCo wants us to think they are into "old school" and "nostalgia", how about a rigid frame, kick start, foot clutch, hand shift, 3 gallon tank, redesigned Pan engined bike like my bobber?

Or, maybe not.....

All that cool chit and they would have to throw a catalytic convertor on it!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: greglyon on April 17, 2010, 09:05:38 AM
Dealer said even in this slow economy streetglides and everything CVO were selling.  I'd look for the 2nd year of the cvo streetglide and given the profit margin on the cvo ultra another year of the Harley accessory catalogue on wheels.   
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on April 17, 2010, 10:02:40 AM
I think that the SESG is a given for 2011.  The MoCo surprised me with coming back with a SEUC for the 4th year in a row, and then another year after that, plus a mid-year version!  So I guess they'll come back again considering how well they sell.  Hopefully we've seen the last of the flames though, JMHO.

I also feel that a CVO Heritage is long overdue.

Watercooled touring bike?  In your dreams!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on April 17, 2010, 10:05:30 AM
Third hand info....

I heard from a guy that rides a 2010 TG. Says he talked to a factory rep about his ride. Rep said they were considering the water cooled concept for the 2012 TG by using the V-Rod motor. Backing that up I had a rep tell me they weren't considering building the TG past 2011 but since they kicked Lehman out of the process   who knows.

Anyone's guess is as good as tossing a stick to see what direction they will take but I wouldn't look for a SETG until all the bugs get worked out such as the starter, reverse, trunk water leaks, rear brake wear, power and the heat issues which are worse than the stock SESG and SEUC this year. I"m sure a SETG would be at least 45K or more.

Did I miss some news? Does Lehman no longer have a deal with the MoCo to produce their Trikes?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Jon Seddon on April 17, 2010, 11:08:47 AM
I'd like to see a Road King CVO and maybe a Springer

Jon
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on April 18, 2010, 02:06:42 AM
@Grizzly:

the Lehman contract was terminated somewhen last year already.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: timo482 on April 18, 2010, 02:35:15 AM
so where are the trikes being produced?

or are we seeing leftovers?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: dankwiz on April 18, 2010, 07:20:29 AM
York
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SERK3 on April 18, 2010, 07:30:19 AM
If i was sure they would bring the SESG back in 2011, and in what colors, Think i would sale my SERK
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tennisman on April 18, 2010, 08:32:00 PM
 :2cr_01: OK...here's my list for 2011:

ADD:
1.  Watercooled heads - bet this would eliminate need for oil cooler!
2.  Bluetooth communications, no more wires to helmets!
3.  Electrically adjustable windshield - or at least as an option
4.  Relocated oil filter for ease of maintenance
5.  Fill plug for primary and level check plug for same
6.  Chrome saddlebag guards similar to standard Ultra but unique design
7.  A QUALITY navigation system (Garmin Zumo or equal)
8.  Revised crankcase breather to eliminate oil carryover to air cleaner (drainback sys or dropout chamber)
9.  Lower seat height by 1-inch

REMOVE:
1.  Garage door opener, leave it as an option
2.  Inner bag liners, leave them as an option
3.  Gold key, leave it as an option

This is a start!!   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 18, 2010, 08:37:32 PM
Do all CVO baggers have garage door openers?  :nixweiss: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: GtreetSlide on April 18, 2010, 08:42:59 PM
converting the Vrod motor to a deisel and a E90 and putting it in a dyna type frame...

 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on April 18, 2010, 08:43:33 PM
Do all CVO baggers have garage door openers?  :nixweiss: spyder

Just the Ultras Spyd....
:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 08:45:56 PM
Do all CVO baggers have garage door openers?  :nixweiss: spyder

Road Glides didn't get them.  Don't think the SERKs did either.  Don't have a clue on the Street Glides though.  Maybe just the SEEGs and the Ultras :nixweiss: ?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 08:46:37 PM
Just the Ultras Spyd....
:devil:

SEEGs led the way :mango: :drink: .
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on April 18, 2010, 08:48:03 PM
Road Glides didn't get them.  Don't think the SERKs did either.  Don't have a clue on the Street Glides though.  Maybe just the SEEGs and the Ultras :nixweiss: ?

SESG doesn't get them either...:(  Would have liked that on my SESG along with XM...
:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on April 18, 2010, 08:49:17 PM
Road Glides didn't get them.  Don't think the SERKs did either.  Don't have a clue on the Street Glides though.  Maybe just the SEEGs and the Ultras :nixweiss: ?


I'm thinking they put the openor's on the best bikes.
Just sayin. . . . . . . .

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on April 18, 2010, 08:49:26 PM
SEEGs led the way :mango: :drink: .
:2vrolijk_21:  SEEG's were trend setters. ;D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sadunbar on April 18, 2010, 08:49:58 PM
:2cr_01: OK...here's my list for 2011:

ADD:
1.  Watercooled heads - bet this would eliminate need for oil cooler!
2.  Bluetooth communications, no more wires to helmets!
3.  Electrically adjustable windshield - or at least as an option
4.  Relocated oil filter for ease of maintenance
5.  Fill plug for primary and level check plug for same
6.  Chrome saddlebag guards similar to standard Ultra but unique design
7.  A QUALITY navigation system (Garmin Zumo or equal)
8.  Revised crankcase breather to eliminate oil carryover to air cleaner (drainback sys or dropout chamber)
9.  Lower seat height by 1-inch
REMOVE:
1.  Garage door opener, leave it as an option
2.  Inner bag liners, leave them as an option
3.  Gold key, leave it as an option

This is a start!!   :2vrolijk_21:

 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 08:50:22 PM
SESG doesn't get them either...:(  Would have liked that on my SESG along with XM...
:devil:

If forced to guess I'd have guessed Mother Harley didn't put them on the SESGs either.  These "come with everything" CVO bikes are hardly that. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on April 18, 2010, 08:56:01 PM
If forced to guess I'd have guessed Mother Harley didn't put them on the SESGs either.  These "come with everything" CVO bikes are hardly that. 


My 01 SERG has one but hell if I know if it came that way!

 :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 08:57:48 PM

My 01 SERG has one but hell if I know if it came that way!

 :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

SBB

Nope, someone beat you to that install.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 18, 2010, 09:01:44 PM
The garage door opener is something (much like the cruise control) that I probably wouldn't have added, but really like on the scooter once it came with it.  Now, the heated grips didn't come on the SEEGs, trend setters or not!  That was a great addition for my ole paws.  ;) har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 09:23:27 PM
The garage door opener is something (much like the cruise control) that I probably wouldn't have added, but really like on the scooter once it came with it.  Now, the heated grips didn't come on the SEEGs, trend setters or not!  That was a great addition for my ole paws.  ;) har.  spyder

Spyder, it's true I haven't gotten a day older, less resilient or in any way diminished from the old hardtail days when pissing blood after 500 miles seemed like some kind of a daily rite; or at least expected.  No, not a bit.  I just like the heated grips, heated saddles, really good saddles, proper bars, actual instruments, honest to god effective brakes, storage enough to avoid having to turn underwear inside out after the third day and throw it away after the fourth and other accoutrements because they're convenient to have around...  8)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 18, 2010, 09:36:59 PM
the old hardtail days when pissing blood after 500 miles seemed like some kind of a daily rite; or at least expected. 
  Yeah, but dang, I always remember taking a couple of days to do 500 miles back then.  :drink: har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 09:38:54 PM
 Yeah, but dang, I always remember taking a couple of days to do 500 miles back then.  :drink: har.  spyder


Told you before you're smarter than I am.  Of course the qualifier we all have to throw in there is "do 500 miles in a day if the bike could stay on the road that far without needing a little work."  :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 18, 2010, 09:43:11 PM

Told you before you're smarter than I am.  Of course the qualifier we all have to throw in there is "do 500 miles in a day if the bike could stay on the road that far without needing a little work."  :huepfenlol2:
Really.  All scooters back then were really 'bar-hoppers'.  ::) JMHO.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 09:50:30 PM
Really.  All scooters back then were really 'bar-hoppers'.  ::) JMHO.  spyder

Amen.  500 mile days happened.  But they were rare.  I can remember during a not-doing-college stretch in my early 20s when most of a couple years was spent riding somewhere west of the Mississippi seeking a little clarity.  Even when there was nothing to do but ride it was hard to cover 2000 miles in a week.  Chains, wheel bearings, self-servicing engines, all the stuff that went with it.  Looking back on them it's hard to believe we actually legitimately made fun of the Triumphs and other Brit bikes we'd see for being broke down even more often than we were.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ultrafxr on April 18, 2010, 09:50:43 PM
The garage door opener is something (much like the cruise control) that I probably wouldn't have added, but really like on the scooter once it came with it.  Now, the heated grips didn't come on the SEEGs, trend setters or not!  That was a great addition for my ole paws.  ;) har.  spyder

A wise man once said that a remote control for your TV is not a necessity - that is until you've had one.  I feel that way about the garage door opener - so much more convenient that having to remember to take the remote from your cage (or paying for an extra one) then finding a 'convenient' place for it on the bike, then being able to get to it easily, etc, etc.  Just flip the light switch and presto your door is open.  Great accessory imo.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 18, 2010, 09:52:33 PM
A wise man once said that a remote control for your TV is not a necessity - that is until you've had one.  I feel that way about the garage door opener - so much more convenient that having to remember to take the remote from your cage (or paying for an extra one) then finding a 'convenient' place for it on the bike, then being able to get to it easily, etc, etc.  Just flip the light switch and presto your door is open.  Great accessory imo.

That's right.  D'uh... it's a safety feature.  Flick a thumb rather than fumbling for a pocket stashed remote.  Has nothing to do with convience.  We can always justify safety.  8)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 18, 2010, 10:00:49 PM
Yeah, Jerry, that's what my windshield bag on the softtail 'special' is best used for......a easily accessed spare garage door remote.  But, not as good as the light switch on the SEEG.  :drink: har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 5.56mm on April 19, 2010, 02:52:09 PM
I would like to see a SE Night train with apes and a fatty!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVORick on April 19, 2010, 07:46:25 PM
Do you think for for $36,000 the MOCO can kiss my A$$ at delivery???  If not, I guess water cooled would be a start.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on April 19, 2010, 08:39:14 PM
Again I say "Watercooled" SEUC, with a GREAT aftermarket seat (Mustang).
Like it was said before, relocate filter, fix the primary filler.
Oh, as long as it's watercooled, might as well tune it for 100 rear wheel hp,
with 100ft/lb of torque starting at 2000 rpm and running thru 5000 rpm!
No... that will never happen, the MOCO would lose too much aftermarket parts!

Boy, I like to dream!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on April 19, 2010, 08:40:49 PM
Again I say "Watercooled" SEUC, with a GREAT aftermarket seat (Mustang).
Like it was said before, relocate filter, fix the primary filler.
Oh, as long as it's watercooled, might as well tune it for 100 rear wheel hp,
with 100ft/lb of torque starting at 2000 rpm and running thru 5000 rpm!
No... that will never happen, the MOCO would lose too much aftermarket parts!

Boy, I like to dream!
Oh I forgot a BIG one!!!!!! FIX THE BATWING FAIRING BRACKETS!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WestCoastRuss on April 19, 2010, 09:17:11 PM
Here is the new 2011 Springer CVO
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 5.56mm on April 19, 2010, 09:29:16 PM
Here is the new 2011 Springer CVO

 :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 19, 2010, 09:37:49 PM
Oh I forgot a BIG one!!!!!! FIX THE BATWING FAIRING BRACKETS!!
They already have ....  supposedly.  :nixweiss: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: jimz2003 on April 21, 2010, 01:54:56 AM
I have owned a harley of some sort for 28 years, I remember when the saddle bags were for tools and spare parts just so you could make it back home.Water cooled is a good idea but IMHO it would take away from the nostalgia of the Harley. I know Iam a newbie here but been reading the post for some time and a big majority of the post contain research and tips and tricks to beat the heat, now if they made them water cooled all this research would go to the way side.But if they do make them water cooled Iam sure there will be new research needing to be done, the beauty of owning a Harley the bike will never be done we will always find something that sets ours apart from everyone else's.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on April 21, 2010, 09:40:47 PM
I was able to see the 2011 color chart yesterday at my dealer. He had just got it
in and the sales staff had not even seen it yet.  :2vrolijk_21:

The most stand out color is called Sedona Orange and it looks great.
The owner of the dealership said he was ordering himself a new SG
in that color and then customize it, 21 inch front wheel, wrap around
front fender, etc.

Did not have SE colors in it though :(

                                                         

                                                         Mark
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 21, 2010, 09:46:54 PM
Did not have SE colors in it though :(

                                                         

                                                         Mark

Maybe they're discontuing the Screamin' Eagles and just gonna do the Dark Customs.  :-\ spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on April 21, 2010, 10:42:14 PM
They need to throw in some freakin' HID headlamps that throw off some serious light, and make the rest of the lamps LED.  They need to make the CVO's the showoff bikes to get those with standard models to want to buy those extras they saw on the SE's.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wild Card on April 22, 2010, 10:10:43 AM
Maybe they're discontuing the Screamin' Eagles and just gonna do the Dark Customs.  :-\ spyder

I bet they're just holding out to unveil the special 108th anniversary paint!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on April 23, 2010, 04:19:45 PM
Eventually, they will have no choice but to phase out air and go to water cool. In my prying with the rep's, all I could get was a smile and a wink, but no doubt we'll see one in the next couple of years. I agree getting the sound and feel are probably the biggest issues, but I'd be open to giving it a hard look. If it provided better performance, didn't look/sound ridiculous, and finally gave us a convenient oil filter location, why not? Granted, they have a whole bunch of other areas to focus on as well, but it's definitely coming.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on April 23, 2010, 07:19:22 PM
Eventually, they will have no choice but to phase out air and go to water cool. In my prying with the rep's, all I could get was a smile and a wink, but no doubt we'll see one in the next couple of years. I agree getting the sound and feel are probably the biggest issues, but I'd be open to giving it a hard look. If it provided better performance, didn't look/sound ridiculous, and finally gave us a convenient oil filter location, why not? Granted, they have a whole bunch of other areas to focus on as well, but it's definitely coming.

I Certainly don't want anyone to feel old, but it was 25 years ago today that Coke made the biggest marketing plunder in history when they introduced their new Coke and did away with their 99 year formula that made them the #1 selling soft drink in the world!  As we all know just 3 months later after a worldwide revolt and Pepsi gaining ground on them in the marketplace, there was the rebirth of the Coca Cola Classic formula which is still used today and the new formula was eventually taken off the market.

I'm sure Harley-Davidson is not interested in making a similar mistake and no doubt with Willie G. still involved they won't be changing to liquid anytime soon...  Not long after the V-Rod was introduced, to answer numerous questions about when the Harley touring fleet would get a liquid cooled engine (according to my dealer who heard his reply), Willie simply answered "not while I'm alive!"

I think we'll see a larger engine long before we ever see a liquid cool one, if we ever see one???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on April 23, 2010, 08:06:58 PM
My guess is they will do the exact same models as last year.   The ultra will always be there and the rest were the first year of a normal two year cycle.  Albeit they sometimes fool us like the SESG one year offer
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: marshall10 on April 23, 2010, 08:12:06 PM
I Certainly don't want anyone to feel old, but it was 25 years ago today that Coke made the biggest marketing plunder in history when they introduced their new Coke and did away with their 99 year formula that made them the #1 selling soft drink in the world!  As we all know just 3 months later after a worldwide revolt and Pepsi gaining ground on them in the marketplace, there was the rebirth of the Coca Cola Classic formula which is still used today and the new formula was eventually taken off the market.

I'm sure Harley-Davidson is not interested in making a similar mistake and no doubt with Willie G. still involved they won't be changing to liquid anytime soon...  Not long after the V-Rod was introduced, to answer numerous questions about when the Harley touring fleet would get a liquid cooled engine (according to my dealer who heard his reply), Willie simply answered "not while I'm alive!"

I think we'll see a larger engine long before we ever see a liquid cool one, if we ever see one???

VW bugs died out because of the CAT requirements, now all motorcycles are required them. History doesn't lie and we must learn from it. I'm not saying they will be water cooled this year, but unless something changes about the heat they will have to cool it off someway.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVORick on April 23, 2010, 09:14:34 PM
VW bugs died out because of the CAT requirements, now all motorcycles are required them. History doesn't lie and we must learn from it. I'm not saying they will be water cooled this year, but unless something changes about the heat they will have to cool it off someway.
It be a lot cooler if it was $10K cheaper... ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on April 24, 2010, 01:31:51 AM
as for 2011 I don't believe there will be any mayor changes besides - hopefully - the long overdue modernization of the softails.

Those bikes are really outdated now.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: guppytrash on April 24, 2010, 09:28:00 AM
I would have no heartache with  water cooled.  It is the missing link now that we have closed loop fuel injection.  Would be nice to see the engine temp as stable as the newer cars.  I think then you could also get the performance out of them.

I would expect a streetglide "limited" since it is the hot seller and it costs the Moco nothing to make it a 103.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Sea Biscuit on April 24, 2010, 10:29:49 AM
OK...I'll play.

I think the SESG is a one year wonder...the SERG was a one year wonder and really the only difference between the two bikes is the fork vs. frame mounted fairing...so combined it has had a two year run and I'm OK with that...makes our SESG (and SERG) rare bikes! :pepper:

With respect to water cooled, I agree it's coming. When I don't know but do it right (i.e. engine cooler, lots of power etc.) and keep it a "Harley" and people will buy it.

I remember when Porsche went from air cooled to water cooled in 1999 with their 996 model...the "diehards" screamed bloody murder and the 996 model is not a well loved model, but Porsche improved on that model and went to their 997 model and now their 997.2 model and even the "diehards" are now buying them...people will adapt if the "product" is done right.

And of course, I could be "out to lunch" but it's all fun and games right now! :)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: jimz2003 on April 24, 2010, 12:42:45 PM
They have pics of the new 2011 softtails here at the affees nothing on the cvo's yet.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on April 24, 2010, 03:50:58 PM
They have pics of the new 2011 softtails here at the affees nothing on the cvo's yet.
Yeah, I saw the new color chart yesterday.....some nice metal flake but nothing on custom colors yet.  :coolblue: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: themuse6 on April 26, 2010, 03:13:57 AM
 :soapbox:Is it really that time of the year already?  Can't wait for this rumor mill to get rolling! Ha......  :pepper:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on April 26, 2010, 12:25:10 PM
Lets see ...the dealer meeting is 12 week away...correct??  anyone know the date and location
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: martys on April 26, 2010, 12:36:59 PM
I forsee another CVO directed at the Ladies  :gorgeous: ( and those shorter in stature ) :glasses2: Maybe a LowRider, or Sporty   :nixweiss: and maybe a combo bike  :coolblue: like an Ultra Clasic Road Glide  :nixweiss: :drink:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 26, 2010, 12:39:08 PM
Lets see ...the dealer meeting is 12 week away...correct??  anyone know the date and location



Continuing the theme started at the Winter meeting the summer meeting will (do significantly little applause and less fanfare) introduce the "49."  It will also fill a niche that wasn't perceived by anyone else and the tank will be shaped like a walnut.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SixGun on April 27, 2010, 10:24:04 AM
I'm going to hang it out there and say that MoCo will have to have more machines with water cooled engines to meet the combined EPA standards...Willie be damned.  Unless some back room deal by the WH is hatched to specifically exempt them.

And why is that even a factor? How many of our exhausts will it take to equal one Volcano explosion?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on April 27, 2010, 10:27:02 AM

Continuing the theme started at the Winter meeting the summer meeting will (do significantly little applause and less fanfare) introduce the "49."  It will also fill a niche that wasn't perceived by anyone else and the tank will be shaped like a walnut.

I assume that this will replace the peanut tank?   :D

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on April 27, 2010, 10:45:04 AM
I assume that this will replace the peanut tank?   :D

:devil:

Exactly.  And the new "International Tourer" model will have a tank shaped like a Brazil nut :drink: .
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on April 27, 2010, 11:17:01 AM
Exactly.  And the new "International Tourer" model will have a tank shaped like a Brazil nut :drink: .

and the California model will have a tank shaped like a left-wing nut?   :o

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: iski on April 27, 2010, 11:46:34 AM
Most of the nuts around here are sitting on the seats.....



Ya buncha Filberts.



 ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on April 27, 2010, 05:54:35 PM
My dealer knows how much a like green and just emailed me to mention one of the new colours for 2011...

Black & Apple Green... I can just imagine what that''' look like!  :o

Just the regular colour charts for now.  No clue what the CVO's colours will be???  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on April 27, 2010, 08:18:42 PM
  The  part about water cooling I just don't understand is the "SOUND".
People, the sound Will NOT CHANGE! Of coarse if you want the rattle
of the engine, that MAY be a problem, but then again EVERYONE changes
the exhaust anyway!!!!!!!!!!  Just think, cool engine, MEGA power.
Almost as good as $ex!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: marshall10 on April 27, 2010, 08:39:00 PM
  The  part about water cooling I just don't understand is the "SOUND".
People, the sound Will NOT CHANGE! Of coarse if you want the rattle
of the engine, that MAY be a problem, but then again EVERYONE changes
the exhaust anyway!!!!!!!!!!  Just think, cool engine, MEGA power.
Almost as good as $ex!

Almost? Better, I don't care who you are riding a motorcycle lasts longer  :)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Zinister on April 27, 2010, 08:44:31 PM
I was in for serfice today and looked at the new colors and didn't find any that I would buy. Allot of my favorite colors are gone!! Not even a good blue to pick from.


What  are the new softail models offered for this year? I was told the softail custom is out for 2011.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SE66 on April 27, 2010, 08:51:28 PM
Just stop and think how many Heritage Softail Classic's are out there. It's hard to believe there has never been a Screamin Eagle Heritage.  That kind of combination would be a real Meat Ax for HD.  Probably would be the biggest seller HD has ever had.  Just my 2cents.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on April 27, 2010, 09:47:39 PM
In my opinion, the Convertible CVO looks pretty darn close to a Heritage :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on April 27, 2010, 10:00:28 PM
In my opinion, the Convertible CVO looks pretty darn close to a Heritage :nixweiss:

I'm sure you'll get an argument from all the Heritage owners out there with that comment.  I know, I know everyone has the right to their own opinion, but that's almost sacreligious!  :o

With all due respect to the Convertible owners out there and I'm certain that they couldn't agree more!

We are certainly due to see a SE Heritage.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on April 27, 2010, 10:10:30 PM
I'm sure you'll get an argument from all the Heritage owners out there with that comment.  I know, I know everyone has the right to their own opinion, but that's almost sacreligious!  :o

With all due respect to the Convertible owners out there and I'm certain that they couldn't agree more!

We are certainly due to see a SE Heritage.


Good point.  I mean no disrespect to the Heritage owners.  The FLSTN is one of the MoCo's best ever, again, in my opinion.  And no disrespect to the convertible owners, but it just is not one of my favorite bikes for 2010.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on April 29, 2010, 05:53:55 PM
Lets see ...the dealer meeting is 12 week away...correct??  anyone know the date and location


Anone know the answer to this??  Vegas again??
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on April 29, 2010, 09:37:31 PM
In my opinion, the Convertible CVO looks pretty darn close to a Heritage :nixweiss:

I wonder if you've seen a Convertible in person? It does not compare to a Heritage at all. Just my 2 cents.

Ride safely,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: casper on April 30, 2010, 07:33:52 PM
Dealer meeting is in Nashville at end of May
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on April 30, 2010, 08:03:59 PM
Road Glide!!!!!!!!!

Mike




I agree but a touring model with a wet motor. You almost need a fixed fairing with lowers to pull it off.  Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVORick on April 30, 2010, 10:42:12 PM
I wonder if you've seen a Convertible in person? It does not compare to a Heritage at all. Just my 2 cents.

Ride safely,
Louis
I have an '07 Heritage and when I see the Convertible it is just like a Heritage sans LARGE windscreen.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 03, 2010, 02:06:00 PM
Dealer meeting is in Nashville at end of May

I just heard the dealer meeting will be the last week of July Vegas ????
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bill Golightly on May 04, 2010, 08:57:29 AM
I just heard the dealer meeting will be the last week of July Vegas ????


The meeting is the end of July in Nashville.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 04, 2010, 09:02:02 AM
thanks
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 04, 2010, 09:02:42 AM
The meeting is the end of July in Nashville.

Hope they get the flooding stopped by then
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on May 04, 2010, 09:33:48 AM
Hope they get the flooding stopped by then

New for 2011:  Balloon tires!  Likethe old ATC's!  :huepfenjump3:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Mr. Wizard on May 04, 2010, 09:48:11 AM

Good point.  I mean no disrespect to the Heritage owners.  The FLSTN is one of the MoCo's best ever, again, in my opinion.  And no disrespect to the convertible owners, but it just is not one of my favorite bikes for 2010.

She had a FLSTN and got the ConV. With the exception of the mucked up windshield we thought it to be the closest thing to a Heritage that we've seen so poof, we got her one. With the Fatboy shield and a change in front lights away from the Dyna headlight it looks pretty darn close.

Regardless... and what counts the most...  she is happy with the ConV.


BTW..  heard another rumor..  are they doing away with the 96 to go with the 103 across the board?




Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SixGun on May 05, 2010, 03:38:22 PM
Dealer meeting is in Nashville at end of May

I hope it wasn't planned for Opryland Hotel...

I was just Kayaking down the street of a Condominuum complex (no chit) the day before yesterday.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on May 05, 2010, 11:19:15 PM
Holy crap!  I hope you were with her!
Title: The 2011 question what models do you think HD will produce any surprises???
Post by: RGS1966 on May 07, 2010, 11:07:21 PM
Ok we all know they will do another round of Street Glides do you think now they will include a detachable tour pack like they did in the 2005 Electra glide models.  Im sure they will make another ultra classic model any surprises to look forward to????? :orange:
Title: Re: The 2011 question what models do you think HD will produce any surprises???
Post by: spydglide on May 07, 2010, 11:31:32 PM
Ok we all know they will do another round of Street Glides do you think now they will include a detachable tour pack like they did in the 2005 Electra glide models.  Im sure they will make another ultra classic model any surprises to look forward to????? :orange:
On a Street Glide?  ???  Ya never know what they'll do.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Easy on May 07, 2010, 11:45:17 PM
Any ideas on colors
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 09, 2010, 09:31:06 AM
colors??? not till the end of July
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: GtreetSlide on May 09, 2010, 02:35:58 PM
an Ultra Street Glide???

jb
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on May 09, 2010, 02:41:16 PM
an Ultra Street Glide???

jb
Wouldn't that be kinda like a Ultra Sportster? :huepfenlol2:  har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on May 09, 2010, 05:59:56 PM
I hope it wasn't planned for Opryland Hotel...

I was just Kayaking down the street of a Condominuum complex (no chit) the day before yesterday.

The meeting is in July, but due to the flooding in Nashville the hotel chain is looking at other cities to move the meeting to where they have availability at the same chain of hotels.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on May 10, 2010, 06:28:36 AM
colors??? not till the end of July
All dealers have color charts already. That's what they use to order from the first production quarter, even if they don't know the model specifics.

Ride safely,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on May 10, 2010, 08:30:13 AM
All dealers have color charts already. That's what they use to order from the first production quarter, even if they don't know the model specifics.

Ride safely,
Louis
I think he's talking about CVO colors and I don't believe dealers have them yet. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BUBBLEHEAD on May 10, 2010, 09:25:03 AM
I saw the production bike color chart yesturday. I have to say I think a couple of them are going to look hot. Really like the sadona orange.. Lets hope the CVO color schemes are as nice.



"stay tuned"   :bananarock:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on May 10, 2010, 09:25:55 AM
I'm not clear as to whether they even get CVO colors before the show or not.........I don't remember ever hearing that they do.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on May 10, 2010, 10:08:02 AM
I'm not clear as to whether they even get CVO colors before the show or not.........I don't remember ever hearing that they do.  spyder
I've never heard them to be released (publicly) before the dealer meeting.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 10, 2010, 11:14:20 AM
I think he's talking about CVO colors and I don't believe dealers have them yet. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

correct
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on May 10, 2010, 05:04:37 PM
I think he's talking about CVO colors and I don't believe dealers have them yet. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Well, I would not call the CVO paint schemes colors. In any case these appear typically only at the same time as the bikes are presented, which is at the dealer show. And why would I be concerned, I just got a 2010 in the non-color black last week, he he he.

Cheers,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on May 10, 2010, 05:31:54 PM
Well, I would not call the CVO paint schemes colors. In any case these appear typically only at the same time as the bikes are presented, which is at the dealer show. And why would I be concerned, I just got a 2010 in the non-color black last week, he he he.

Cheers,
Louis

Totally agree Louis.  Paint schemes.  And I would ask for pics of the 'non-color' scooter, but I realize they just don't photograph true to their beauty, do they?   spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on May 10, 2010, 05:43:16 PM
Well, I would not call the CVO paint schemes colors. In any case these appear typically only at the same time as the bikes are presented, which is at the dealer show. And why would I be concerned, I just got a 2010 in the non-color black last week, he he he.

Cheers,
Louis

Maybe you wouldn't but the MoCo does (as seen on the spec sheet here (http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/data/Apps/2010_Motorcycles/html/specs/printable_specs.html?model=flhtcuse5&lang=en&market=us&market_type=us&pricingExt=us&dwp=false&dwp_price=false)). :nixweiss:

Color Options Crimson Mist Black/Dark Slate with Flame Graphic  Crimson Mist Black/Dark Slate with Flame Graphic 

....

Custom Color 1  $35,999 (Scarlet Red Pearl/Dark Slate, Riptide Blue/Titanium Dust, Burnt Amber/Hot Citrus) 
Custom Color 2  $36,499 (Crimson Mist Black/Dark Slate)


 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on May 10, 2010, 05:54:47 PM
Has anyone ever seen a 'color' chart of CVO bikes?  :-\  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on May 10, 2010, 06:06:24 PM
I don't believe there is such a thing as a colour chart for the CVO's and they never let the dealers know prior to the dealer meetings in July... My dealer is nice enough to always call me from the show floor to explain the colour options to me.

Usually though it's just a confirmation of what has just been released on the MoCo's website.

The dealers get to see the colours "in the flesh" at the show just as we see them on the website...  Having said that, there has been the odd time when someone goofed at HO and we got to see them a few hours earlier than they saw them at the show!

We'll just have to wait till July.

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on May 10, 2010, 06:32:52 PM
Totally agree Louis.  Paint schemes.  And I would ask for pics of the 'non-color' scooter, but I realize they just don't photograph true to their beauty, do they?   spyder

Well, they really do look differently in almost every picture. It is a "color" best be seen in person. What intrigues me, is that from aprox 10 feet away it looks almost always like the bike is painted all black. The flames and the slate portion only "appear" in certain light conditions, or when you get up close. Contrary to many others who discuss this bike in another thread, I believe the Moco did well in leaving some chrome accents. If at any time there was no discussion about taste possible, than in this case. Either you like it (and I do), or you don't. And that's fair enough.

But I did not mean to hijack this thread.

Maybe you wouldn't but the MoCo does (as seen on the spec sheet here (http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Media/data/Apps/2010_Motorcycles/html/specs/printable_specs.html?model=flhtcuse5&lang=en&market=us&market_type=us&pricingExt=us&dwp=false&dwp_price=false)). :nixweiss:

Color Options Crimson Mist Black/Dark Slate with Flame Graphic  Crimson Mist Black/Dark Slate with Flame Graphic 

....

Custom Color 1  $35,999 (Scarlet Red Pearl/Dark Slate, Riptide Blue/Titanium Dust, Burnt Amber/Hot Citrus) 
Custom Color 2  $36,499 (Crimson Mist Black/Dark Slate)


 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Well, agreed. However, if they call it a color, technically they are wrong.

Ride safely,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 10, 2010, 08:53:16 PM
I don't believe there is such a thing as a colour chart for the CVO's and they never let the dealers know prior to the dealer meetings in July... My dealer is nice enough to always call me from the show floor to explain the colour options to me.

Usually though it's just a confirmation of what has just been released on the MoCo's website.

The dealers get to see the colours "in the flesh" at the show just as we see them on the website...  Having said that, there has been the odd time when someone goofed at HO and we got to see them a few hours earlier than they saw them at the show!

We'll just have to wait till July.


Grizz   you are correct...I wish the MOCO website could do a better job of depiciting the true colors when they announce








Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bill Golightly on May 10, 2010, 09:01:10 PM
The meeting is the end of July in Nashville.

The dealer show has been moved to Vegas because of flooding. July 27 - 29.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 11, 2010, 09:44:11 AM
The dealer show has been moved to Vegas because of flooding. July 27 - 29.

are you sure??? whats the dates??
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on May 11, 2010, 10:08:26 AM
are you sure??? whats the dates??

Try a guess.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVO FF on May 11, 2010, 04:02:51 PM
Agree they need to do a much better job of showing the colors on the web or brochures. If I would not have seen the color of my bike in person I would not have wanted a the Atlantic Ocean Teal they were passing off as "Riptide Blue". I got the color brochure of the Crimson black and the bike does not look like that in person. I am glad I saw it in the American Iron spread before I put a deposit on one. Personal choice I know, but these custom colors deceive the buyer when the graphics don`t match the true bike.

Also it is going to be interesting moving the CVO line outside of the custom shop into the regular softail production line. Will there be a difference in the product going forward?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 11, 2010, 10:58:20 PM
Try a guess.

Thanks for the coaching
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on May 11, 2010, 11:30:24 PM
Thanks for the coaching

I guess you saw that coming ;-).
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on May 11, 2010, 11:31:29 PM

Also it is going to be interesting moving the CVO line outside of the customer shop into the regular softail production line. Will there be a difference in the product going forward?

Not Softail for all. Touring in Touring, Softail in Softail.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVO FF on May 12, 2010, 08:47:56 PM
Not Softail for all. Touring in Touring, Softail in Softail.

Thanks, that's what I meant but did not state it that way.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on May 13, 2010, 05:13:25 PM
The dealer show has been moved to Vegas because of flooding. July 27 - 29.

These dates and location has been confirmed with my dealer as well... Guess we'll be waiting a little longer this year to see the new models.  :(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: johnnymap on May 13, 2010, 06:13:54 PM
How about a 2011 CVO Roadglide? How about a midyear "wet" Trike CVO?  Was told this morning the Trike was put off until midyear because they are having trouble with the radiator.

I know how these things go, but the that told me this says he saw pictures of the RG.

For whaterver it is worth.  Which is probably not much.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on May 13, 2010, 10:56:55 PM
(...)
Was told this morning the Trike was put off until midyear because they are having trouble with the radiator.
(...)

Radiator?
 :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cognac104 on May 19, 2010, 02:22:10 PM
johnnymapp, intesting information "How about a 2011 CVO Roadglide? How about a midyear "wet" Trike CVO?  Was told this morning the Trike was put off until midyear because they are having trouble with the radiator.

I know how these things go, but the that told me this says he saw pictures of the RG.

For whaterver it is worth.  Which is probably not much."

You wouldn't happen to have a photo that you can get for us to see would you?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: johnnymap on May 19, 2010, 05:10:27 PM
No, Congac, I did not see the pictures.  I did not put this out as gospel, just adding to the fun of speculation.  Although I believe the guy saw something that a connected with HD showed him.  He has no reason to make something up.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cognac104 on May 20, 2010, 05:17:24 PM
JonnyMapp,

Can't blame me for asking. while it may be conjecture, it may well be good information. One never knows one's so called inside information as being valid or specualtion. If it were true, and you had a great source, all of us I am sure would love to get that sneak peak.  The guy you talked with would then be golden.  What the heck, he could even run for President of the US... LOL
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on May 20, 2010, 10:40:11 PM
Id vote for him!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: johnnymap on May 21, 2010, 10:07:11 AM
No blame at all.  Only time will tell about the 2011 RG CVO or the water cooled trike.  Maybe things will be clearer in July.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 23, 2010, 08:56:49 AM
Don't plan on seeing the new 2011's on display in Rapid City during Sturgis week.  Last year the city could not give HD a decent price on using the civic center (like they had used  :-[for years) and  HD was relegated to the Civic Center parking lot.  This year they couldn't even agree to the parking area.  If you are looking to see the new 2001 bikes you will need to go to Sturgis at 3d and Lasalle as described in most recent HOG magazine

Too bad.  Nice move Rapid City..   


















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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: dartman on May 23, 2010, 12:45:51 PM
Quote from: bbrown link=topic=48421.msg719233e#msg719233 date=1271287917
Is it to early to start discussing what the 2011 Screamin eagles will be????  colors???   Models ???  changes???

After checking my crystal ball, I can predict with absolute certainty, that the 2011 CVO models will come from the factory  with very restrictive Exhaust Systems and air intake, the ECM will have more complex programming making it more difficult to tune, and the AFR will be extremely lean causing Overheating Problems that will require expenditures of Hundreds of Dollars to overcome, The Engines will have valve clatter requireing Louder Mufflers or ear plugs, and for the Majority of Riders the Seat, Windshield and Shocks will require replacement.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on May 23, 2010, 01:33:13 PM
After checking my crystal ball, I can predict with absolute certainty, that the 2011 CVO models will come from the factory  with very restrictive Exhaust Systems and air intake, the ECM will have more complex programming making it more difficult to tune, and the AFR will be extremely lean causing Overheating Problems that will require expenditures of Hundreds of Dollars to overcome, The Engines will have valve clatter requireing Louder Mufflers or ear plugs, and for the Majority of Riders the Seat, Windshield and Shocks will require replacement.


Finally!  Somebody got it right!   :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 23, 2010, 05:28:34 PM

Finally!  Somebody got it right!   :huepfenlol2:


Nothing new... ???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 24, 2010, 06:17:04 PM
Don't plan on seeing the new 2011's on display in Rapid City during Sturgis week.  Last year the city could not give HD a decent price on using the civic center (like they had used  :-[for years) and  HD was relegated to the Civic Center parking lot.  This year they couldn't even agree to the parking area.  If you are looking to see the new 2011 bikes you will need to go to Sturgis at 3d and Lasalle as described in most recent HOG magazine
Too bad.  Nice move Rapid City..    



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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: GtreetSlide on May 24, 2010, 11:58:32 PM
After checking my crystal ball, I can predict with absolute certainty, that the 2011 CVO models will come from the factory  with very restrictive Exhaust Systems and air intake, the ECM will have more complex programming making it more difficult to tune, and the AFR will be extremely lean causing Overheating Problems that will require expenditures of Hundreds of Dollars to overcome, The Engines will have valve clatter requireing Louder Mufflers or ear plugs, and for the Majority of Riders the Seat, Windshield and Shocks will require replacement.

and half will come with ugly wheels and way too many reflectors...

jb
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 27, 2010, 04:46:45 PM
Only 8 weeks to go .....can't wait for the 2011's
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cropsure on May 28, 2010, 04:12:02 PM
Just put a deposit down on a 2011 at my dealer.  Sure hope they do another SEUC!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on May 28, 2010, 07:23:31 PM
Just put a deposit down on a 2011 at my dealer.  Sure hope they do another SEUC!
Have they put out prices already?  :nixweiss:  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Jock on May 28, 2010, 09:44:50 PM
Having been away for several days got a chance to talk to our old source on all things future.  That's right; the pool boy.  Willy's brother's cousin's babysitter's girlfriend's aunt's gardner's convenience store clerk's dad who knows the guy who drinks with the bartender for the man who is the pool boy said that it is certain that 2011 will bring the FXRVR2FSE.  That's the new FXR model with 2 front wheels and reverse so it can (only) run circles around the competition :bananarock: !  And, of course, the SE Servicar.

Damn...you always have the inside source!  What a bike!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on May 28, 2010, 09:52:06 PM
In SoCal the pool boy says it will be a FXRTTT  "twice times tires" ...so there its been verified.  :D   Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Jock on May 28, 2010, 09:52:24 PM
Just put a deposit down on a 2011 at my dealer.  Sure hope they do another SEUC!

Deposit on what?

 :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cropsure on May 28, 2010, 09:56:57 PM
Deposit on what?

 :nixweiss:

On a 2011 SE Touring, what ever it may be.  Have to do it early around here or you won't get one.  Like I said, I just hope they do another Ultra.

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cropsure on May 28, 2010, 09:57:33 PM
Have they put out prices already?  :nixweiss:  spyder

No, no prices yet. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 29, 2010, 11:53:25 AM
Only 8 weeks to go .....can't wait for the 2011's



As others have noted on this string it appears the dealer meeting has been moved to Vegas from Nashville.  Anyone know where in Vegas..?? Most years one of our members is able to post some photos .Anyone going ???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on May 29, 2010, 01:35:34 PM


As others have noted on this string it appears the dealer meeting has been moved to Vegas from Nashville.  Anyone know where in Vegas..?? Most years one of our members is able to post some photos .Anyone going ???

This year's Dealer Meetings will be held July 27 - 29 in Las Vegas at The Venetian.

http://www.venetian.com/
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WestCoastRuss on May 29, 2010, 03:22:56 PM
Road Trip...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on May 29, 2010, 09:40:09 PM
Road Trip...

Wonder if they would let us in??
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on June 03, 2010, 11:08:28 AM
Wonder if they would let us in??

Crash!   :orange:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: StreetDog on June 03, 2010, 01:22:59 PM
Wonder if they would let us in??

Nope , ain't happening. :(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Maladjusted on June 03, 2010, 08:03:33 PM
SE Police Bike... love to see LEO ripping past, sirens blaring on a flame ladened scooter!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: iski on June 04, 2010, 10:05:04 AM
2011 HD Weeble bike.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 04, 2010, 10:08:25 AM
2011 HD Weeble bike.

Too late.
You already own one of those.
OK, maybe it's not a 2011 but it is a Weeble.

 :huepfenlol2:           :huepfenlol2:          :huepfenlol2:            :huepfenlol2:             :huepfenlol2:

SBB


Title: Re: 2011
Post by: iski on June 04, 2010, 10:25:35 AM
Too late.
You already own one of those.
OK, maybe it's not a 2011 but it is a Weeble.

 :huepfenlol2:           :huepfenlol2:          :huepfenlol2:            :huepfenlol2:             :huepfenlol2:

SBB




Have a couple of them actually.  8)


Weebles wobble  :nervous: but they don't fall down.   :pepper:

2011 MoCo slogan: Screw it Weebles, let's wobble!!
  :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 04, 2010, 10:55:24 AM
Have a couple of them actually.  8)


Weebles wobble  :nervous: but they don't fall down.   :pepper:

2011 MoCo slogan: Screw it Weebles, let's wobble!!
  :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:


You better copyright that above.

It will probably find it's way on a MoCo T shirt and you will lose all the residuals.

That would be a weeble shame.

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: iski on June 04, 2010, 11:11:31 AM

You better copyright that above.

It will probably find it's way on a MoCo T shirt and you will lose all the residuals.

That would be a weeble shame.

SBB

Would not be the first time have been screwed over by the MoCo.  :drink:

Saw a HD with training wheels this week. Outriggers pretty much like you see on a bicycle. Heading down Hwy. 27.   Did not appear to be Wilie G. on the HD Weeble bike, but possible he was incognito.   :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cropsure on June 04, 2010, 03:09:00 PM
What's everyone's guess on what the motor will be?  Do you think they will continue with the 110"?  They did the 103" for what, 6 or 7 years?  Only been 5 on this current one.  Probably just wishful thinking on my part, but hoping they stick something new in there for the 2011.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on June 04, 2010, 04:21:55 PM
The 110 isn't going anywhere? I'm doubting they're going to try to go larger with the air-cooled. Jmho.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on June 08, 2010, 10:16:16 PM
Only 7 weeks till we see the 2011's can not wait
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on June 10, 2010, 12:43:32 AM
Just put a deposit down on a 2011 at my dealer.  Sure hope they do another SEUC!

My local dealer told me that they have taken several cash deposits already on 2011 CVO's (I don't remember if he said 6 or 8), without even knowing what bikes they might be getting.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cropsure on June 10, 2010, 01:38:08 PM
My local dealer told me that they have taken several cash deposits already on 2011 CVO's (I don't remember if he said 6 or 8), without even knowing what bikes they might be getting.

Like I said, I just hope they do another UC.  Surely after 5 years of them in a row they will do a 6th.  Only time will tell.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on June 10, 2010, 02:48:16 PM
Like I said, I just hope they do another UC.  Surely after 5 years of them in a row they will do a 6th.  Only time will tell.
My guess is they will do a SEUC until the end of CVO's. They have been one of the best selling bikes in the CVO lineup since they came out.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on June 10, 2010, 03:13:47 PM
My guess is they will do a SEUC until the end of CVO's. They have been one of the best selling bikes in the CVO lineup since they came out.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
I agree.  As long as they keep selling like they have been, I think the MoCo will continue producing the SEUC.  Although they've hit another winner with SESG, so it will be interesting to see if the SESG does more than a 2-year run also.

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 10, 2010, 07:42:41 PM
I dropped a steel post driver on my left big toe this afternoon.  Screamed so loud and hopped so high I crossed the time space continuum and momentarily saw the next model year bikes.  However.....   I'm not sayin'.

Except to say still nothing as good as the SEEGs :2vrolijk_21: :drink: .
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: buckeye bulldog on June 10, 2010, 08:20:26 PM
Hopefully Sunrise yellow pearl
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVORick on June 10, 2010, 08:36:28 PM
I dropped a steel post driver on my left big toe this afternoon.  Screamed so loud and hopped so high I crossed the time space continuum and momentarily saw the next model year bikes.  However.....   I'm not sayin'.

Except to say still nothing as good as the SEEGs :2vrolijk_21: :drink: .
Now I know where the SCREAMIN part of the name comes from...(OUCH) :o
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on June 10, 2010, 09:40:57 PM
I dropped a steel post driver on my left big toe this afternoon.  Screamed so loud and hopped so high I crossed the time space continuum and momentarily saw the next model year bikes.  However.....   I'm not sayin'.

Except to say still nothing as good as the SEEGs :2vrolijk_21: :drink: .

First the finger, now the toe. Are you sure you ain't got a plan?

Cheers,
Louis

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on June 10, 2010, 09:49:26 PM
They didn't come out with that mid-year SEUC for no reason.  I would just hope that the fairing mounted GPS was a rudimentary test case to see how it goes over, and that maybe they would go so far as to actually wire it into the back of the radio for the full-year run.  My money is on seeing more SEUC's to follow.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVOfan on June 10, 2010, 09:54:23 PM
I kinda hope they hold off a year or two before doing another SEUC....maybe it would help my 2010 to not depreciate so fast....these things fall off the first two years like Escalades!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Supershooter on June 10, 2010, 10:00:03 PM
I kinda hope they hold off a year or two before doing another SEUC....maybe it would help my 2010 to not depreciate so fast....these things fall off the first two years like Escalades!

I'm in the same boat, the MoCo could lay off the Ultra's for a few years to incerease value in some of the older models.
Supershooter
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on June 10, 2010, 10:00:24 PM
I kinda hope they hold off a year or two before doing another SEUC....maybe it would help my 2010 to not depreciate so fast....these things fall off the first two years like Escalades!


Now thats funny!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVOfan on June 10, 2010, 10:47:44 PM

Now thats funny!

It's funny until you decide to sell it...it's typically close to $10k loss in two years if you've done any mods at all!  I just bought a 2008 SERK with 965 miles on it for $20k...came with V&H pipes and a Memphis Shades fairing painted to match.  $10k depreciation for 965 miles!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on June 11, 2010, 08:40:25 PM
I meant the Escalade part of the comment.  Glad the purchase worked out for you.  I have given up on Harley resale.  I do not think it will ever be the way it once was.  Enjoy that SERK!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Devil Dog on June 13, 2010, 08:01:27 PM
Just got the scoop from my pool guy (these guys seem to know what's going on). For 2011 there will be another SEUC, as for color or other mods?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 13, 2010, 09:09:06 PM
I heard (damned voices) that in a special marketing move intended to attract younger riders interested in the "green" movement HD is going to go offer the FLHTCUSERCY: The Screamin' Eagle Ultra Recycler.   Will use 06 paint sets and 07 engines.  They... um.... got some spare bits layin' around after all.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: frankshd on June 13, 2010, 09:11:05 PM
thats funny my pool guy said the black CVO was the last CVO to be ever produced :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVOfan on June 13, 2010, 09:14:46 PM
Here's a preview of the 2011 CVO...MOCO needs to eliminate some models and downsize production, so here's their answer (this guy was hired to do a one off prototype to test the waters with the current CVO owners).  They're trying to figure out what to call it...V-Ultra Road Glide Classic Rod?  (the liquid cooled engine will solve all the current complaints with the 110's)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-Touring-VRSCSE2-SHOW-BIKE-HARLEY-DAVIDSON-V-ROD-SCREAMIN-EAGLE-SHOW-BIKE-BAGGER_W0QQitemZ170499725994QQihZ007QQcategoryZ49996QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m444QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DCRX%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DSI%252BUA%252BLM%252BLA%26otn%3D1%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7836290144827460378#ht_1364wt_1161

MOCO dealers will be taking deposits starting JULY 1 if you want to secure one of these limited, numbered models...only 999 will be produced and should be available spring of 2011... ;D

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 13, 2010, 09:18:21 PM
thats funny my pool guy said the black CVO was the last CVO to be ever produced :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:


Snorting clorine will produce the same comments.

 :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on June 14, 2010, 07:54:36 AM
Here's a preview of the 2011 CVO...MOCO needs to eliminate some models and downsize production, so here's their answer (this guy was hired to do a one off prototype to test the waters with the current CVO owners).  They're trying to figure out what to call it...V-Ultra Road Glide Classic Rod?  (the liquid cooled engine will solve all the current complaints with the 110's)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Harley-Davidson-Touring-VRSCSE2-SHOW-BIKE-HARLEY-DAVIDSON-V-ROD-SCREAMIN-EAGLE-SHOW-BIKE-BAGGER_W0QQitemZ170499725994QQihZ007QQcategoryZ49996QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp4340.m444QQ_trkparmsZalgo%3DCRX%26its%3DC%252BS%26itu%3DSI%252BUA%252BLM%252BLA%26otn%3D1%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D7836290144827460378#ht_1364wt_1161

MOCO dealers will be taking deposits starting JULY 1 if you want to secure one of these limited, numbered models...only 999 will be produced and should be available spring of 2011... ;D



I hope they only make 999. Even with that number they will have some left over
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: dartman on June 14, 2010, 10:56:58 AM
I hope they only make 999. Even with that number they will have some left over
Your right on, thats an after dark with a full face helmet bike.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on June 17, 2010, 01:43:13 PM
Only 40 days and we will see the 2011's :pepper:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cropsure on June 17, 2010, 09:29:11 PM
Only 40 days and we will see the 2011's :pepper:

Can't wait!   :pepper:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: marshall10 on June 18, 2010, 09:37:08 PM
Around this time last year someone found the California Air and Resources Board (CARB) report on the 2010 Harleys. Has anyone tracked this down, or attempted to track this down, yet?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on June 18, 2010, 10:41:09 PM
Around this time last year someone found the California Air and Resources Board (CARB) report on the 2010 Harleys. Has anyone tracked this down, or attempted to track this down, yet?

I'm pretty sure that's always very close to the date of release...like a week before.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 18, 2010, 10:49:24 PM
Around this time last year someone found the California Air and Resources Board (CARB) report on the 2010 Harleys. Has anyone tracked this down, or attempted to track this down, yet?

If publicly posted yet they'd be here:

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2011/2011.php

Nothing yet.
Title: 2011 CVO's
Post by: cropsure on June 28, 2010, 03:04:46 PM
Looks like there will be a CVO Road Glide "Ultra" for this coming year....

http://www.arb.ca.gov/msprog/onroad/cert/hmc/2011/2011.php
Title: Re: 2011 CVO's
Post by: naitram on June 28, 2010, 03:13:49 PM
looks like

CVO softail convertable
CVO road glide ultra
CVO street glide
CVO ultra classic
CVO dyna
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on June 28, 2010, 03:46:21 PM
3 CVO Tourers. :confused5:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 28, 2010, 05:15:57 PM


A CVO Road Glide Ultra and a Road Glide Ultra.
It's about time.
And I see a lot of models have the 103.
Very interesting!
I'm holding out for the 2013 110th Anniversary SEUC in silver and black.
Maybe by then I'll have my 09 SEUC where it's as dependable as the other three.
I do have hope!

 :-\


SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 28, 2010, 05:17:47 PM
Some other interesting models also listed.  Both the regular Road Glide Custom and a Road Glide "Ultra."  Also a Road King 103 and a Street Glide 103.  Trikes had both the TriGlide listed and a Street Glide Trike.  Two models of a Road Glide is pretty good for a model that was again going to be discontinued.  That's what happens when you listen to the yard boy instead of the pool boy.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 28, 2010, 05:19:22 PM

A CVO Road Glide Ultra and a Road Glide Ultra.
It's about time.
And I see a lot of models have the 103.
Very interesting!
I'm holding out for the 2013 110th Anniversary SEUC in silver and black.
Maybe by then I'll have my 09 SEUC where it's as dependable as the other three.
I do have hope!

 :-\


SBB


Yeah, what Chip said :huepfenlol2: !
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Hot Rod on June 28, 2010, 05:51:58 PM

Yeah, what Chip said :huepfenlol2: !
Is the street glide going to have the 103..ci motor?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: skippy on June 28, 2010, 05:58:49 PM
pool boy told me that HD was cleaning out the warehouse and willie said  get rid of those 103 dust collectors or send them to the scrape metal  yard.   this is top notch info so you guys can bank on it.....   will update with more info  ASAP.....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 28, 2010, 06:04:26 PM
Is the street glide going to have the 103..ci motor?

Looks like there will be three motors in the Street Glide.
The 96", the 103" and the 110" in the SE.

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Hot Rod on June 28, 2010, 06:07:08 PM
Looks like there will be three motors in the Street Glide.
The 96", the 103" and the 110" in the SE.

SBB
Thank you kindly! Hot Rod
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on June 28, 2010, 08:38:41 PM
Seems pretty clear, that for the CVO's there are no new engines, or larger changes to be expected for 2011. That is good news for the owners, because it will keep resale value up (I think this is one of the intensions of the few changes). Adding the 103 to several  more regular models makes sense. It is a little stronger than the 96 and seems to be quite trouble free. Regarding to the CVO model range for 2011, obvioulsy the market told the Moco to go "touring" and not performance. That is why we see three Tourers plus the Convertible (which is kind of a touring bike in itself). Now we have to wait another four weeks to see the color combinations.

Cheers,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on June 28, 2010, 09:18:04 PM
CVO ROADGLIDE ULTRA????  WONDER HOW IT WILL DIFFER FROM THE 2009???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 28, 2010, 09:20:10 PM
CVO ROADGLIDE ULTRA????  WONDER HOW IT WILL DIFFER FROM THE 2009???



For starters, 2 years newer!


SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 28, 2010, 09:20:30 PM
CVO ROADGLIDE ULTRA????  WONDER HOW IT WILL DIFFER FROM THE 2009???


That's worth guessing about.  Fixed Ultra style pak, vented lowers, and the HK radio kit will include CB.  That'll be it though.  Just that obvious stuff.  They'll still want you to have to buy some stuff....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on June 28, 2010, 09:21:31 PM

For starters, 2 years newer!


SBB

:smartass: :wiseguy: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 28, 2010, 09:22:48 PM
Regarding to the CVO model range for 2011, obvioulsy the market told the Moco to go "touring" and not performance.
Cheers,
Louis


OMG, I missed that whole performance segment of the CVO line.

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 28, 2010, 09:23:34 PM

For starters, 2 years newer!


SBB



No, no chrome starters  :huepfenlol2: !! 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on June 28, 2010, 09:24:44 PM

No, no chrome starters  :huepfenlol2: !!  


Ahhh, at last, a voice of reason!
Forgot about the chrome starters!

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on June 28, 2010, 09:27:17 PM

Ahhh, at last, a voice of reason!
Forgot about the chrome starters!

SBB

That's right.  New for the release will be accessory 48776-10: Screamin' Eagle Chrome Engine Crank.  Aerodynamic handle for easy cranking even with high compression.  Also works well with 48977-10 Ballistic Nylon with Bar and Shield Logo Engine Crank storage bag.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sadunbar on June 28, 2010, 09:33:58 PM

For starters, 2 years newer!


SBB


And 5 or 6k....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on June 28, 2010, 09:36:40 PM
:smartass: :wiseguy: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:


 That and more expensive...oh wait we could make it up on the trade in....not
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: StreetDog on June 28, 2010, 10:44:06 PM
Pictures anyone.......... :worthless: 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on June 28, 2010, 10:46:40 PM
No photos  for another 4 weeks
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BALIS on June 29, 2010, 08:13:29 AM
It seems certain  sporsters have a 6th gear.
There are two Heritage classic a 1584cc and a 1688cc  ????
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: naitram on June 29, 2010, 09:02:51 AM
looks like option of 96 or 103 on most models  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: JCZ on June 29, 2010, 09:09:53 AM
I'm thinkin the 96 is just a sham by the MoCo to throw everybody off.  I think they'll all be the 103". :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RetSUBLDO on June 29, 2010, 09:20:51 AM
2011 CARB LISTING OF MODELS AND DISPLACEMENTS:

IRON 883   883
SUPERLOW   883
1200 CUSTOM   1200
1200 LOW   1200
FORTY-EIGHT   1200
NIGHTSTER   1200
XR 1200 X   1200
NIGHT ROD SPECIAL   1247
V-ROD MUSCLE   1247
CROSSBONES   1584
ELECTRA GLIDE CLAS   1584
FAT BOB   1584
FAT BOY   1584
FAT BOY LOW   1584
FAT BOY SHRINE   1584
HERITAGE CLASSIC   1584
ROAD GLIDE CUSTOM   1584
ROAD GLIDE ULTRA   1584
ROAD KING   1584
ROAD KING CLASSIC   1584
ROAD KING SHRINE   1584
ROCKER C   1584
SOFTAIL CLASSIC – SHRINE   1584
SOFTAIL DELUXE   1584
STREET BOB   1584
STREET GLIDE   1584
SUPER GLIDE CUSTOM   1584
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1584
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1584
WIDE GLIDE   1584
ELECTRA GLIDE CLAS   1688
ELECTRA GLIDE POLICE   1688
ELECTRA GLIDE ULTR   1688
ESCORT   1688
HERITAGE CLASSIC 1   1688
R. KING CLASSIC 103   1688
ROAD GLIDE CUSTOM   1688
ROAD GLIDE ULTRA 1   1688
ROAD KING 103   1688
ROAD KING 103 SHRINE   1688
ROAD KING POLICE   1688
STREET GLIDE 103   1688
STREET GLIDE TRIKE   1688
TRI GLIDE ULTRA CL   1688
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1688
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1688
CVO ROAD GLIDE   1802
CVO SOFTAIL CONVER   1802
CVO STREET GLIDE   1802
CVO ULTRA CLASSIC   1802
DYNA CVO   1802

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Tbone on June 29, 2010, 10:07:59 AM
Does anyone know what an 'Escort' is?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Ghost Rider on June 29, 2010, 10:11:39 AM
Does anyone know what an 'Escort' is?

A girl who will go out with you for money.

 :oops:  Sorry I couldn't help it.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: naitram on June 29, 2010, 10:14:20 AM
i would guess some variant of the police model
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bubba on June 29, 2010, 10:14:31 AM
Does anyone know what an 'Escort' is?

NO but if you google it I get a phone # for it.    "ESCORT 1688"

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Maladjusted on June 29, 2010, 10:15:18 AM
Does anyone know what an 'Escort' is?

What you call when you are in a strange city?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on June 29, 2010, 10:36:43 AM

OMG, I missed that whole performance segment of the CVO line.

SBB

Okay, maybe I got carried away. Was thinking lighter, faster instead of heavier, slower.

Cheers,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on June 29, 2010, 11:35:56 AM
Okay, maybe I got carried away. Was thinking lighter, faster instead of heavier, slower.

Cheers,
Louis
Ya mean 'stripped-down' without luggage carrying capacity (garage cans, cargo box, fairing pockets, etc) and without the cushy suspension?  har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Tbone on June 29, 2010, 06:08:29 PM
What you call when you are in a strange city?

LOL, I knew it was going to go there as I posted it but decided to leave it anyway, you guys didn't let me down.  ;D :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVOfan on June 29, 2010, 10:02:02 PM
2011 CARB LISTING OF MODELS AND DISPLACEMENTS:

IRON 883   883
SUPERLOW   883
1200 CUSTOM   1200
1200 LOW   1200
FORTY-EIGHT   1200
NIGHTSTER   1200
XR 1200 X   1200
NIGHT ROD SPECIAL   1247
V-ROD MUSCLE   1247
CROSSBONES   1584
ELECTRA GLIDE CLAS   1584
FAT BOB   1584
FAT BOY   1584
FAT BOY LOW   1584
FAT BOY SHRINE   1584
HERITAGE CLASSIC   1584
ROAD GLIDE CUSTOM   1584
ROAD GLIDE ULTRA   1584
ROAD KING   1584
ROAD KING CLASSIC   1584
ROAD KING SHRINE   1584
ROCKER C   1584
SOFTAIL CLASSIC – SHRINE   1584
SOFTAIL DELUXE   1584
STREET BOB   1584
STREET GLIDE   1584
SUPER GLIDE CUSTOM   1584
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1584
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1584
WIDE GLIDE   1584
ELECTRA GLIDE CLAS   1688
ELECTRA GLIDE POLICE   1688
ELECTRA GLIDE ULTR   1688
ESCORT   1688
HERITAGE CLASSIC 1   1688
R. KING CLASSIC 103   1688
ROAD GLIDE CUSTOM   1688
ROAD GLIDE ULTRA 1   1688
ROAD KING 103   1688
ROAD KING 103 SHRINE   1688
ROAD KING POLICE   1688
STREET GLIDE 103   1688
STREET GLIDE TRIKE   1688
TRI GLIDE ULTRA CL   1688
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1688
ULTRA CLASSIC ELEC   1688
CVO ROAD GLIDE   1802
CVO SOFTAIL CONVER   1802
CVO STREET GLIDE   1802
CVO ULTRA CLASSIC   1802
DYNA CVO   1802

51 different choices...no wonder MOCO is struggling...why not narrow it down and focus a little more on quality instead of spending so much to provide so many options to choose from?

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on June 30, 2010, 08:11:36 AM
51 different choices...no wonder MOCO is struggling...why not narrow it down and focus a little more on quality instead of spending so much to provide so many options to choose from

I beg to differ. The choices enhance Harley's marketing capability, hence sell more bikes. The production facilities through the last year were already streamlined to be able to build many different models (and we're talking small differences in many cases) efficiently from the same assembly line. I see no risk for quality.

Ride safely,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on June 30, 2010, 03:07:08 PM
I agree with Louis. Many of us have asked for this (more options) for a long time vs having to pay a boatload to get it the way we want it
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 9 1/2 Beers on June 30, 2010, 03:11:28 PM
Order system on the website ?

 Build it how you want it ?

 opps, I should know better  :nixweiss:

 Marty
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Billy on June 30, 2010, 10:52:18 PM
Order system on the website ?

 Build it how you want it ?

 opps, I should know better  :nixweiss:

 Marty
Noiw that is just to easy why do it that way when they make all the money on the extras and we have a garage full of parts that no one wants. Billy
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 02, 2010, 02:10:32 PM
Three more weeks and we will know the colors :pepper:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 02, 2010, 02:23:28 PM
Since the dealers know the regular 2011 colors, wouldn't they also know the 2011 CVO colors in advance?
They know what (regular) models will be out for 2011 also, but the CVO's are kept secret in a vault at Willie G's house and the pool boy hasn't cracked the safe yet. ;D

Seriously there may be a few dealers that have that info but they have been sworn to secrecy.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 02, 2010, 02:51:36 PM
5 CVO models for 2011?   :nervous:  Or was someone just doing some wishful thinking by sliding the SERG in there?   :nixweiss:  I can see the Ultra and Street Glide again, but I would have thought they learned their lesson on the leftover 09 SERGs to not bring that back again.   :nixweiss:

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Road_Glider on July 02, 2010, 03:02:43 PM
5 CVO models for 2011?   :nervous:  Or was someone just doing some wishful thinking by sliding the SERG in there?   :nixweiss:  I can see the Ultra and Street Glide again, but I would have thought they learned their lesson on the leftover 09 SERGs to not bring that back again.   :nixweiss:

:devil:
but the 2011 CVO RG will be an Ultra RG which is a big difference in my book.  I passed on the 09 CVO RG for that very reason.  Predict the 11 CVO Ultra RG's will fly off showroom floors just as fast as the CVO Ultra's have.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 02, 2010, 03:09:44 PM
5 CVO models for 2011?   :nervous:  Or was someone just doing some wishful thinking by sliding the SERG in there?   :nixweiss:  I can see the Ultra and Street Glide again, but I would have thought they learned their lesson on the leftover 09 SERGs to not bring that back again.   :nixweiss:

:devil:
Charlie you're not by yourself I thought/said the same thing (see Reply #6 (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=51203.msg750141#msg750141))... time will tell though. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 04, 2010, 07:00:56 AM
I'm thinkin the 96 is just a sham by the MoCo to throw everybody off.  I think they'll all be the 103". :nixweiss:
Good move!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on July 04, 2010, 05:46:32 PM
My dealer told me the Moco told him of a new option on the softails.
He thinks it will be cruise control. He also said he will be ordering all
the touring bikes with 103 engines in them.

He said the Moco was going to group options in packages like the car
companies do.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on July 04, 2010, 07:27:49 PM
What will make a SERG into a Ultra SERG??
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 04, 2010, 07:35:33 PM
What will make a SERG into a Ultra SERG??
Lowers and KTP. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 04, 2010, 08:14:13 PM
What will make a SERG into a Ultra SERG??

A few thousand bucks.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 04, 2010, 08:16:24 PM
A few thousand bucks.
:smartass: :wiseguy: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LC110 on July 04, 2010, 08:19:57 PM
Only thing I have heard from my buddy in Milwaukee is the to be looking for the new "Softail Low".
Supposse to be a "Willey G." design.  O-Boy :vrolijk27:
They have been riding the CVO's just know one can release the info.
http://motorcycles.about.com/b/2010/06/18/introducing-the-2011-harley-davidson-cvo-models.htm
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 04, 2010, 08:27:45 PM
Lowers and KTP. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Maybe the ultra seat and hand warmers?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 04, 2010, 08:28:40 PM
Maybe the ultra seat and hand warmers?
And you are correct on at least a few thousand more $$
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on July 05, 2010, 04:02:32 AM
(...)
http://motorcycles.about.com/b/2010/06/18/introducing-the-2011-harley-davidson-cvo-models.htm

I find the discussion below the littler teaser quite amusing. It shows you, in a way, what "other" people think of the CVO line.

Cheers,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: iski on July 05, 2010, 08:09:04 AM
I find the discussion below the littler teaser quite amusing. It shows you, in a way, what "other" people think of the CVO line.

Cheers,
Louis

Those remarks were amusing & indicate the prejudices of some of the other brand riders in the biker world.  Parts of it sounded like a convention of idiot squids.

Have ridden other brands myself, ride Harleys now. They ALL break down, if you ride them enough to find that out.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 05, 2010, 12:56:33 PM
Well, let's see if they have 5 CVO's this year, and are moving the production out of the CVO building to the main assembly line, pretty soon all Harley will make will be CVO's.   :nixweiss: :nervous: I like the fact that they are putting 103's in most of the models now.  That will really sell the non-CVO line much better, IMO.  And you've seen it here first, but I'm betting that for the 110th Anniversary in 2013, all the big twins will come out with a standard 110 engine and the CVO's will have a water-cooled big bore in the 130ci range.   :coolblue:

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gone Fishin' on July 05, 2010, 05:29:32 PM
Well, let's see if they have 5 CVO's this year, and are moving the production out of the CVO building to the main assembly line, pretty soon all Harley will make will be CVO's. 
(...)
If past production numbers are any indication, you need not to worry. Five CVO models and their respective color combinations should amount to approximately 15,000 bikes per year. The entire H-D model range is good for approximately 220,000 bikes per 2010/2011 model year. Speaking of the 103": That engine will be standard in several models in Europe for MY 2011, with no choice of the 96" engine. In the U.S. most bikes will be available with both engines as options. With the 110" engine remaining "reserved" for the CVO range, that will give you guys a lot of engine choices.
I also see a liquid cooled (not necessary water cooled) engine in the Moco's future. That is pretty easy to predict. I would, however, not go that far to tie that to a certain date or the CVO's.

Ride safely,
Louis
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Billy on July 05, 2010, 06:58:54 PM
Soft tails will have throttle by wire so cruise is not problem Billy
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 06, 2010, 08:15:55 PM
I'm calling -

A RoadGlide with a Tour Pack for 2011 model. Only 3 weeks to tell if I'm right.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 06, 2010, 08:50:19 PM
I'm calling -

A RoadGlide with a Tour Pack for 2011 model. Only 3 weeks to tell if I'm right.
I think you are right and it will have lowers too
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 06, 2010, 10:40:42 PM
Will it have any offensive weapons systems?  :confused5: I'm tired of just riding defense out here.  :-X spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wolfman on July 07, 2010, 07:20:03 AM
Harley, please don't "Old man" the Road Glide!!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Carlos Silva on July 07, 2010, 08:49:06 AM
Harley, please don't "Old man" the Road Glide!!!!

DITTO!!  :nervous:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 07, 2010, 09:48:41 AM
Harley, please don't "Old man" the Road Glide!!!!
:zwtf: :nixweiss:

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 07, 2010, 09:55:04 AM
 :vrolijk_11:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 07, 2010, 10:04:37 AM
I'm calling -

A RoadGlide with a Tour Pack for 2011 model. Only 3 weeks to tell if I'm right.

...and shark fins  :huepfenlol2:  :drink:   Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 07, 2010, 10:07:13 AM
...and shark fins  :huepfenlol2:  :drink:   Doc

.......2 weeks, 6 days.............
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 07, 2010, 10:16:54 AM
.......2 weeks, 6 days.............

I'll post pics.  Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 07, 2010, 10:20:52 AM
I'll post pics.  Doc

Doc you are my hero. I am sure your pics will be better thatn the MOCO web site
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: iski on July 07, 2010, 10:42:28 AM
Maybe it's a marketing ploy.  The MoCo puts up crappy pics of their new bikes on the HD website & then people go to the HD show rooms & see the bikes & realize the bikes look WAAAAAY better in person than the pics indicate.  They are so shocked they decide to buy a bike?


Unless they just put up crap pics & figure nobody cares, which would mean they don't care themselves what the pics look like.   :nixweiss: :nixweiss:


Anyway, it is a safe bet to say the MoCo pics on their website will suck and the bikes will look way better than those pics.


Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 110tHunDer on July 07, 2010, 11:45:23 AM
...and shark fins  :huepfenlol2:  :drink:   Doc

Yeah, bring back the shark fins! :2vrolijk_21: :huepfenjump3: :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 10, 2010, 09:35:09 AM
:nixweiss:
The dealer meeting starts on the 27th. When do we think the website will have the cvo's????  that same day??? Can not remember what happened last year
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on July 10, 2010, 06:57:25 PM
start checking 07/27/10 09:00 h Las Vegas time  ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Mrs Red Hot on July 13, 2010, 08:51:05 AM
start checking 07/27/10 09:00 h Las Vegas time  ;)

Our dealer said that all the 2011 bikes should be up on line on the HD web site by mid night on the 27th. He has been right every year so far. They will see the bike in person that afternoon and then HD has them available for the public to see on line at mid night that same day.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wild Card on July 13, 2010, 10:46:19 AM
:nixweiss:
The dealer meeting starts on the 27th. When do we think the website will have the cvo's????  that same day??? Can not remember what happened last year


As I recall, it took a few days after the dealer show last year.  Maybe that's because we crashed the server (or I'm remembering it all wrong)!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: trwtow on July 13, 2010, 07:03:55 PM
they will probably come out with one better then the one i got im not going to even look just live here in my dome of happiness  :pepper:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: North Star on July 13, 2010, 07:29:10 PM
they will probably come out with one better then the one i got im not going to even look just live here in my dome of happiness  :pepper:

that's the spirit.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 13, 2010, 11:19:19 PM
they will probably come out with one better then the one i got im not going to even look just live here in my dome of happiness  :pepper:
Bet you look.  :) har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 14, 2010, 01:55:20 AM
2011 CVO Servicar with an aluminum block turbocharged small block Chevy and ginormous ape hangars with long leather tassles hanging down.  Just sayin'.....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: naitram on July 14, 2010, 08:23:33 AM
2011 CVO Servicar with an aluminum block turbocharged small block Chevy and ginormous ape hangars with long leather tassles hanging down.  Just sayin'.....

but you say that every year
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 14, 2010, 09:29:53 AM
but you say that every year

The apes are new to the vision this year.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ultrafxr on July 14, 2010, 10:16:59 AM
My dealer told me that they got word that the 2011 CVO Ultras would be released in waves like they did in '06 - only one color at a time.  This is to limit the availability and drive up price of course.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Rooster on July 14, 2010, 10:19:04 AM
My dealer told me that they got word that the 2011 CVO Ultras would be released in waves like they did in '06 - only one color at a time.  This is to limit the availability and drive up price of course.
OF course
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wild Card on July 14, 2010, 11:24:35 AM
My dealer told me that they got word that the 2011 CVO Ultras would be released in waves like they did in '06 - only one color at a time.  This is to limit the availability and drive up price of course.

Well, that, and I'm sure that they don't have them all built upon release date.  I'm sure those employees like being employeed year round!  Seems like a smart move since they can also correct unforeseen issues in later batches if something is discovered early...Ok, "correct" may be wishful thinking!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 14, 2010, 11:51:01 AM
Makes since since they did not have much trouble selling the mid year Ultra.

I bet they still announce  three colors on each cvo on the 27th
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ultrafxr on July 14, 2010, 01:23:39 PM
Makes since since they did not have much trouble selling the mid year Ultra.

I bet they still announce  three colors on each cvo on the 27th
I would think so.  But you may have to wait if your favorite color is not in the first wave.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 14, 2010, 01:30:48 PM
I would think so.  But you may have to wait if your favorite color is not in the first wave.

agreed but hasn't that always been tru??
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: laylonlor on July 14, 2010, 02:05:44 PM
it will be all junk, like always ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 14, 2010, 02:46:40 PM
It's been a while since I've been on, but got some info, you can take it or trash it, I don't care.  GM/Owner of local dealer said the following for 2011 CVO's:

Road Glide (full tourer)(I question this, I don't see them going away from the Ultra)
Street Glide (with a blacked out version)
Fat Bob (yet again)
Softail Convertable

Old news ...chck out this thread about 2-3 weeks ago
By the way you forgot the ultra

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ultrafxr on July 14, 2010, 04:12:04 PM
agreed but hasn't that always been tru??

It was in '06 but when I got my '07 in November '06 I could have had any of the three colors.  All were available at that time.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 14, 2010, 05:43:39 PM
It was in '06 but when I got my '07 in November '06 I could have had any of the three colors.  All were available at that time.
Not the way it started with the SEEG's.....In '04 they made the B&B ones 1st and then the O&B ones........had a O&B 'show bike' that they moved around for the 1st few months before producing them.  :) spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 14, 2010, 08:03:27 PM
Not the way it started with the SEEG's.....In '04 they made the B&B ones 1st and then the O&B ones........had a O&B 'show bike' that they moved around for the 1st few months before producing them.  :) spyder
I found that out the hard way... it was a long 9 month wait to get mine. :bigcry:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: swat1 on July 14, 2010, 09:04:17 PM
Blacked out Street Glide< I like the sound of that 1
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 14, 2010, 09:10:22 PM
Blacked out Street Glide< I like the sound of that 1
But will it look as good as the one in this thread - It took from June to Nov. to finish, but here is my version of a SESG (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=43611.0)?

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 14, 2010, 10:41:29 PM
For what it's worth, a buddy of mine just put down a deposit with the local dealer on a 2011 CVO Road Glide.

Mmmmmm, someone may know something???

Just passing along what I heard today.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: JETCVO on July 15, 2010, 01:34:40 AM
Is it to early to start discussing what the 2011 Screamin eagles will be????  colors???   Models ???  changes???
Well for me, I would like to see a balanced direct mounted 103+ Engine on a Road King frame.
I'm sick-n-tired of rubber mounted wobbly engines and rear ends!
Show me the beef in the front end; give me big ass triple trees that don't move.
Lower the engine in the frame, drop the tank down and knock 100 lbs off dry weight.
Dare ya go!   :drink:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 15, 2010, 09:09:45 AM
I found that out the hard way... it was a long 9 month wait to get mine. :bigcry:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

ME TOO..
 MY O4 DID NOT ARRIVE TILL FEB. 05
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ultrafxr on July 15, 2010, 10:04:33 AM
Not the way it started with the SEEG's.....In '04 they made the B&B ones 1st and then the O&B ones........had a O&B 'show bike' that they moved around for the 1st few months before producing them.  :) spyder
Understand.  Just saying that while they had backed away from that at least for a while it looks like they are going back to it.  Can't oversaturate the market now can we?  Gotta keep 'em drooling and keep demand up - with prices of course!

As for me I doubt I'll catch the fever.  If the SE Road Glide is there and all I hope it is I might go for that.  But in any case I think I'll be keeping my seuc for quite a while. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on July 15, 2010, 10:33:10 AM
Well for me, I would like to see a balanced direct mounted 103+ Engine on a Road King frame.
I'm sick-n-tired of rubber mounted wobbly engines and rear ends!
Show me the beef in the front end; give me big ass triple trees that don't move.
Lower the engine in the frame, drop the tank down and knock 100 lbs off dry weight.
Dare ya go!   :drink:
I too would LOVE to see a balanced motor, with slightly harder durometer urethane mounts. That would be a smooth as a baby's a$$.  A water cooled 2000 cc version of the Revelution motor that puts out a solid 130+ ft/lbs of Torque, with at least 100 ft/lbs by 2,000 rpm.  Add a new dash with a REAL integrated Nav, and I'd be all over that in a heartbeat!  A guy can dream, can't he?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 15, 2010, 11:28:11 AM
Only 12 more days :pepper: :pepper: :pepper:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 15, 2010, 01:34:13 PM
I too would LOVE to see a balanced motor, with slightly harder durometer urethane mounts. That would be a smooth as a baby's a$$.  A water cooled 2000 cc version of the Revelution motor that puts out a solid 130+ ft/lbs of Torque, with at least 100 ft/lbs by 2,000 rpm.  Add a new dash with a REAL integrated Nav, and I'd be all over that in a heartbeat!  A guy can dream, can't he?

I've always wondered why they build a "A" & "B" engine? I sure liked my "B" engine in my Heritage.
Wait, I think it's that "Tradition" thing!  Of coarse, we really didn't have HD baggers first, now did we?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 16, 2010, 09:55:59 PM
Only 12 more days :pepper: :pepper: :pepper:

Are we there yet? I can't really say that I'm in the market, but I am very curious as to what the new model year has to offer.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Jock on July 16, 2010, 09:57:04 PM
Are we there yet? I can't really say that I'm in the market, but I am very curious as to what the new model year has to offer.

Agreed!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 16, 2010, 09:59:47 PM
Are we there yet? I can't really say that I'm in the market, but I am very curious as to what the new model year has to offer.
SOSSE :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 16, 2010, 10:11:06 PM
SOSSE :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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 :huepfenlol2: With all that money you're getting from the FD retirement, you know you're itching for a new one. Oh, that's right, you never did get approval from the war department.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 16, 2010, 10:13:00 PM

 :huepfenlol2: With all that money you're getting from the FD retirement, you know you're itching for a new one. Oh, that's right, you never did get approval from the war department.
I couldn't even get approval to retire... I'm still working. ;) ;D

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Hot Rod on July 16, 2010, 10:17:09 PM
I couldn't even get approval to retire... I'm still working. ;) Me to but i am getting a Brand new one!! Hot Rod  :2vrolijk_21:
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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: JETCVO on July 16, 2010, 11:56:02 PM
I too would LOVE to see a balanced motor, with slightly harder durometer urethane mounts. That would be a smooth as a baby's a$$.  A water cooled 2000 cc version of the Revelution motor that puts out a solid 130+ ft/lbs of Torque, with at least 100 ft/lbs by 2,000 rpm.  Add a new dash with a REAL integrated Nav, and I'd be all over that in a heartbeat!  A guy can dream, can't he?
"Yes we can"   :beatdeadhorse:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Texas 103 on July 17, 2010, 01:05:11 AM
OF course

OR to handle all the paint complaints...one at a time
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 19, 2010, 10:57:07 AM
8 more days............or is it 9?  :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 19, 2010, 11:43:51 AM
I hope 8
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 19, 2010, 11:45:21 AM
For any of your going to Vegas for the meeting do not forget the camera....and review how to post pictures...

 :worthless: :worthless:  


Wish I could be there
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 20, 2010, 10:56:58 AM
Only one more week.....Can't wait to see the colores and the RG
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 21, 2010, 09:25:33 AM
I think I will call it.... the Road Glide Ultra...............
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 21, 2010, 10:24:11 AM
I think I will call it.... the Road Glide Ultra...............

...with a windscreen that works (optional of course).  Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 21, 2010, 11:28:17 AM
I think I will call it.... the Road Glide Ultra...............

They could rename it "Tour Glide", from years past................
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 21, 2010, 02:16:30 PM
...with a windscreen that works (optional of course).  Doc

Do I detect a little hostility towards the Road Glide (the sweetest riding tour bike ever made by Harley Davidson or anyone else for that matter)??  :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 21, 2010, 02:25:16 PM
Do I detect a little hostility towards the Road Glide (the sweetest riding tour bike ever made by Harley Davidson or anyone else for that matter)??  :P



So whachuwan for the 103 black knight ultra of urine??  :D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 21, 2010, 04:01:23 PM


So whachuwan for the 103 black knight ultra of urine??  :D

I only got about $73,000 in her.............make me anoffer!  :huepfenjump3:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 22, 2010, 02:43:53 PM
Is this your first glimpse of a Green 2011 sesg?  this preview pick Pic was seen in Motosport.ch magazine with a report to be printed in the next issue of riding the 2011 cvo in the west rocky mountains
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on July 22, 2010, 02:54:31 PM
strange bike - looks like a pre 09 frame and a Roadking tank.

I won't comment the colour  ::)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 22, 2010, 02:55:03 PM
Is this your first glimpse of a Green 2011 sesg?  this preview pick Pic was seen in Motosport.ch magazine with a report of riding the 2011 cvo in the west rocky mountains

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=160530;image)
Interesting.... check out the tank/console. Looks like two caps. :nixweiss:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Ron Hawkins on July 22, 2010, 03:03:58 PM
definitely an 09-later frame , the docking points are visible.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on July 22, 2010, 03:26:23 PM
Interesting.... check out the tank/console. Looks like two caps. :nixweiss:

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Green and orange is screamin for d00d's basement!
He's 1/2 way there now.
Green is the future d00d.
Go Green! Help the enviroment!

 ;)

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 22, 2010, 03:44:07 PM

Green and orange is screamin for d00d's basement!
He's 1/2 way there now.
Green is the future d00d.
Go Green! Help the enviroment!

 ;)

SBB
I am going green... keeping my money out of MoCo's pocket. :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on July 22, 2010, 03:48:12 PM
Look close!  It looks like the factory is working on it's own 4 in the face!  Check out those lowers!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 22, 2010, 03:50:53 PM
Look close!  It looks like the factory is working on it's own 4 in the face!  Check out those lowers!
Good eye... does look like something is there other then glove box. Wheels look interesting too... just a few more days to go.

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 22, 2010, 04:36:47 PM
I hope that green has some super-great flake in it.  8) spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 22, 2010, 04:41:56 PM
Good eye... does look like something is there other then glove box. Wheels look interesting too... just a few more days to go.

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But Green?  :o  Ewwwwwwww.  I hope the other two colors are better...wouldn't catch that one in my garage, lowers with speakers or not!!  That is butt-ugly!!!   :puke:
:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 22, 2010, 04:51:25 PM
But Green?  :o  Ewwwwwwww.  I hope the other two colors are better...wouldn't catch that one in my garage, lowers with speakers or not!!  That is butt-ugly!!!   :puke:
:devil:

Well, at least you're not on the fence about it.  ??? spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 22, 2010, 05:07:31 PM
Well, at least you're not on the fence about it.  ??? spyder

Never been a fan of green motorcycles (or any vehicle for that matter)....except those HD's that were in olive drab.  Hopefully, they'll make those lowers, if they have speakers, retro to 2010 SESG's...I'd definitely get a set of those.   :2vrolijk_21:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hdbrad03 on July 22, 2010, 05:11:47 PM
BUT UGLY!  :nixweiss:


 :bananarock: :bananarock:
      Brad
Title: 2011 cvo ??
Post by: kurtlange on July 22, 2010, 06:17:51 PM
found this in another forum. looks interesting...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mtnbykr/harley/cvo2011.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011 cvo ??
Post by: spydglide on July 22, 2010, 06:26:03 PM
This must be the only 'spy-shot' available.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 06:30:27 PM
Wow ...I hope that green looks better live   yuk
Title: Re: 2011 cvo ??
Post by: fresh oil and pipes on July 22, 2010, 06:51:04 PM
UhOh it's Green they might get me.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 22, 2010, 06:58:13 PM
I'll definately pass on the green.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: fresh oil and pipes on July 22, 2010, 07:44:02 PM
Green is the fastest and most reliable everyone knows that and the beautiful BSR's love it
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: frankshd on July 22, 2010, 07:54:07 PM
john deer tractors are green,  some things should be left alone  :nixweiss: :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011 cvo ??
Post by: HOGMIKE on July 22, 2010, 07:56:06 PM
found this in another forum. looks interesting...

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v319/mtnbykr/harley/cvo2011.jpg)

Damn, and I just painted one of my other bikes that color this Spring!!
 :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on July 22, 2010, 08:43:40 PM
Sorry guys, but  I like green.  Looks exciting to me.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DavidB on July 22, 2010, 08:50:56 PM
john deer tractors are green,  some things should be left alone  :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

Same motor as a Harley. Puttt Put Puttt Putt :dier_13:
Title: 2011 CVO Release Date - 7/27?
Post by: Majorrocky on July 22, 2010, 10:43:03 PM
Not sure if this has already been posted elsewhere on this forum... almost positive that it has but I couldn't find it...   :nixweiss:

According to this article -- http://motorcycles.about.com/b/2010/06/18/introducing-the-2011-harley-davidson-cvo-models.htm -- it looks like the press date on 2011 CVO models is July 27.   :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011 CVO Release Date - 7/27?
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 10:48:59 PM
Merge this with 2011

Title: Re: 2011 CVO Release Date - 7/27?
Post by: 2harleys on July 22, 2010, 10:50:20 PM
Waiting "un" patiently   :)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 22, 2010, 10:58:43 PM
When you enlarge the photo it appears as though the dash houses a different stereo. And it does look like speakers in the lowers. There is no center gas cap. But it looks like Custom Vehicle Operations logo is scripted in the center of the chrome tank console. Exhaust tips are black and the motor appears blacked out too. So is this a 2011 CVO, or is it a 2010 custom Street Glide? A few more days and we'll know for sure. 

I'm not sure I was seeing a CVO logo there in the middle.  Too distorted when enlarged for me to know with any certainty.  One thing that is obvious though is a chrome hydraulic clutch master cylinder.  Not much of that in the aftermarket nor anywhere else in the Harley line besides the CVO bikes.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 10:59:35 PM
5 days.  Can not wait
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 11:01:14 PM
the photo is definitely a cvo
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 22, 2010, 11:03:35 PM
Those 'lowers' look to be completely unlike any previous ones.  :-\ spyder
Title: Re: 2011 CVO Release Date - 7/27?
Post by: Majorrocky on July 22, 2010, 11:05:46 PM
Merge this with 2011



Delete it completely if it's redundant.  Seriously... it's no skin off my nose...

I saw the 2011 thread but did not see a mention of the 7/27 date so I thought I would start a new one with that info... now of course I did not read through all 24 pages of posts on that 2011 thread...  :o
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 11:08:05 PM
no kidding the lowers and tank make one various curious
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 22, 2010, 11:09:22 PM
the photo is definitely a cvo

The fairing certainly has the "swoop" that Harley has been reusing incessantly with only minor variations since the SEEGs.  Losing the fuel door and going to Road King type caps and fuel gauge or (even more unlikely) dual caps on a bagger is a big change relative to the standards of a company that isn't comfortable with big changes.  Perhaps if they've gone to Road King type cap and fuel gauge in the tank the old fairing mounted gas gauge will now get the oil temp gauge stock?

Interesting pics have been seen pre-release before though.  Some were and some weren't on the money.  Only thing I'd dare say for sure is we'll know for sure on the release date.
Title: Re: 2011 CVO Release Date - 7/27?
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 11:12:28 PM
Just think this year we should keep it all in one thread
Thanks

Dood can you fix
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 11:16:10 PM
true but the 2010 photos at Nino,s, restaurant   of the sesg turned out to be dead spot on
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 22, 2010, 11:17:29 PM
true but the 2010 photos at the  of the sesg turned out to be dead spot on

I was wrong, two things I'd say for sure.  We'll know for sure on release date and; green yuck!


Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 22, 2010, 11:57:49 PM
well at least we have a new watermelon .....or frog
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 23, 2010, 12:18:43 AM

Ahhh, at last, a voice of reason!
Forgot about the chrome starters!

SBB

But I like my chrome starter!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 23, 2010, 12:36:30 AM
Definitely the new CVO Street Glide...hideous color choice.  Black wheels...ugh!  That console is like nothing we've seen before and it definitely looks factory with the CVO emblem.  The stereo looks different and those are obviously speakers in the lowers.  If the engine is blacked out too (and it looks like it may be), I would hope that there is another version with chrome wheels and a motor that isn't blacked out.  The front lowers still look to be chrome in the photo.  The only other thing to consider is how far off the Harley photo shoots are usually off compared to the actual colors...maybe that green bike is actually red in person.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: HOGMIKE on July 23, 2010, 12:51:16 AM
Can you say "Kermit Glide"?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 23, 2010, 01:37:20 AM
Hard to make out much real detail.  Obviously using the flush mount gas cap and gauge or some newer iteration thereof.  The speakers in the lowers are seen well enough also.  Also looks like the rest of the lower might be reshaped a bit.  Looks like it might kick out a bit wider at the bottom.  Still has the hydraulic clutch.  Hard to tell but kind of looks like the bigger ignition switch with the remote lock.

I can't claim to see the radio well enough to know it's different or not.  I'd not be disappointed if the HK was either put down or significantly updated.  Look to the left of the windshield and to the right of the left mirror.  Something is sticking up there and covers the view of the same of the green on the fairing.  GPS and GPS mount on a Street Glide?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on July 23, 2010, 04:58:50 AM
... Look to the left of the windshield and to the right of the left mirror.  Something is sticking up there and covers the view of the same of the green on the fairing.  GPS and GPS mount on a Street Glide?


at first view I had the same thought. But comparing left and right side it looks more like part of inner fairing.

If the picture is for real I wonder why they went back to the pre-09 form for the exhaust.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 23, 2010, 07:55:50 AM

at first view I had the same thought. But comparing left and right side it looks more like part of inner fairing.

If the picture is for real I wonder why they went back to the pre-09 form for the exhaust.

Hopefully they have reverted back to the cleaner looking, user friendly exhaust system.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 23, 2010, 08:22:49 AM
 :nixweiss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vXDPfdYrg0&feature=fvw
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 23, 2010, 08:23:58 AM
Fills out the "Skittles" color palette...red, yellow, green, purple, orange... :)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: billyo2222 on July 23, 2010, 08:32:45 AM
 :o that is one fugly v-rod!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 23, 2010, 08:35:54 AM
Fills out the "Skittles" color palette...red, yellow, green, purple, orange... :)
:2vrolijk_21: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: skreminegul07 on July 23, 2010, 09:09:04 AM
Money is green.  HD will take it from you.
 :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: amigo Jorge on July 23, 2010, 11:22:59 AM
Hard to make out much real detail.  Obviously using the flush mount gas cap and gauge or some newer iteration thereof.  The speakers in the lowers are seen well enough also.  Also looks like the rest of the lower might be reshaped a bit.  Looks like it might kick out a bit wider at the bottom.  Still has the hydraulic clutch.  Hard to tell but kind of looks like the bigger ignition switch with the remote lock.

I can't claim to see the radio well enough to know it's different or not.  I'd not be disappointed if the HK was either put down or significantly updated.  Look to the left of the windshield and to the right of the left mirror.  Something is sticking up there and covers the view of the same of the green on the fairing.  GPS and GPS mount on a Street Glide?

I will like after I paint her in orange   :orange:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 23, 2010, 11:26:35 AM
The color is designed by the House of Kermit.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 23, 2010, 12:17:43 PM
Thanks a lot, now I can't get the tune out my head....

"It's not that easy being green
Having to spend each day the color of the leaves..."

Bill
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 23, 2010, 12:19:38 PM
I hope this color looks better live OR THAT THE OTHER TWO COLORS ARE A LOT BETTER :o
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: harleyteam on July 23, 2010, 12:57:31 PM
:nixweiss:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vXDPfdYrg0&feature=fvw

I've seen Harley do some strange things over the years, (road glide is strange)
but they'd never do a rear fender lookin THAT UGLY.

even the customizer of that bike could have done a WAYYYYY better job :nervous:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 23, 2010, 03:45:49 PM
I like it. I bet it POPS in the sunlight. Wasn't this the same topic that everyone was talking about the pictures don't do the real paint job justice? I know it's not the MOCO pics, but I would imagine it looks much better in person. If a RGU is that bright sparkling green....I'm on it.  :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grc on July 23, 2010, 03:53:06 PM

I think that is the new electric model, and thus the "green" color.  The battery packs are in the saddlebags, and the engine is fake.  Doesn't matter what kind of fuel tank they put on it, since it doesn't use gasoline, and they grabbed one from a Road King because it was handy. 


Jerry ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 23, 2010, 03:54:18 PM
I think that is the new electric model, and thus the "green" color.  The battery packs are in the saddlebags, and the engine is fake.  Doesn't matter what kind of fuel tank they put on it, since it doesn't use gasoline, and they grabbed one from a Road King because it was handy. 


Jerry ;)

Oooooo.....even better!  :cucumber:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: napalm on July 23, 2010, 04:27:09 PM
Looks like 2011 is going to be very interesting....

napalm
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WestCoastRuss on July 23, 2010, 04:32:49 PM
....don't suppose there is a radiator???.....nah  :nervous:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LFMC Pharaoh on July 23, 2010, 04:43:02 PM
That is so obviously someone's V-Rod with added bags, road glide fairing and a hack job of a rear fender skirt and filmed in a driveway????  Come on people - does anyone seriously believe that is a new model for 2011?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 23, 2010, 05:22:37 PM
Back to the 'green' bike...........what's that wrinkled-look on top of the lowers?  Is it just my tired ole eyes not focusing correctly?  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 23, 2010, 06:00:18 PM
That is so obviously someone's V-Rod with added bags, road glide fairing and a hack job of a rear fender skirt and filmed in a driveway????  Come on people - does anyone seriously believe that is a new model for 2011?
Really doubt anyone did.  Just making fun. If nothing else the automotive radio in the fairing told the tale.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 23, 2010, 06:51:46 PM
I like it. I bet it POPS in the sunlight. Wasn't this the same topic that everyone was talking about the pictures don't do the real paint job justice? I know it's not the MOCO pics, but I would imagine it looks much better in person. If a RGU is that bright sparkling green....I'm on it.  :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber: :cucumber:
Exactly....you hit the nail on the head. I'm holding all reservations until they are seen in person.

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mattm on July 23, 2010, 06:57:17 PM
Maybe that "2nd" gas cap is a radiator cap?  :confused5:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: YELLOWBIRD on July 23, 2010, 07:13:45 PM
 FYI,If you enlarge the photo, you can notice a blk wire of some type, right on top of right side chrome bracket for the passager sissy bar. Looks like it's going into the right saddle bag. Could this be for an amp. for the speakers in the lower fairings?   


YELLOWBIRD
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 23, 2010, 07:15:22 PM
FYI,If you enlarge the photo, you can notice a blk wire of some type, right on top of right side chrome bracket for the passager sissy bar. Looks like it's going into the right saddle bag. Could this be for an amp. for the speakers in the lower fairings?   


YELLOWBIRD

If there were going to put an amp in, it would be in the fairing.  Anything else would be too stupid for even Harley.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: YELLOWBIRD on July 23, 2010, 07:28:18 PM
If there were going to put an amp in, it would be in the fairing.  Anything else would be too stupid for even Harley.
 
 
I too agree, about putting an amp in the fairing! I was just pointing out that I saw a odd black wire coming from what it looks like the right saddle bag.



YELLOWBIRD
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 23, 2010, 07:42:18 PM
Gosh I sure hope we can get answers to these questions next week.  Sure hope you people going to the dealer meeeting share photos next week..Only 4 days
 :worthless:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tjstreetglide on July 23, 2010, 07:47:22 PM
Back to the 'green' bike...........what's that wrinkled-look on top of the lowers?  Is it just my tired ole eyes not focusing correctly?  spyder
The lowers do look different. The wrinkle could be a reflection? To me the lowers look smaller and the speaker is turned up a little. could it be that the lowers fit with the mustache engine guard?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 23, 2010, 07:50:55 PM
The lowers do look different. The wrinkle could be a reflection? To me the lowers look smaller and the speaker is turned up a little. could it be that the lowers fit with the mustache engine guard?
That would be my guess also.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: JETCVO on July 23, 2010, 09:34:03 PM
That would be my guess also.  spyder
Lowers for mustaches!  :drink:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 23, 2010, 09:44:37 PM
Lowers for mustaches!  :drink:
:) ;) :moustache: :2thumbsup:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 23, 2010, 11:24:37 PM
FYI,If you enlarge the photo, you can notice a blk wire of some type, right on top of right side chrome bracket for the passager sissy bar. Looks like it's going into the right saddle bag. Could this be for an amp. for the speakers in the lower fairings?   


YELLOWBIRD

My bet is that the wire is for the detachable tour pac and the power locks.

I wonder if they are new lowers, if they finally made the vents power operated from a control on the handlebar?

Now that would be cool!  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 23, 2010, 11:32:53 PM
If there were going to put an amp in, it would be in the fairing.  Anything else would be too stupid for even Harley.

I sense a hint of sarcasm here.  ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 24, 2010, 12:00:35 AM
My bet is that the wire is for the detachable tour pac and the power locks.

I wonder if they are new lowers, if they finally made the vents power operated from a control on the handlebar?

Now that would be cool!  :2vrolijk_21:

What detachable tourpak?  I thought that was for a detachable backrest on a Street Glide.  Maybe they put a brake lamp in the backrest and that's what the wire is for.

I was also thinking that it would be a bit strange to have the speakers in the lowers with exposed cones.  Wouldn't you think they would cover the speakers with grilles?  I guess all of this curiosity will be gone in a few more days and we'll know what's really coming out.  By the way, those lowers do look quite different, but I don't know if the engine guard looks like  a moustache bar.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 24, 2010, 08:57:47 AM
What detachable tourpak?  I thought that was for a detachable backrest on a Street Glide.  Maybe they put a brake lamp in the backrest and that's what the wire is for.

I was also thinking that it would be a bit strange to have the speakers in the lowers with exposed cones.  Wouldn't you think they would cover the speakers with grilles?  I guess all of this curiosity will be gone in a few more days and we'll know what's really coming out.  By the way, those lowers do look quite different, but I don't know if the engine guard looks like  a moustache bar.
Wouldn't surprise me if the SESG2 has a detachable tourpak this year. They did the same thing in 04/05.... 04's didn't have TP and 05's had detachable chopped TP.

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 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: napalm on July 24, 2010, 09:11:52 AM
 :orange:Three more days...let the heavy breathing begin!!!! :orange:

 :huepfenjump3:2011.... :huepfenjump3:2011... :huepfenjump3:2011.... :huepfenjump3:

napalm
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grc on July 24, 2010, 09:51:19 AM
FYI,If you enlarge the photo, you can notice a blk wire of some type, right on top of right side chrome bracket for the passager sissy bar. Looks like it's going into the right saddle bag. Could this be for an amp. for the speakers in the lower fairings?   


YELLOWBIRD

Please see my previous post.  How do you suppose they get the juice from the battery pack in the saddlebag up to the electric motor?  Duh!


Jerry ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 24, 2010, 10:20:11 AM
Got the scoop on this new bike in a dream I had last night that must be true because the information came in three scenes from pool boy past, pool boy present and pool boy extra toasty (he'd just had a minor malfunction with something called a Spirit Free-Floating Universal Catastrophe Kill System [Spirit F-f$%* System). 

Anyway; Spirit past was trying to maximize profits at the expense of Spirit present's long term health.  So they were squabbling a bit and it was hard to get a lot of good information.  Spirit Extra Toasty floated in from 2022 and was al giddy and happy about some new status just conferred as a "boutique bike" maker eschewed by the masses and adored by 82 remaining old farts with walkers.  Seemed they'd just released a new chromed SE Walker Deployment Cradle for $2247.99; add $3184.50 with power assist.

Ok, come to think of it the Spirits didn't have a lot to say about this bike.  Never mind.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 24, 2010, 10:45:49 AM
Got the scoop on this new bike in a dream I had last night that must be true because the information came in three scenes from pool boy past, pool boy present and pool boy extra toasty (he'd just had a minor malfunction with something called a Spirit Free-Floating Universal Catastrophe Kill System [Spirit F-f$%* System). 

Anyway; Spirit past was trying to maximize profits at the expense of Spirit present's long term health.  So they were squabbling a bit and it was hard to get a lot of good information.  Spirit Extra Toasty floated in from 2022 and was al giddy and happy about some new status just conferred as a "boutique bike" maker eschewed by the masses and adored by 82 remaining old farts with walkers.  Seemed they'd just released a new chromed SE Walker Deployment Cradle for $2247.99; add $3184.50 with power assist.

Ok, come to think of it the Spirits didn't have a lot to say about this bike.  Never mind.
Is it too hot to ride this morning or did you spike your coffee with some kinda strange brew?  har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 24, 2010, 11:02:50 AM
Got the scoop on this new bike in a dream I had last night that must be true because the information came in three scenes from pool boy past, pool boy present and pool boy extra toasty (he'd just had a minor malfunction with something called a Spirit Free-Floating Universal Catastrophe Kill System [Spirit F-f$%* System). 

Anyway; Spirit past was trying to maximize profits at the expense of Spirit present's long term health.  So they were squabbling a bit and it was hard to get a lot of good information.  Spirit Extra Toasty floated in from 2022 and was al giddy and happy about some new status just conferred as a "boutique bike" maker eschewed by the masses and adored by 82 remaining old farts with walkers.  Seemed they'd just released a new chromed SE Walker Deployment Cradle for $2247.99; add $3184.50 with power assist.

Ok, come to think of it the Spirits didn't have a lot to say about this bike.  Never mind.

OMG Don"s a goner, and I was looking forward to meeting him in Maggie.  :nervous:   Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 24, 2010, 11:18:11 AM
Is it too hot to ride this morning or did you spike your coffee with some kinda strange brew?  har.  spyder

OMG Don"s a goner, and I was looking forward to meeting him in Maggie.  :nervous:   Doc


It's ok guys.  Just finishing an all-nighter.  I'm too old for this nonsense anymore and doing it warps my outlook through the looking glass.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: trwtow on July 24, 2010, 12:39:38 PM
kinda like the green cool pix some one said 3 more days
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 24, 2010, 01:56:55 PM
3days
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 24, 2010, 02:04:16 PM
3days
I guess that settles it.........we've already named the 'green' one.  :mango: :cucumber: :pineapple: har.  :drink: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: laylonlor on July 24, 2010, 02:49:57 PM
just got the low down on the new hd's,...... suziki has bought them out and there putting the hayabusa  motor on all harleys ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 49445CVO on July 24, 2010, 02:59:11 PM
I guess that settles it.........we've already named the 'green' one.  :mango: :cucumber: :pineapple: har.  :drink: spyder

What about the Hulk, Jolly Green Giant, Green Bean, 7-UP, Sprite or Double Mint (two toned green)?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grc on July 24, 2010, 03:13:10 PM
What about the Hulk, Jolly Green Giant, Green Bean, 7-UP, Sprite or Double Mint (two toned green)?

How about adding a yellow stripe, yellow seat, and calling it a John Deere?  Mowing attachment is optional.


Jerry
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 24, 2010, 08:46:17 PM
We haven't even seen the bike yet and the moniker "Kermit" has stuck. (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=160599;image)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 24, 2010, 08:57:10 PM
Green Meanie
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 24, 2010, 10:15:45 PM
What about the Hulk, Jolly Green Giant, Green Bean, 7-UP, Sprite or Double Mint (two toned green)?

or an old classic "watermelon"
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on July 25, 2010, 12:02:33 AM
Watermelon is taken!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 25, 2010, 08:55:31 AM
Currently on a little trip.  Stopped at a dealer yesterday to get a t-shirt.  Started talking to a salesman about the 2011's.  He showed me a pic of the 2011 Ultra RG.  This pic was small and printed on regular paper, so the quality was poor, but the color on this bike looked terrible.  I hope the other color options are better.  I guess we will know in a couple more days.

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Screamin on July 25, 2010, 10:38:00 AM
I suppose Phlegm or Sinus Infection wouldn't sit well w/ the marketing folks.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 25, 2010, 10:40:05 AM
I suppose Phlegm or Sinus Infection wouldn't sit well w/ the marketing folks.
Nor would :puke: green. :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Majorrocky on July 25, 2010, 10:40:38 AM
Being one myself, I prefer Gemini...  :vrolijk_10: :vrolijk_10:  If I had one that's what I'd call it...   :2vrolijk_21:

Or maybe the "Big" Cucumber...  :cucumber:
Or maybe Jalapeno...   :jalapeno:

Or maybe Emerald...    :balloon2:

Or maybe the Green Lantern...    :biggthumpup:

Or... oh, nevermind...   :confused5:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Screamin on July 25, 2010, 10:43:51 AM
Nor would :puke: green. :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Thought of that d00d but it's have to be after a night of drinking Irish beer  ;)  :D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 25, 2010, 01:55:59 PM
Being one myself, I prefer Gemini...  :vrolijk_10: :vrolijk_10:  If I had one that's what I'd call it...   :2vrolijk_21:

Or maybe the "Big" Cucumber...  :cucumber:
Or maybe Jalapeno...   :jalapeno:

Or maybe Emerald...    :balloon2:

Or maybe the Green Lantern...    :biggthumpup:

Or... oh, nevermind...   :confused5:


Or how about "Blarney"?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 25, 2010, 02:40:43 PM
Before anybody actually owns one of these, and I can't offend anyone yet, I just want to officially say that no matter what you guys decide to call it, that's a color combination I don't like and would never own.  Just sayin'...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 25, 2010, 04:09:21 PM
Before anybody actually owns one of these, and I can't offend anyone yet, I just want to officially say that no matter what you guys decide to call it, that's a color combination I don't like and would never own.  Just sayin'...

Ditto
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 25, 2010, 04:36:06 PM
Before anybody actually owns one of these, and I can't offend anyone yet, I just want to officially say that no matter what you guys decide to call it, that's a color combination I don't like and would never own.  Just sayin'...

+ 1
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 25, 2010, 04:38:07 PM
Being one myself, I prefer Gemini...  :vrolijk_10: :vrolijk_10:  If I had one that's what I'd call it...   :2vrolijk_21:

Or maybe the "Big" Cucumber...  :cucumber:
Or maybe Jalapeno...   :jalapeno:

Or maybe Emerald...    :balloon2:

Or maybe the Green Lantern...    :biggthumpup:

Or... oh, nevermind...   :confused5:

Jalapeno on a Steeek.   :huepfenlol2:

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 49445CVO on July 25, 2010, 04:39:19 PM
How about adding a yellow stripe, yellow seat, and calling it a John Deere?  Mowing attachment is optional.


Jerry

Good one!

 :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on July 25, 2010, 04:41:19 PM
Jalapeno on a Steeek.   :huepfenlol2:

:devil:


So it's settled!?  The green FLHXSE2 will be Jose?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on July 25, 2010, 05:04:53 PM
I now have a pic of a 2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra that my dealer
gave me yesterday. It is an ugly cream and brown color and he said
that it was the worst of the 3 colors. Bike looks great other than the
color of course. I just hope they make one in YELLOW. My next choice
would be an EMERALD GREEN!!!!!! :2vrolijk_21: :bananarock: :jalapeno: :cucumber:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 25, 2010, 05:11:07 PM
I now have a pic of a 2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra that my dealer
gave me yesterday. It is an ugly cream and brown color and he said
that it was the worst of the 3 colors. Bike looks great other than the
color of course. I just hope they make one in YELLOW. My next choice
would be an EMERALD GREEN!!!!!! :2vrolijk_21: :bananarock: :jalapeno: :cucumber:
:worthless:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on July 25, 2010, 05:11:36 PM
I now have a pic of a 2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra that my dealer
gave me yesterday. It is an ugly cream and brown color and he said
that it was the worst of the 3 colors. Bike looks great other than the
color of course. I just hope they make one in YELLOW. My next choice
would be an EMERALD GREEN!!!!!! :2vrolijk_21: :bananarock: :jalapeno: :cucumber:

and you haven't scanned and posted this pic why?   :nixweiss:

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 25, 2010, 05:13:31 PM
I now have a pic of a 2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra that my dealer
gave me yesterday. It is an ugly cream and brown color and he said
that it was the worst of the 3 colors. Bike looks great other than the
color of course. I just hope they make one in YELLOW. My next choice
would be an EMERALD GREEN!!!!!! :2vrolijk_21: :bananarock: :jalapeno: :cucumber:

Come one man!  Give it up!  Our feet are tapping waiting for it.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 25, 2010, 05:18:49 PM
Currently on a little trip.  Stopped at a dealer yesterday to get a t-shirt.  Started talking to a salesman about the 2011's.  He showed me a pic of the 2011 Ultra RG.  This pic was small and printed on regular paper, so the quality was poor, but the color on this bike looked terrible.  I hope the other color options are better.  I guess we will know in a couple more days.



So what was the color combo of the RG Ultra? Could you tell?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ultrafxr on July 25, 2010, 05:52:01 PM
I was at Mike's Famous H-D in New Castle, DE, today and saw the color chart for the standard bikes but they had nothing yet for the CVOs.  Go figure!
Title: 2011 Bikes
Post by: muddypaws on July 25, 2010, 06:20:20 PM
The 2011 should be out Tuesday.
Title: Re: 2011 Bikes
Post by: spydglide on July 25, 2010, 06:46:12 PM
The 2011 should be out Tuesday.
Tuesday midnight?  :confused5:  spyder
Title: Re: 2011 Bikes
Post by: Fired00d on July 25, 2010, 06:52:25 PM
Tuesday midnight?  :confused5:  spyder
Dealer meeting starts Tuesday July 27 and is in Las Vegas so I would hope they (pics) would be on the MoCo site by at least noon Las Vegas time. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011 Bikes
Post by: Gettinold on July 25, 2010, 06:59:20 PM
Tuesday midnight?  :confused5:  spyder
Another new one already Spyder.  :nixweiss:  ;D
Title: Re: 2011 Bikes
Post by: spydglide on July 25, 2010, 07:08:16 PM
Another new one already Spyder.  :nixweiss:  ;D
Hey......you're the one that was just putting his huckleberry on the sale block.  I'm just trying to keep the two old girls of mine in shoes &
chrome 'bling' these days.  ::) :P har.  :drink: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 25, 2010, 07:36:50 PM
Come one man!  Give it up!  Our feet are tapping waiting for it.


Still waiting  :worthless:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 25, 2010, 07:39:12 PM
For those of you attending the dealer meeting please review the site on how to post pictures... We will be liiving through you

 :drink:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Majorrocky on July 25, 2010, 09:29:04 PM
Found these on another forum... not sure if they're legit but they sure look it...  See the attached PDF --- 1 of 3
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Majorrocky on July 25, 2010, 09:29:27 PM
2 of 3
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Majorrocky on July 25, 2010, 09:30:36 PM
3 of 3
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 25, 2010, 10:41:38 PM
Again from the WSJ: "In contrast, the kinder, gentler approach to production capacity went over much better. Harley-Davidson  shares jumped more than 13% Tuesday after the motorcycle maker announced rosy quarterly results and noted its plans to cut shipments by 5% to 10% in 2010."

Obviously they're not cutting the flagship CVO Ultra according to the CARB reports filed.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 25, 2010, 10:43:41 PM
Found these on another forum... not sure if they're legit but they sure look it...  See the attached PDF --- 1 of 3


This is our annual source of upfront information that you have posted.  We're past this already and trying to find out colors and get some actual photos of the different models at this point.  Good effort though.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Majorrocky on July 25, 2010, 11:04:17 PM
This is our annual source of upfront information that you have posted.  We're past this already and trying to find out colors and get some actual photos of the different models at this point.  Good effort though.

Well... the request was made to keep all of the 2011 "stuff" together...  we're now at 31 pages to the thread so it gets to be a little bit of a pain to read through to filter for legitimate information... If I'm redundant with this then you have my most gracious apologies as I did not see it and thought some might be interested...  :wry:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 25, 2010, 11:56:33 PM
Well... the request was made to keep all of the 2011 "stuff" together...  we're now at 31 pages to the thread so it gets to be a little bit of a pain to read through to filter for legitimate information... If I'm redundant with this then you have my most gracious apologies as I did not see it and thought some might be interested...  :wry:

I fully realized that there's a lot of info in all these pages to read through and I just thought that I would bring you up to speed.  No apology necessary.  I hope it didn't sound like I was being critical.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 26, 2010, 09:30:25 AM
Green Meanie

...with a t-shirt
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: naitram on July 26, 2010, 09:33:30 AM
(http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/images/grinch_loves_xmas.gif)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: napalm on July 26, 2010, 09:52:38 AM
One more day left...anyone hyperventilating yet!!!!!
napalm
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: FR8TRN on July 26, 2010, 10:14:50 AM
One more day left...anyone hyperventilating yet!!!!!
napalm

Thought they were due to release today???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 26, 2010, 10:24:26 AM
Thought they were due to release today???
Dealer meeting doesn't start until tomorrow... They (Dealers) will see them first then they will be released to public.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: FR8TRN on July 26, 2010, 10:42:58 AM
Dealer meeting doesn't start until tomorrow... They (Dealers) will see them first then they will be released to public.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Well I'll quit updating the HD website then.  :oops:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: The Bolvine Gigolo! on July 26, 2010, 10:56:24 AM
Our local dealer has a two tone Root Beer Ultra coming in around the 1st of Aug, by the color chart it reminded me of the durcell. :nixweiss: but will have to wait to see.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 26, 2010, 10:58:20 AM
Found these on another forum... not sure if they're legit but they sure look it...  See the attached PDF --- 1 of 3


Thanks for the update... If this is legit, we'll just have to wait a little longer for the anticipated CVO Heritage Softail.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mcdonaldroadcapt on July 26, 2010, 11:53:22 AM
I think that Willie G could design a smoking trike if not now in the very near future. I saw PICS of one of his non-production creations not too long ago and it was hot.  Can't keep trikes in the show rooms so must be a growing market out there. I heard that HD was going to double production. I own a 2008 CVO 105th motortrike conversion and it sure turns heads and causes me long fill ups at service stations talking to admirers.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DavidB on July 26, 2010, 01:23:25 PM
The local dealer got a truck of bikes in today.
Id like to see what they are.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 26, 2010, 01:44:02 PM
So what was the color combo of the RG Ultra? Could you tell?

As best I could tell from the poor picture, it was a cream and maybe a medium brown... putrid!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 26, 2010, 03:17:47 PM
As best I could tell from the poor picture, it was a cream and maybe a medium brown... putrid!

That's good to know. Someone mentioned earlier (after your post) seeing that combo in a photo and the dealer said it was the worst of the three. One more day and we should know about the rest!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: JETCVO on July 26, 2010, 03:22:14 PM
Is it to early to start discussing what the 2011 Screamin eagles will be????  colors???   Models ???  changes???
What I would love to see is an articulating sidecar design.
This would allow the bike to lean in either direction and have a very narrow wheel base.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 26, 2010, 03:56:57 PM
That's good to know. Someone mentioned earlier (after your post) seeing that combo in a photo and the dealer said it was the worst of the three. One more day and we should know about the rest!

Rob,

The dealer said that he will call me tomorrow from the show to give me the low down on the colors and any other exciting changes, as I am sure there are plenty others here that will be getting similar calls.
Something like the Triple Red or a good black combo.... and I might just be riding a new SEURG.
I will also consider the SEUC if nothing excites me with the SEURG, but I've never had a RG and am thinking it could just be time to try one  ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bubba on July 26, 2010, 06:59:15 PM
is this what you are looking for?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 26, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
is this what you are looking for?

Oh god, if that's a real paint scheme and it actually looks like that it'll be the first CVO bike ever nicknamed the tan turd.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bubba on July 26, 2010, 07:08:36 PM
Oh god, if that's a real paint scheme and it actually looks like that it'll be the first CVO bike ever nicknamed the tan turd.

Well they did say that it WAS the !@#$% color
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 26, 2010, 07:39:54 PM
is this what you are looking for?

Oh Brother .....that has got to look better in person :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: greglyon on July 26, 2010, 07:39:58 PM
aside from the paint there are some thoughtful appointments.
passenger floorboards vs pegs, reflector off the saddlebag and on the saddlebag crash guard
highway pegs.  looking forward to the rest of the equipment when unveiled tomorrow.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 26, 2010, 08:04:02 PM
Oh god, if that's a real paint scheme and it actually looks like that it'll be the first CVO bike ever nicknamed the tan turd.
Can we just refer to it as TT instead?  :-\  har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on July 26, 2010, 08:18:48 PM
Oh god, if that's a real paint scheme and it actually looks like that it'll be the first CVO bike ever nicknamed the tan turd.

Ahh...the polished turd has met it's match.  Tomorrow, they unveil the chromed turd! :huepfenjump3:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Sea Biscuit on July 26, 2010, 08:57:17 PM
is this what you are looking for?

Say it ain't so Joe, say it ain't so!!! :o

Come on...Harley can't produce something "that ugly"...can they? ???

I guess we will know tomorrow!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 26, 2010, 08:58:03 PM
is this what you are looking for?
Tomorrow will be really interesting... Will there be 3 CVO's (SEURG, SEUC, & SESG) in the touring family this year?? :nixweiss:

Oh god, if that's a real paint scheme and it actually looks like that it'll be the first CVO bike ever nicknamed the tan turd.
"Tan Turd"... you ain't right!!! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 26, 2010, 09:08:48 PM
Anxiously awaiting tomorrow!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on July 26, 2010, 09:33:12 PM
Thanks for posting the pic bubba, was going to call you to get you
to post it. Can't post pics from my computer.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ultrafxr on July 26, 2010, 09:33:25 PM
Oh god, if that's a real paint scheme and it actually looks like that it'll be the first CVO bike ever nicknamed the tan turd.
Can't quite tell if that color is turkey turd tan or maybe it is pizz burnt brown.  Either way I'm not into earth tones.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on July 26, 2010, 09:36:45 PM
I am guessing we will see a triple red one and either a blue or a
black and orange.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: martys on July 26, 2010, 09:39:25 PM
is this what you are looking for?
Larry will love all those reflectors  :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 26, 2010, 09:57:30 PM
is this what you are looking for?

That may not be so bad looking in person, especially if that lighter color is a pearl with heavy flake.  It does look like a SEUC that someone screwed up and put the wrong fairing on it.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 26, 2010, 10:01:00 PM
Colors are so subjective. At least this CVO Road Glide is flames free, and the tour pack once again has some art work on it. It almost looks like they are borrowed the template from the 2008 CVO Ultra. Notice any similarities?

The only similarity I see is the stripe on the side of the tourpak.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 26, 2010, 10:05:54 PM
Tomorrow will be really interesting... Will there be 3 CVO's (SEURG, SEUC, & SESG) in the touring family this year?? :nixweiss:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

The EPA reports also listed a dyna convertable.  Maybe something else, can't remember.  You know they'll do a non-touring cvo. ;)  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 26, 2010, 11:09:23 PM
Tomorrow can't come fast enough, I feel like a kid the night before Christmas :nervous:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Texas 103 on July 26, 2010, 11:25:21 PM
Got the scoop on this new bike in a dream I had last night that must be true because the information came in three scenes from pool boy past, pool boy present and pool boy extra toasty (he'd just had a minor malfunction with something called a Spirit Free-Floating Universal Catastrophe Kill System [Spirit F-f$%* System). 

Anyway; Spirit past was trying to maximize profits at the expense of Spirit present's long term health.  So they were squabbling a bit and it was hard to get a lot of good information.  Spirit Extra Toasty floated in from 2022 and was al giddy and happy about some new status just conferred as a "boutique bike" maker eschewed by the masses and adored by 82 remaining old farts with walkers.  Seemed they'd just released a new chromed SE Walker Deployment Cradle for $2247.99; add $3184.50 with power assist.

Ok, come to think of it the Spirits didn't have a lot to say about this bike.  Never mind.

I had  dream that I sent you that Fat Cat and you used it for a bong...thus the [Spirit F-f$%* System) was created
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 26, 2010, 11:58:13 PM
I had  dream that I sent you that Fat Cat and you used it for a bong...thus the [Spirit F-f$%* System) was created


Now I'm jonesing for a Cheech and Chong marathon......  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 12:16:10 AM
Tomorrow will be really interesting... Will there be 3 CVO's (SEURG, SEUC, & SESG) in the touring family this year?? :nixweiss:
"Tan Turd"... you ain't right!!! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:


 :confused5:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 12:22:04 AM
Tomorrow will be really interesting... Will there be 3 CVO's (SEURG, SEUC, & SESG) in the touring family this year?? :nixweiss:
"Tan Turd"... you ain't right!!! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Wonder what time (central time) we will see the 2011's.  sure hope someone has a good camera and posts photos RIGHT HERE

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 12:27:59 AM


If there are some good colors on the SEUC or SESG old blue and I might part ways
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 27, 2010, 01:20:54 AM
looks like the retro color of an old Honda Goldwing
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 49445CVO on July 27, 2010, 01:34:14 AM
Ok it is after 12 a.m. and nothing on the H-D website! Dang!  This is too funny Last year we had a photo of the SESG about a month or so before the release and this year the photo leak was a few days prior. As for the above photo I think Root beer Float looks about right.  I am also not a fan of that green INTERSTATE BATTERY  SESG .  Well In a few hours we will know for sure.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on July 27, 2010, 03:06:45 AM
it's going to be a hot summer day in Las Vegas. In another 9 hours the meeting will start  ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on July 27, 2010, 07:34:46 AM
still nothing?! :(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 27, 2010, 07:52:11 AM
still nothing?! :(

there is still a few hours to wait for the LA time zone to wake up
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 08:08:59 AM
I think a lot of you guys are going to be surprised how good that color scheme looks in person in the sunlight.  :P

Also, YES YES YES! Thats what I was waiting on in 09 but didn't get. Glad I have my name on one. can't wait to see the other colors. I too should get some mobile pics from someone at the show. If so, I will get them on right away.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 27, 2010, 08:17:50 AM
May not clash badly with my Bushtec...just sayin'

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=160811;image)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Beemer on July 27, 2010, 08:30:23 AM
I think the above photo is BS...2010 SESG wheels...aftermarket exhaust tips...and especially the ugly-a$$, outdated tail light when the 09SERG/10SESG have had the smooth LED treatment...and add the 2010 SEUC tourpak being all LED'd-out and all...it just doesn't make sense...jussayin
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 09:25:42 AM
Is that a GPS mount on the left handlebar? The black piece? Maybe like the one on the 2010 1/2?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 27, 2010, 09:39:32 AM
Beauty 1935/1978 Cream n brown.. :coolblue:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 09:43:09 AM
Updates will be posted here throughout the day:

http://harleydavidsonbikercommunity.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=3798563%3ATopic%3A30772&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 09:46:12 AM
Updates will be posted here throughout the day:

http://harleydavidsonbikercommunity.ning.com/forum/topic/show?id=3798563%3ATopic%3A30772&xgs=1&xg_source=msg_share_topic
Thanks for real help!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LC110 on July 27, 2010, 09:47:09 AM
Vintage 1989
(http://images.craigslist.org/3n43m63l85V15Q05Z1a7q68ecad677a951b11.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 27, 2010, 09:50:08 AM
Boy ol' boy, this site is doing an amazing job at pumping up the hype on a new model release.  I don't ever remember so many being so excited.

Possibly the MoCo will pass along some sort of sales commission?  :nixweiss:

We're now down to hours, and soon to be minutes.

I'm just waiting for the Pointer Sisters to jump in...

"I'm so excited, I just can't stand it, I'm about to loose control and I want you!"

Either that or a revamped Heinz commercial with Carly Simon singing "Anticipation".



Referring to the pic of the tan CVO RG, it's been at least 10 years since they produced a bike that (to some) looks too much like a Gold Wing. Just saying.
Looking forward to seeing the other colours.
Title: 2011 announcement
Post by: sugarbear20 on July 27, 2010, 10:30:45 AM
Is today the day they announce the new bikes?
Title: Re: 2011 announcement
Post by: sooiee on July 27, 2010, 10:37:25 AM
Yes indeed
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: naitram on July 27, 2010, 10:38:55 AM
as soon as the big wigs wake up in vegas
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 10:39:45 AM
is this what you are looking for?

Yep, that's the pic I saw
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 10:50:28 AM
When does the show start???  9 vegas time???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 27, 2010, 10:57:09 AM
vegas never sleeps.  :) spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 27, 2010, 11:01:08 AM
1 hour to go
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 11:06:06 AM
1 hour to go
That's if they start at 8, on time, and do the unveiling first. I'm thinking Willie G is going to speak, build up the hype then pull the curtain and let the world know. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 11:09:58 AM
That's if they start at 8, on time, and do the unveiling first. I'm thinking Willie G is going to speak, build up the hype then pull the curtain and let the world know. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Dood  thanks for keeping this in one thread this year... good work
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: KaseyKahnefan on July 27, 2010, 11:19:51 AM
That's if they start at 8, on time, and do the unveiling first. I'm thinking Willie G is going to speak, build up the hype then pull the curtain and let the world know. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
:juggle2: :divers009: :computer: :computer: :morningcoffee: :smilie_staub: :sleeping:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on July 27, 2010, 11:25:58 AM
Meeting started @ 8, show starts @ 10:30 Vegas time.  1 hr and counting! :bananarock:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 11:29:44 AM
Meeting started @ 8, show starts @ 10:30 Vegas time.  1 hr and counting! :bananarock:

Vegas is Pacific not Mountain.  So 10:30 there is still two hours away.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 11:34:07 AM
What the heck!!! Don't they realize we are waiting... I'm going to contact the pool boy.... they need to have these meetings on the east coast and start them earlier. :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 11:35:46 AM
HD is working on their website.  There is not a link for the CVO bikes right now.  Maybe they will finish updating their site about the time the show opens?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 11:36:09 AM
What the heck!!! Don't they realize we are waiting... I'm going to contact the pool boy.... they need to have these meetings on the east coast and start them earlier. :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Doing it in Vegas in late July if they had any sense they'd do it at midnight.  Dumb place for a convention in the high summer.  They let a little flood scare them....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 11:38:22 AM
Doing it in Vegas in late July if they had any sense they'd do it at midnight.  Dumb place for a convention in the high summer.  They let a little flood scare them....
I hope it is hot there... we suffering.. they should too!!! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 11:39:49 AM
I hope it is hot there... we suffering.. they should too!!! :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:


They should've just done it at my house.  I'd have pics for y'all yesterday if they had.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 11:43:17 AM

They should've just done it at my house.  I'd have pics for y'all yesterday if they had.
I'd be afraid of the pictures you'd post.... probably of Willie G in a thong or something. :shocked2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 11:45:51 AM
I'd be afraid of the pictures you'd post.... probably of Willie G in a thong or something. :shocked2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:


Nah, the site already has the thong market locked up with a user who guards his position there jealously.  So I'd not touch that.  Willie G. looks a lot like an angry poodle though.  Pics of him in the morning after a good bender might just be frightening.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Tbone on July 27, 2010, 11:47:37 AM
The link that Rob posted has two comments:

CVO Ultra Classic

The show has just begun
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 27, 2010, 11:54:01 AM
Man i never thought i would be waiting by the phone to spend 35 grand on a bike that i have not even saw a picture of :nervous: I thought i had it bad with buying Ducati's! I have a Harley Addiction :nervous:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 11:57:20 AM
Street Glide and Ultra so far.............. said SG is BAD ASS!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 27, 2010, 11:57:25 AM
Man i never thought i would be waiting by the phone to spend 35 grand on a bike that i have not even saw a picture of :nervous: I thought i had it bad with buying Ducati's! I have a Harley Addiction :nervous:
We're here for ya.  ;) har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: amigo Jorge on July 27, 2010, 12:05:34 PM
This situation is no apt for persons with cardiac problems like me  >:(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: glenn bob on July 27, 2010, 12:07:40 PM
I do not think you will need to wait by the phone this year.  as long as you are willing to use more than one dealer.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 12:11:46 PM
Looks like the HD web site is down...should not be long now
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 12:12:28 PM
CVO Softail convertable............
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: T MAC on July 27, 2010, 12:12:51 PM
I knew the best place to be on 2011 New Line Up Day!!   My plan is to wait until 2013 to buy a new bike but just being on here with you guys has me EXCITED!!  -- Hide the checkbook! :huepfenjump3:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 27, 2010, 12:13:19 PM
2 wheels...mostly
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 27, 2010, 12:14:59 PM
Thanks Spyder. I will need a :drink: after this!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: cropsure on July 27, 2010, 12:17:00 PM
The new parts are up on the site...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 12:18:23 PM
Bikes are on the HD site!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Carlos Silva on July 27, 2010, 12:20:02 PM
Hey guys, I'm here in Milwaukee and leaving for the Museum in 1 minute, does anyone want me to call them if they have something there that they unveil?...I have a 'regular' cell phone, so I can't log in or send pics - but info is info.

let me know,

Carlos

or call me in 30 minutes 301-467-3987
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 9 1/2 Beers on July 27, 2010, 12:23:23 PM
360 view is new for the cvo's on the hd website

 Gauges are Hot (imo)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: amigo Jorge on July 27, 2010, 12:26:22 PM
too slow.................. >:(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sooiee on July 27, 2010, 12:29:54 PM
too slow.................. >:(

Do ya think there might be just a "little" bit of traffic hitting that site right now?  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: erniezap on July 27, 2010, 12:31:00 PM
WTF?  Still nothing!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 27, 2010, 12:33:26 PM
B & O SG is nice.... :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 12:34:57 PM
Only one color of ultra?????   and flames again...... >:( >:(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 27, 2010, 12:35:40 PM
You can save a lot of $$ with the Ultra Roadglide...and it has a 103 to boot.  Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RoadGliderX70 on July 27, 2010, 12:36:05 PM
B & O SG is nice.... :2vrolijk_21:
Agree there... RG Ultra on the other hand.... meh!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 9 1/2 Beers on July 27, 2010, 12:41:30 PM
 :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: Hinges  :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 27, 2010, 12:43:51 PM
Now I feel better about my deposit on the 2011 Street glide. Black diamond and crimson :pepper: Now My 2008 Street glide is for sale. Sorry you been good to me but got to make room for the new baby. The wife said this is my last bike for awhile, I said yes with my fingers crossed :D Its like her saying no more shoes!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 12:46:53 PM
Wow that green looks a lot better than when we first saw it
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 27, 2010, 12:53:44 PM
Red CVO RG Ultra ...  hmmmm
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 9 1/2 Beers on July 27, 2010, 12:55:11 PM
On the road glide ultra (non cvo) the seat looks comfortable, i wonder if it's heated ?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Beemer on July 27, 2010, 12:55:28 PM
I think the above photo is BS...2010 SESG wheels...aftermarket exhaust tips...and especially the ugly-a$$, outdated tail light when the 09SERG/10SESG have had the smooth LED treatment...and add the 2010 SEUC tourpak being all LED'd-out and all...it just doesn't make sense...jussayin

Chomp...chomp...chomp...gulp!  Eating my words!!!!! :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Majorrocky on July 27, 2010, 12:57:18 PM
Wow that green looks a lot better than when we first saw it

Yep... let the backtrackin' begin...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 12:58:32 PM
Ok, I am in LUST with the Red & Black Roadglide Ultra!... This could be trouble!

Sure wish they would have put the SG bags and rear fender on the RGU.  I'm seeing a handlebar mounted GPS in the pics, but no mention of it in the specs?

What's up with only one color for the SEUC?  Flames again???

The SG is sweeeeeet!  Even the green looks good, but the Orange/Black is Awesome!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 27, 2010, 12:59:35 PM
On the road glide ultra (non cvo) the seat looks comfortable, i wonder if it's heated ?

Heated
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 27, 2010, 01:00:02 PM
Ok, I am in LUST with the Red & Black Roadglide Ultra!... This could be trouble!

Sure wish they would have put the SG bags and rear fender on the RGU.  I'm seeing a handlebar mounted GPS in the pics, but no mention of it in the specs?

What's up with only one color for the SEUC?  Flames again???

The SG is sweeeeeet!  Even the green looks good, but the Orange/Black is Awesome!

660 looks included!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sooiee on July 27, 2010, 01:02:53 PM
660 looks included!
Yes..under "features" click "next" several times
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 27, 2010, 01:04:55 PM
Only red?  
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 27, 2010, 01:07:11 PM
Only red?  

For me...in order of pref for the CVO RG:

Red
Ivory
Charcoal
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 27, 2010, 01:10:11 PM
At least the RG Tpak has some strip on it..I like red, charcoal, throwback 89
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 01:11:36 PM
Yep... let the backtrackin' begin...


Mmmmmm Hmmmmmm.............  :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: donald p on July 27, 2010, 01:14:11 PM
CVO Street Glide is by far the best
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 01:15:09 PM
660 looks included!

Well, they finally wised up and ditched the HK Navigation.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sugarbear20 on July 27, 2010, 01:18:00 PM
Did you notice they added lowers on the street glide?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Dean_Nelson on July 27, 2010, 01:19:11 PM
Also, something about a 120R crate motor.......

But I find nothing on H-D web site about it..........

Dean Nelson
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 27, 2010, 01:21:33 PM
OK, my 2010 Blue SESG will be sold or traded in...

Mostly Stock, less than 3000 miles ...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: ice6900 on July 27, 2010, 01:22:51 PM
I wish i had some money left
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 01:23:36 PM
think there will only be one color  ultra?????
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 01:23:50 PM
I think Charcoal for me.  :jalapeno:  :drink:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 01:24:25 PM
For Sale:  2008 SEUC  Copper Canyon/Silver.  Less than 16,000 miles.  Lots of Extras.   ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 01:25:38 PM
think there will only be one color  ultra?????

Maybe another mid-year bike in a different color???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 01:26:06 PM
Have been looking over the HD website at all the new toys.  And on the phone talking to friends about the new toys.  The red Road Glide is sweet.  Like the new gauges a lot too (if the pics are accurate).  The iPod controller in the Ultra and RG is a good idea too.  And I really like the new Street Glide.  Surprisingly the green attracted me and the black/orange. 

The SG's tank treatment is to my tastes very cool.  Really like that line and look as it sweeps from front to rear.  That bike with its lowers, tank and rest of the package really jumps.  It's the biggest difference from one year to the next in a CVO model we've seen.  Really will make many of the 2010 SESG owners wish they waited a year.  Lots to like about that bike.

What I was more surprised by, however, was the P&A additions.  First time in a few years they added some interesting things there and did so over a pretty wide stretch of the model range.  Both in the more involved and more expensive end and down to small quickly installed pieces too.  Many things to consider there.  They'd dropped the ball here the last few years.  It's good to see them paying attention to this again.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Tweet on July 27, 2010, 01:26:26 PM
I wonder if they forgot to mention XM on the CVO Ultra?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sooiee on July 27, 2010, 01:26:52 PM
hard to believe no photos yet...
 :worthless:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: billyo2222 on July 27, 2010, 01:27:17 PM
i really love the inferno orange!! loved it on the softail convertable but didn't figure they would roll it over to the sesg! i only wish they would have put the orange on top and the black on bottom like the kryptonite! still think i like the 10 better imo. i'm not a big lowers guy and i really love the gold leaf on my captain.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 01:30:05 PM
hard to believe no photos yet...
 :worthless:

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/cvo.html
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: WFP on July 27, 2010, 01:31:13 PM
Power lock for the bags and the fork...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 27, 2010, 01:33:55 PM
Too bad they came back with flames for the Ultra... Possibly with only one colour, they're fading them out?  :nixweiss:

Road Glide in charcoal looks amazing!

But I think the Street Glide is THE bike this year.  :2vrolijk_21:
especially the Black Diamond with the Crimson Tag graphics

Looks like only the SG comes with the added speakers in the lowers.

Nice that they come with lowers, but they forgot to add the detachable chopped tour pac!  :o
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: FR8TRN on July 27, 2010, 01:34:30 PM
Don't forget to check out the new parts/accessories on the website also.....Ipod Interface....LED Headlights and others....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on July 27, 2010, 01:41:54 PM
Ok, I am in LUST with the Red & Black Roadglide Ultra!... This could be trouble!

Sure wish they would have put the SG bags and rear fender on the RGU.  I'm seeing a handlebar mounted GPS in the pics, but no mention of it in the specs?

What's up with only one color for the SEUC?  Flames again???

The SG is sweeeeeet!  Even the green looks good, but the Orange/Black is Awesome!


I agree, the RG could have used the extended bags and fender,  but that green SG looks awesome
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 01:43:33 PM


I agree, the RG could have used the extended bags and fender,  but that green SG looks awesome

Agree the green is a real surprise..very nice
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: billkse on July 27, 2010, 01:44:57 PM
Glade I got the mid year hard to belive that there is just one color.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on July 27, 2010, 01:47:40 PM
So far the line looks like a hit (at least the Street glides are)

misses

Ultra only one color?

Road glide without extended bags and rear fender?


Hits

Love the Street Glide color scheme

RED   :2vrolijk_21:

Green   :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

Black   :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

Orange   :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:

I have found in the past that the bikes all look better in person..............

time to have the trailer repainted with Krytonite  :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: KaseyKahnefan on July 27, 2010, 01:49:05 PM
Really like the SESG in the Autumn Haze / Antique Gunstock. 19" from chrome wheel will look sweet.
Looking at the seat there is a major difference from 2010...wonder if the 11 seat will fit the 10 bike?
 Really like the lowers, Does anyone think Harley will offer the lowers painted in 2010 colors?
The 2011 Street Glide will be the bike of choice IMHO, get your orders in early :P. Great colors for all tastes and so really nice upgrades for 2011. I got a great discount on my 2010 or I'd be wishing I waited....OK, OK, I'm wishing anyway but with the $1,500 more and the discount for the 2010 I got it makes it a little easier! :hopefully:
Harley did a great job with the 2011 CVO line. My feeling on the limited (one) color on the Ultra is they will have a couple limited runs later in the year.
Who will be the first here to take delivery on a 2011 CVO? :drink:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: laylonlor on July 27, 2010, 01:50:57 PM
same old junk dude
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: retired_colonel on July 27, 2010, 01:51:28 PM
Although I personally ride a touring CVO, I am surprised that three of the four offerings are all '..glides'.  I would have thought a representation across most families would have been more interesting and marketable...this year you really have to like floorboards!  Having said that, I really like the StreetGlide in the Kryptonite/BlackDiamond with the blacked out motor...quite striking and I think it will be the most popular of all the 11's.  It is the only one that raises my pulse at all.  Ultra in one color combo?...hmmmm.  
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on July 27, 2010, 02:05:40 PM
same old junk dude


Why are you pissing in my Wheaties today?

Tomorrow is another day that you can continue

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Road_Glider on July 27, 2010, 02:05:51 PM
This is the hot looking bike of the year IMHO

(http://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/7/W/D/0/-/2011-Harley-CVO-Street-Glide-FLHXSE2-orange-TR.jpg)
(http://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/7/V/D/0/-/2011-Harley-CVO-Street-Glide-FLHXSE2-orange-BJN.jpg)
(http://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/7/U/D/0/-/2011-Harley-CVO-Street-Glide-FLHXSE2-orange-BJN-rear.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 02:07:21 PM
This is the hot looking bike of the year IMHO

(http://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/7/W/D/0/-/2011-Harley-CVO-Street-Glide-FLHXSE2-orange-TR.jpg)
(http://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/7/V/D/0/-/2011-Harley-CVO-Street-Glide-FLHXSE2-orange-BJN.jpg)
(http://0.tqn.com/d/motorcycles/1/7/U/D/0/-/2011-Harley-CVO-Street-Glide-FLHXSE2-orange-BJN-rear.jpg)
Jeff (Black Diamond) you see these pictures. :devil: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 02:10:00 PM

This is the hot looking bike of the year IMHO



Agreed.  It and the green SESG are my favorites too.  This orange and black Doodster is my top of the line.  Love that tank treatment and the way the line carries from the top of the fairing, over the tank and on down the bike.  Really striking bike.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mwg on July 27, 2010, 02:19:52 PM
The 19" wheel on the SESG is nice.. but not too much rubber between the wheel and road. I wonder if it rides differently.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: GregKhougaz on July 27, 2010, 02:23:44 PM
This is the hot looking bike of the year IMHO

Agreed.  Love the tank treatment, lowers and 19" Front wheel.  Very cool!   :coolblue:   :coolblue:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 27, 2010, 02:24:06 PM
Thanks for the pics, The orange and black really looks good.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 02:25:59 PM
I'm calling -

A RoadGlide with a Tour Pack for 2011 model. Only 3 weeks to tell if I'm right.

Huh, wonder who called it................ :huepfenlol2:  :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on July 27, 2010, 02:31:39 PM


time to have the trailer repainted with Krytonite  :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:



Repainting the trailer.... the current paint hasn't cured out yet  :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: T MAC on July 27, 2010, 02:52:09 PM
2011 may be the Standout year for Paint Schemes -- Some Very Nice Colors!!!  I cannot really find none of them I don't like by the website pictures and they ALWAYS look better in person.  I look forward to the reviews from the folks on this site.

Kinda suprised to be saying this but ---   Harley seems to Have Gotten It Right!  --- and with the economy slow like it is NOW is a good time to be getting it Right :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sooiee on July 27, 2010, 03:08:00 PM
Jeff (Black Diamond) you see these pictures. :devil: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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Fired00d
 :fireman:

There we go...that's what I'm talking about...Tempting isn't it?   :orange:   :2vrolijk_21:  :carrot:
If it's orange...it's good dood.  Or is that dood good?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on July 27, 2010, 03:11:46 PM
Looks like they moved the rt grip audio controls off the grip and to the dash of the RU!!??  I wonder what the thinking was behind that????  Now you may have to take you hand off the throttle to tune the radio/change tracks/etc.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 03:13:07 PM
There we go...that's what I'm talking about...Tempting isn't it?   :orange:   :2vrolijk_21:  :carrot:
If it's orange...it's good dood.  Or is that dood good?
Awful tempting!!!

Can somebody please look in their crystal ball and give me the winning numbers to this week Mega Millions/Power Ball or any other Lottery. :D :D

If it's orange it's "the bomb" as the youngsters say. ;D ;D How more "traditional" can you get... There is a reason the Bar/Shield colors are done in Orange/Black. :2vrolijk_21:

 :pumpkin:
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Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 03:27:35 PM
Looks like they moved the rt grip audio controls off the grip and to the dash of the RU!!??  I wonder what the thinking was behind that????  Now you may have to take you hand off the throttle to tune the radio/change tracks/etc.

Can't tell for sure from this blow up but there's something there John.  Saw another pic that showed cruise switch on the left side.  Might be that all audio is now on the right grip and cruise on the left.  That's the kind of change that would confuse my thumbs for awhile.

They did cut some corners on this bike though.  No filler strips off the saddlebags, not even the little chrome covers to hide the ugly bolts on the rear saddlebag brackets.  Black handlebar hardware on at least some of the models too.  A few other things that seem less than expected.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: T MAC on July 27, 2010, 03:32:08 PM

Hot off the press:



http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/113/7534/Motorcycle-Article/2011-Harley-Davidson-CVO-First-Rides.aspx
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 27, 2010, 03:36:08 PM
Has anyone noticed the SESG's come standard with 6 speakers?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: T MAC on July 27, 2010, 03:45:35 PM
Hot off the press:



http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/113/7534/Motorcycle-Article/2011-Harley-Davidson-CVO-First-Rides.aspx

If you click on each picture it will bring up a series of pictures of that bike with different colors and angles.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on July 27, 2010, 03:47:23 PM

Repainting the trailer.... the current paint hasn't cured out yet  :huepfenlol2:


That is closer to the truth than you know......I am getting it back this week later

Painter has described it to me as fantastic,  but he has a vested interest...........
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on July 27, 2010, 03:54:37 PM
Has anyone noticed the SESG's come standard with 6 speakers?

Looks like the finally got rid of the air temp gauge. Now the dash has 2 tweeters and the fuel gauge is on the tank.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 04:18:07 PM
I've learned oaver several years to NOT look at the pictures of Harley Colors and make a judgment. Most look better in person outside in the sunlight.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 04:19:35 PM
Looks like the finally got rid of the air temp gauge.
Quote
Mine just confirms it's really hot.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: J-Carr on July 27, 2010, 04:26:41 PM
Maybe I'm just a killjoy, but my comment would be "Yawn..."

The TourGlide Ultra Road Glide is a neat idea, but not really anything original or anything that many people haven't done with the P&A book.  I'll pass as I continue to see nothing to make these bikes significantly better then my '08.

Ride Safe,
JC
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LoneCustom on July 27, 2010, 04:28:45 PM
Glade I got the mid year hard to believe that there is just one color.

Not only one color, but EXACTLY the same flame graphics as 2010.  Now, I do like these graphics (I've got the Riptide Blue/Titanium Dust combo), but does this mean that H-D wasn't willing to invest some $$$ to come up with a completely new paint design OR does it mean that the 2011 scheme wasn't quite ready and that a new design/other colors are yet to come?

I'm not impressed that they picked three Touring models and brought back the Softail Convertible (which I wasn't all that thrilled about last year).
I think a CVO Cross Bones would have been awesome.  Of course, the Touring models ARE the most expensive... ::)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on July 27, 2010, 04:30:32 PM
Looks like the finally got rid of the air temp gauge.
Quote
Mine just confirms it's really hot.


I never needed the air gauge to let me know that I'm freezing or sweating my nuts off!!! Maybe the factory finally figured that out after all of these years!!  Or maybe they got rid of another more useful gauge and kept the air gauge....who knows...we will have to wait to see it in person.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Mr D on July 27, 2010, 04:31:52 PM
CVO Street Glide is by far the best

Ding!  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 04:34:42 PM
The green and orange look interesting!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 04:36:22 PM
Hot off the press:
http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/113/7534/Motorcycle-Article/2011-Harley-Davidson-CVO-First-Rides.aspx
Thank you for the great link!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 27, 2010, 04:38:48 PM
Red CVO RG Ultra ...  hmmmm

 :2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:..best one of the RG's   Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 04:39:42 PM
:2vrolijk_21: :2vrolijk_21:..best one of the RG's   Doc
+1
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 110tHunDer on July 27, 2010, 04:45:07 PM
Hot off the press:



http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/113/7534/Motorcycle-Article/2011-Harley-Davidson-CVO-First-Rides.aspx

Dude on the SESG has ridden one too many crotch rockets .... he's got his feet on the passenger pegs! ::) :P ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on July 27, 2010, 04:47:12 PM
Dude on the SESG has ridden one too many crotch rockets .... he's got his feet on the passenger pegs! ::) :P ;D


Don't knock it 'til you try it!  I do it regularly, and I don't have a crotch rocket background.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on July 27, 2010, 04:55:04 PM
I'll pass as I continue to see nothing to make these bikes significantly better then my '08.

Ride Safe,
JC


Hi JC......

can you say
Frame
frame
frame
and frame

I heard it was a nice improvement,   my problem is I cannot afford to change it right now

of course that is not new this year, you just missed it by one year........

JC you cannot tell me that Kryptonite does not look sweet....

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 27, 2010, 04:57:30 PM
Dude on the SESG has ridden one too many crotch rockets .... he's got his feet on the passenger pegs! ::) :P ;D

I'd do that also if I still had 'young knees'.  :-X har. spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 05:03:35 PM
Maybe I'm just a killjoy, but my comment would be "Yawn..."

The TourGlide Ultra Road Glide is a neat idea, but not really anything original or anything that many people haven't done with the P&A book.  I'll pass as I continue to see nothing to make these bikes significantly better then my '08.

Ride Safe,
JC

If you go with that thinking, nothing's been done with the Ultra that couldn't/hasn't been done with the P&A book. I think Moco is on the right track this year.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 05:18:18 PM
(http://www.motorcycle-usa.com/PhotoGallerys/road_glide_cvo10.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on July 27, 2010, 05:44:38 PM
Can't tell for sure from this blow up but there's something there John.  Saw another pic that showed cruise switch on the left side.  Might be that all audio is now on the right grip and cruise on the left.  That's the kind of change that would confuse my thumbs for awhile.

They did cut some corners on this bike though.  No filler strips off the saddlebags, not even the little chrome covers to hide the ugly bolts on the rear saddlebag brackets.  Black handlebar hardware on at least some of the models too.  A few other things that seem less than expected.


Scroll thru the HD CVO site, there is a VERY clear picture of the right hand grip without the audio controls.  Strange, to say the least.  One of the other pictures in that same sequence is talking about the ipod integration and it clearly shows a new switch cluster on the dash- a center "dot" with a + and a - button on each side.  Go to the technology section and scroll through the pictures, the ipod picture as mentioned and the cruise picture will be the no audio picture.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 05:51:11 PM
Dude on the SESG has ridden one too many crotch rockets .... he's got his feet on the passenger pegs! ::) :P ;D

I noticed that too. :D :D
Don't knock it 'til you try it!  I do it regularly, and I don't have a crotch rocket background.
Not going to knock it but my ole arthritic arse ain't going to try it... I may lock up some of chrome titanium parts. :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on July 27, 2010, 05:52:50 PM

Scroll thru the HD CVO site, there is a VERY clear picture of the right hand grip without the audio controls.  Strange, to say the least.  One of the other pictures in that same sequence is talking about the ipod integration and it clearly shows a new switch cluster on the dash- a center "dot" with a + and a - button on each side.  Go to the technology section and scroll through the pictures, the ipod picture as mentioned and the cruise picture will be the no audio picture.

The picture with the IPOD in it is the same pic from the tech section on the softail convertible......I do see what you mean on the right hand grip though :confused5:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 05:52:59 PM
I'd do that also if I still had 'young knees'.  :-X har. spyder
And no artificial parts (like me). :D :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 05:53:58 PM
Can anyone tell me where these would go? Snap onto the frame? Say's in the description that they come stock on the CVO 11 Road Glide.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448775791&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302287489&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302287489&bmUID=1280267530132&bmLocale=en_US
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on July 27, 2010, 05:56:37 PM
They clip on the crash bar pointing forward blocking the air stream that comes up through the fairing where the forks go down through it.


Why is the SERGU $500 cheaper than the CUSE and 10# heavier??
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 27, 2010, 05:57:56 PM
So do we think there will be a 2011-1/4, or 2011-1/2 UC CVO with
limited supply (999) colors?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 27, 2010, 06:00:28 PM
They clip on the crash bar pointing forward blocking the air stream that comes up through the fairing where the forks go down through it.


Why is the SERGU $500 cheaper than the CUSE and 10# heavier??

I think they want people to lean toward it, and it may be a weight typo!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 06:02:22 PM

Scroll thru the HD CVO site, there is a VERY clear picture of the right hand grip without the audio controls.  Strange, to say the least.  One of the other pictures in that same sequence is talking about the ipod integration and it clearly shows a new switch cluster on the dash- a center "dot" with a + and a - button on each side.  Go to the technology section and scroll through the pictures, the ipod picture as mentioned and the cruise picture will be the no audio picture.

Can you paste a link to it?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 06:03:44 PM
So do we think there will be a 2011-1/4, or 2011-1/2 UC CVO with
limited supply (999) colors?

I would bet yes on that
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 27, 2010, 06:05:52 PM
They show this in the "Key Features" tab of the Road Glide Ultra, but it is clearly not a RG. You have to click the "NEXT" button like 15 times to get to the IPOD picture.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/en_US/Motorcycles/cvo-road-glide-ultra.html#/features
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 2harleys on July 27, 2010, 07:03:58 PM
same old junk dude


Feelings like that make me wonder why you bother to be on this site????
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 07:10:46 PM

Scroll thru the HD CVO site, there is a VERY clear picture of the right hand grip without the audio controls.  Strange, to say the least.  One of the other pictures in that same sequence is talking about the ipod integration and it clearly shows a new switch cluster on the dash- a center "dot" with a + and a - button on each side.  Go to the technology section and scroll through the pictures, the ipod picture as mentioned and the cruise picture will be the no audio picture.

Didn't find it John.  At least not quickly right now.  Did find audio controls pictured on all the CVO bikes in the 2011 motorcycle section while the pics of the radios in the same sections looked normal.  Hard to believe they'd move audio controls off the bars. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bubba on July 27, 2010, 07:20:14 PM
Is this what you are looking for
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Bubba on July 27, 2010, 07:23:34 PM
The right hand grip is the standard set up without the mode select up or down
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 07:24:35 PM
Is this what you are looking for

I discounted that image because the bike shown obviously isn't the Road Glide whose section the image is shown in.  Was only looking at images of touring bikes to judge what controls the touring bikes had.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Johnny on July 27, 2010, 07:26:24 PM
Wow some nice bikes for '11 especially the colors for the SG!

I also noticed that the specs say chain drive??  Was this changed when the frames were changed in '09 or is this new for '11?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 07:31:33 PM
Wow some nice bikes for '11 especially the colors for the SG!

I also noticed that the specs say chain drive??  Was this changed when the frames were changed in '09 or is this new for '11?

That would have been too weird of a type even for Harley.  It's the "primary" drive that's a chain (i.e., the chain inside the primary cover).  The final drive is of course still a belt.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on July 27, 2010, 07:41:07 PM
That's the pictures.  I guess the moco is too freakin cheap to photograph the actual bike for each section.  I guess that would make too much sense!  Certainly those digital pictures are EXPENSIVE!!!!! 8) ::) ::)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Johnny on July 27, 2010, 07:44:20 PM
Don - Oops!  Thanks, I agree that would be a step backwards that is why it originally caught my eye!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: skreminegul07 on July 27, 2010, 07:52:12 PM
What is the 140th anniversary special paint job for on the EGUC?  Are we taking reservations for the 2043 model?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 07:54:53 PM
Don - Oops!  Thanks, I agree that would be a step backwards that is why it originally caught my eye!

No sweat.  I went to look just to see what they'd done.  Catching MoCo goofs is something of a hobby for this crowd.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 27, 2010, 08:00:47 PM
Can anyone tell me where these would go? Snap onto the frame? Say's in the description that they come stock on the CVO 11 Road Glide.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448775791&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302287489&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302287489&bmUID=1280267530132&bmLocale=en_US

Look at "view 2"
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 09:18:56 PM
So do we think there will be a 2011-1/4, or 2011-1/2 UC CVO with
limited supply (999) colors?
Yes. This is my thinking due to the success of the 2010 Special 999 production.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 27, 2010, 09:23:54 PM
Noticed that the wire for the GPS on the SEUC⁶ no longer is coming out of the middle of the dash. I wonder if the navigation sound is wired into the back of the HK stereo now?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 09:26:51 PM
Noticed that the wire for the GPS on the SEUC⁶ no longer is coming out of the middle of the dash. I wonder if the navigation sound is wired into the back of the HK stereo now?
You have a very detail oriented mind! Great find.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 27, 2010, 09:29:36 PM
Noticed that the wire for the GPS on the SEUC⁶ no longer is coming out of the middle of the dash. I wonder if the navigation sound is wired into the back of the HK stereo now?

You have a very detail oriented mind! Great find.

(http://www.harley-davidson.com/media/images/productphotos/PNA/76000024_TT_M_26aad.jpg)

Just answered my own question:

Road Tech™ Navigation Interface Module


Available exclusively for Harley-Davidson® Road Tech™ zumo Navigation Systems. The Navigation Interface Module will provide an integrated link between the fairing-mounted Advanced Audio Radio and a Road Tech™ zumo 660 or 665 GPS Navigator. When linked, the music volume will automatically drop when a GPS spoken command is detected, allowing you to hear the command through the radio speakers or the 7-pin communications-style headset. The module attaches directly to the radio, is concealed within the fairing, and does not require connection to the "AUX" input on the radio faceplate, allowing you to listen to a portable music device through your auxiliary input. Kit includes adaptor cable that permits stereo sound from the zu¯mo's internal MP3 player or XM® Radio.

76000024

IN-STORE PURCHASE ONLY Contact dealer for pricing and availability.


Fits '06-later Touring models equipped with the Advanced Audio system and a Road Tech™ zumo 660 GPS Navigator P/N 92115-09 or Road Tech™ zumo 665 GPS Navigator P/N 76000014. '06-later FLHX, FLTR, FLTRX, and FLHTC models and those not equipped with Wiring Harness P/N 70169-06 require the separate purchase of Connector Kit P/N 69200033. Does not fit with Advanced Audio Hands Free Cell Phone Kit P/N 76408-06.

MSRP US $149.95


This is a very positive improvement!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 27, 2010, 09:35:31 PM
New CVO exclusive saddlebag liners with rubber bottoms and side pockets.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 110tHunDer on July 27, 2010, 09:38:42 PM
...


This is a very positive improvement!

Just shows ya how lazy they got with the '10.5 SEUC, is all!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 27, 2010, 09:45:45 PM
New CVO exclusive saddlebag liners with rubber bottoms and side pockets.
Keep em coming!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: charles05663 on July 27, 2010, 09:47:01 PM
Can anyone tell me where these would go? Snap onto the frame? Say's in the description that they come stock on the CVO 11 Road Glide.

http://www.harley-davidson.com/gma/gma_product.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524448775791&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=2534374302287489&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East_id=2534374302287489&bmUID=1280267530132&bmLocale=en_US

Fits '09-later FLTR and FLTRU models. (Will not fit models equipped with the Fuel Tank retrofit mounting kit.)

Does this relate to the recall of the front mount on the fuel tank?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 27, 2010, 10:00:18 PM
Keep em coming!!

This sounded interesting. Seems now you can order the bike with a different engine finish. ???

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 27, 2010, 10:01:38 PM
This sounded interesting. Seems now you can order the bike with a different engine finish. ???


I think the engine finish will be decided (not an option) by which color you get. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 27, 2010, 10:03:04 PM
This sounded interesting. Seems now you can order the bike with a different engine finish. ???



What Dood said
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 27, 2010, 10:03:26 PM
This sounded interesting. Seems now you can order the bike with a different engine finish. ???



I doubt it.  The green one comes black period
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 27, 2010, 10:11:31 PM
I haven't looked through any new features or accessories yet, but a quick glance through the different models and colors, luckily for me, there isn't a one of them that tempts me.  The only 2 that even look like they belong are the black with red SESG and the grey and black SERGU.  Why does Harley come out with some pretty decent looking paint sets to purchase, and come up with such fugly paint schemes for the CVO's?  It's like they're saying, "Watch this!  We'll offer even uglier paint jobs this year, and they'll still fly on the floors because they say Screamin' Eagle on them."
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 27, 2010, 10:43:18 PM
"Each bike also features electronic cruise control and an integrated iPod compatible audio system (complete with a custom-etched iPod nano, except for the Electra Glide Classic). Further electronic goodies come in the form of key-less ignition and a security system with an integrated siren."


This is new.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DavidG on July 27, 2010, 10:48:31 PM
Did they forget the cam cover medallion for this stock photo on the CVO Street Glide? Oops. Or is it optional now?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on July 27, 2010, 10:58:13 PM
Did they forget the cam cover medallion for this stock photo on the CVO Street Glide? Oops. Or is it optional now?

It's clear lexan, silly!   :orange: :huepfenjump3: :mango: :bananarock:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 27, 2010, 10:58:50 PM
Did they forget the cam cover medallion for this stock photo on the CVO Street Glide? Oops. Or is it optional now?


Good eye! As 2LN would say, that's an optional $199 part.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DABB on July 27, 2010, 11:04:44 PM
Holy crap is that green SESG HOTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 11:08:23 PM
Good eye! As 2LN would say, that's an optional $199 part.

And that's in the "plain clear."  If you want it in clear chrome it's another $149!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 27, 2010, 11:09:10 PM
Did they forget the cam cover medallion for this stock photo on the CVO Street Glide? Oops. Or is it optional now?

I guess they're figuring that since you no longer get points behind the cover, you might as well not even get the cover.   :confused5:  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 27, 2010, 11:11:16 PM
I guess they're figuring that since you no longer get points behind the cover, you might as well not even get the cover.   :confused5:  spyder

Isn't that where you're suppose to hide your spare key?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on July 27, 2010, 11:12:31 PM
Isn't that where you're suppose to hide your spare key?


I'm sorry AJ but it's a dumb idea to hide your spare key behind a clear cover....  Really.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 27, 2010, 11:25:49 PM
I called about 10 dealers today about the SESG2 and most are getting the Green one next week.  Did anyone notice the green SESG2 has a gloss black engine?  None of the other SESG2's have that.  Even the black one has the standard silver engine.  I am going with either the Green one or the orange one.  My oldest daughter named the green one the snot rod!!!! LOL
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Mr_Ed on July 27, 2010, 11:44:19 PM
Even the black one has the standard silver engine.

GAH....please say it isn't so..... :(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on July 28, 2010, 05:29:16 AM
I can't believe I'm reading right on the part about the non-CVO touring models.  The Ultra Limited continues with the 103", the Electra Glide Classc gets it too, but the Ultra Classic is the poor relation, staying with the 96"???

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 28, 2010, 06:33:16 AM
Look at "view 2"

HAHAHA!! The proper way to say that would be..."Look at "view 2....dumbazz".....  :P

I've been looking at those CVO pics trying to see where those things came stock at for hours!  :D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 28, 2010, 07:02:06 AM
GAH....please say it isn't so..... :(
It is so... only the black engine is coming on the green (Kryptonite) SESG.

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 28, 2010, 07:16:36 AM
I can't believe I'm reading right on the part about the non-CVO touring models.  The Ultra Limited continues with the 103", the Electra Glide Classc gets it too, but the Ultra Classic is the poor relation, staying with the 96"???

Jim

I believe only the Limited and the Road Glide Ultra get the 103, at least that's the way I read it... Your mouse must have got excited with all that clicking!  ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 28, 2010, 07:21:06 AM

I'm sorry AJ but it's a dumb idea to hide your spare key behind a clear cover....  Really.
Priceless!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 28, 2010, 07:25:22 AM
I noticed on the specs that the 2011 110 creates 115 ft. lbs. @ 4000 Rpm compared to the 2010 which was 115 at 3750. Could this be a small cam change to address the heat issue a little?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on July 28, 2010, 07:45:12 AM
I believe only the Limited and the Road Glide Ultra get the 103, at least that's the way I read it... Your mouse must have got excited with all that clicking!  ;D

Not what they told me - see attached press release from HD themselves!

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: FR8TRN on July 28, 2010, 07:51:20 AM
I believe only the Limited and the Road Glide Ultra get the 103, at least that's the way I read it... Your mouse must have got excited with all that clicking!  ;D

Road King Classic has the 103" standard also....the Ultra doesn't because the Limited has it already, would be redundant....wonder if it will be offered later in the year though.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on July 28, 2010, 07:58:01 AM
Road King Classic has the 103" standard also....the Ultra doesn't because the Limited has it already, would be redundant....wonder if it will be offered later in the year though.

I suspect they'll drop the limited once stocks are gone (at least some of them are the same colours as last year which points to excess inventory) and fit the 103" to the Ultra Classic then.  Right now it's plain NUTS that the most expensive, top of the range, all the bells and whistles, non CVO has a smaller engine than the entry level Classic!

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: FR8TRN on July 28, 2010, 08:20:46 AM
I suspect they'll drop the limited once stocks are gone (at least some of them are the same colours as last year which points to excess inventory) and fit the 103" to the Ultra Classic then.  Right now it's plain NUTS that the most expensive, top of the range, all the bells and whistles, non CVO has a smaller engine than the entry level Classic!

Jim

You might want to look again Jim, the Electra Glide Classis has a 96" engine and the 103" Power Pak isn't available.  And really, the Limited would be what you describe, and it does have the 103"....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on July 28, 2010, 08:32:08 AM
You might want to look again Jim, the Electra Glide Classis has a 96" engine and the 103" Power Pak isn't available.  And really, the Limited would be what you describe, and it does have the 103"....

I looked again - that's why I posted what they sent me!  (Picture above) Of course it wouldn't be the first time they mailed out dud info!  ;D

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: FR8TRN on July 28, 2010, 08:43:35 AM
I looked again - that's why I posted what they sent me!  (Picture above) Of course it wouldn't be the first time they mailed out dud info!  ;D

Jim

Of course the Road Glide Ultra has the 103" standard on it.....they do some strange stuff....oh well....it's theirs to do I guess.  Nothing made me jump up and run to the dealer yesterday.....my '07 is gonna be around another year.

Oh yeah...except this....I already have one, but they added the 103 to it.....I do have something I HAVE to get now. ;)

(http://mysite.verizon.net/vzeo1xmz/flames01.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: martys on July 28, 2010, 09:09:06 AM
Is this what you are looking for
These controls are on the new sound system on the 2011 Convertable ( I believe it is for I-pod only )
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 28, 2010, 09:26:02 AM
Isn't that where you're suppose to hide your spare key?

That's a great idea, but with the heat of the 110, it would melt!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 28, 2010, 09:43:22 AM
That's a great idea, but with the heat of the 110, it would melt!

Now that there is funny...and true at the same time
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: laylonlor on July 28, 2010, 09:44:58 AM
wonder if you take off the lowers on the cvo streetglide, would there be a mustash bar there, or the old engine gaurds
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 28, 2010, 09:57:54 AM
wonder if you take off the lowers on the cvo streetglide, would there be a mustash bar there, or the old engine gaurds

 We'll now with the lowers, the SG owners will know what all the UC riders complain about,
EXCESSIVE ENGINE HEAT!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on July 28, 2010, 10:27:44 AM
If you take the lowers off, then you lose 2 speakers.....I can do without the lowers, the bike is hot enough as it is.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: J-Carr on July 28, 2010, 10:50:02 AM
If you go with that thinking, nothing's been done with the Ultra that couldn't/hasn't been done with the P&A book. I think Moco is on the right track this year.
Hey Rob,

I tend to agree with that statement by itself.  The problem is that as a whole, there's nothing that can't be done with the P&A book.  This years models, CVO and otherwise, are really the exact same thing as last year but with some different P&A stuff here and there.  The Road Glide is cool.  But I'd rather buy the '09 which was much cooler and add a TourPak, Lowers and CB. 

After so many years now with no major change or refinements other then the touring frame, I'd like to see the MoCo do something to attract a broader audience.  We're all getting old(er?)  and I'd like to see the MoCo kicking ass and taking names like it did in the 90s.  One, to ensure an option for my kid to always buy American and two because I'm a sentimental bastard.  Really, the '02 V-Rod is the last major innovation.  ABS, Touring Frame, were big, but not major, and I'd personally say that the 96/110 upgrade and 6 speed were not as big as the hype made it out to be.

I'd buy one of these bikes because they're what I like.  But since I have one that isn't missing anything of significance (sorry Jeff, I've ridden the new framed bike and it's nice, but not worth trading mine over) that's available on these bikes I'll pass.  Many of the people I've talked to feel the same way.  So if a bunch of the loyalists like me are happy and staying with what we've got, and the youngins are looking jap and german, then the MoCo will continue it's downward spiral.  Just my opinion and I hope like hell that I'm wrong.

Ride Safe,
JC
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 28, 2010, 11:11:00 AM
J-Carr,

I hear ya. I just feel that with what they have to work with, there are not a lot of changes that can be made. I think these are better than the 09's because they come with everything a CVO should come with (trunk, lowers, passenger floorboards, etc). I don't know what they could radically do without it being a huge financial risk (flop). To us, its -yawn- because we are spoiled and used to all the things these bikes come with. We live and breath this stuff every week if not every day. To someone who's coming into our "age group" (getting older) its -WOW!-.

I tell ya, I am struggling with getting rid of my current ultra. I agree with you on the frame thing. Other than the wider rear tire, I think it corners worse (drags more) and rides stiffer. However, that being said, It is the smoothest riding/running (103 upgrade) bike I have ever had. It's close to perfect. BUT...I miss the RG I had before (stock built to 103 and FBI kit) because I think it is even a better handling, smoother touring bike than the Ultra. I also miss the power of the 110. Although, the reason I went back to a stock Ultra was to get the color I wanted (Black) and to get away from the problems of the 110.  ???  :P

My current 103 has 255 cams which according to Doc run hotter then the Andrews 54(?). I have a small heat issue that I have not been able to get rid of on this bike. I have changed pipes and used 2 different tuners (SSERT and now Mastertune) to no avail. I don't recall having this problem with my 07 RG built with the same engine. That could be my main deciding factor to go ahead and trade. I know the 110's are hot, but I was able to tame that on my 07 and 09 Ultras.

I have my name on the Charcoal/Black one, but they won't get their feelings hurt if I let it go to someone else I'm sure. Not sure what any of this had to do with our original discussion but I enjoyed the conversation!  ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wenchal on July 28, 2010, 11:18:04 AM
I'm with Nemo, I'm happy and sticking with what I got!  But I do like that GPS interfact, hope it will work with the 550!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Jus Cruisin on July 28, 2010, 11:36:05 AM
When I read about the SERG making a comeback in 2011 shortly after I found and bought my 2009, I was a little concerned that I may have bought too early. Now, after seeing the new one, I am very happy with what I bought!   :jalapeno:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 28, 2010, 11:43:54 AM
When I read about the SERG making a comeback in 2011 shortly after I found and bought my 2009, I was a little concerned that I may have bought too early. Now, after seeing the new one, I am very happy with what I bought!   :jalapeno:

I couldn't agree more... And I don't even own a RG, but the '09 is an awesome bike!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: retired_colonel on July 28, 2010, 11:45:50 AM
I'd do that also if I still had 'young knees'.  :-X har. spyder

+1
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: amigo Jorge on July 28, 2010, 11:49:49 AM
A lot of pictures from dealer show here:

http://harleydavidsonbikercommunity.ning.com/photo/img00241201007271629-1/next?context=user
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wild Card on July 28, 2010, 11:50:13 AM
Hey Rob,

I tend to agree with that statement by itself.  The problem is that as a whole, there's nothing that can't be done with the P&A book.  This years models, CVO and otherwise, are really the exact same thing as last year but with some different P&A stuff here and there.  The Road Glide is cool.  But I'd rather buy the '09 which was much cooler and add a TourPak, Lowers and CB. 

After so many years now with no major change or refinements other then the touring frame, I'd like to see the MoCo do something to attract a broader audience.  We're all getting old(er?)  and I'd like to see the MoCo kicking ass and taking names like it did in the 90s.  One, to ensure an option for my kid to always buy American and two because I'm a sentimental bastard.  Really, the '02 V-Rod is the last major innovation.  ABS, Touring Frame, were big, but not major, and I'd personally say that the 96/110 upgrade and 6 speed were not as big as the hype made it out to be.

I'd buy one of these bikes because they're what I like.  But since I have one that isn't missing anything of significance (sorry Jeff, I've ridden the new framed bike and it's nice, but not worth trading mine over) that's available on these bikes I'll pass.  Many of the people I've talked to feel the same way.  So if a bunch of the loyalists like me are happy and staying with what we've got, and the youngins are looking jap and german, then the MoCo will continue it's downward spiral.  Just my opinion and I hope like hell that I'm wrong.

Ride Safe,
JC

JC, I tend to agree with you here.  This year seems rather lackluster in the offerings.  But, to stay afloat in this economy, I feel they did the right thing, and if their Qtr2 financials are any indication, they're learning from their past foibles.  They know the touring bikes are their bread and butter so they are going to milk that cash cow and thus, we see 3.5 of the 4 CVO's are touring models.  However, I think they are slowing doing what they can without completely offending the diehards to attract young blood and women.  The Superlow, XR1200, Fourty-eight are all attempts to garner interest from the younger and less financially capable crowd.  The V-Rod and Deluxe (this bike got my fiance' into the game due to it's rider position and ease of handling) are full-price options that cater to a slightly different riding position or style.  

Let's be honest, most people my age (31) can only get into the classic Harley if they have really good jobs coupled with that free-spirited lifestyle or image we're looking for.  Their price point is also a large contributor to the fact that there has been a shift in ownership to a larger white-collar demographic.  Hell, I had to enter the game with a Sportster Custom.  I'm sure that bike (and the likes of the 48 or Superlow) is still serving as a gateway drug for many!


Title: Re: 2011
Post by: retired_colonel on July 28, 2010, 11:52:26 AM
I called about 10 dealers today about the SESG2 and most are getting the Green one next week.  Did anyone notice the green SESG2 has a gloss black engine?  None of the other SESG2's have that.  Even the black one has the standard silver engine.  I am going with either the Green one or the orange one.  My oldest daughter named the green one the snot rod!!!! LOL

...gloss black engine; yup, mentioned in my earlier post.  I liked the color scheme until your daughter ruined it...she must have an insane sense of humor...pretty darn clever actually...'snot rod'  .. funny!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 28, 2010, 12:08:52 PM
'd buy one of these bikes because they're what I like.  But since I have one that isn't missing anything of significance (sorry Jeff, I've ridden the new framed bike and it's nice, but not worth trading mine over) that's available on these bikes I'll pass.  Many of the people I've talked to feel the same way.  So if a bunch of the loyalists like me are happy and staying with what we've got, and the youngins are looking jap and german, then the MoCo will continue it's downward spiral.  Just my opinion and I hope like hell that I'm wrong.

I'm in total agreement... I wanted the new frame in 09, but I could not stand the extra heat! I wanted one in 2010,
but the heat and seat got to me again, after a 15 minute ride. I love the new Black CVO Road Glide, and I and afford
it, but same, same same. I want power reliability and WATERCOOLED! I will stick it out.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on July 28, 2010, 12:29:44 PM
I'm with Nemo, I'm happy and sticking with what I got!  But I do like that GPS interfact, hope it will work with the 550!

We'll find out - I just ordered one.

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 28, 2010, 12:59:31 PM
I have been readin the article on MotorcycleUSA.com. In the RG test ride they talk about the 110 being similar in power at 5000 ft elevation as a stock 96 is at sea level. They also mention the ABS brakes...... Ah hell, here, I'll just cut and paste. seems to contradict itself. I would imagine the RG and Ultra are the same as far as engine and ABS brakes. Am I missing something?  :nixweiss:

Regarding the 110 ci

2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra
"Considering that our ride took place in and around Lake Tahoe, Nevada (elevation approximately 5000 feet) the Twin Cam 110 delivered a decent amount of pep under acceleration and climbed steep highway grades without the need to downshift to a lower gear. The added displacement generally negated the effects of operation at altitude and made performance feel essentially the same as a standard Twin Cam 96 engine operated at sea level."

2011 CVO Ultra Classic
"On the road the Twin Cam 110 V-Twin has adequate power to get you moving forward quickly. The added engine displacement was much appreciated during our ride through the Sierra Nevadas at upwards of a mile above sea level. Engine throttle response and the fuel injection settings are well calibrated with the engine running spot-on."

ABS Brakes

2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra
"Brake performance is adequate and for the most part the ABS is calibrated well although it does engage a bit early for my tastes which can compromise stopping distance in an emergency."

2011 CVO Ultra Classic
A good quality and easy to manipulate braking system complements the Electra Glide’s friendly handling manners. The brakes offer acceptable stopping power plus incorporate ABS so you never have to worry about locking up either tire in a panic stop or when riding in inclement weather or on slippery surfaces.

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Beary on July 28, 2010, 01:23:16 PM
The young sportbike age folks are NOT the group that saved Harley in the 90's, why are they the source of a downward spiral now? If MOCO has a problem with the young folks, its the price not the style. And, I don't think the majority of Harley buyers wanted the bike for its its futuristic style and technology, they bought it because it looks like the same cool bike they saw on the road 15 years ago. How many Goldwing riders want the same style of a 10 year old Goldwing? A 10 year old Goldwing looks old and out of style. But a 10 year old Ultra looks like a 2010 Ultra. I don't think I'm far off saying that 90% of riders who buy Harleys wanted the Harley because they know it will look as cool ten years from now as it did 10 years ago. Go ask a Triumph dealer what style of bikes they are selling.

Now I admit that Harley is struggling at the moment, BUT who isn't? This is hardley the time or economy to assume that Harley is struggling from lack of enovation. I think Harley was the number one motorcycle manufacturer just 6 years ago and still in the top two or three now. Harley is doing fine without reinventing itself. Or that at least keeping their heads above water.

Beary
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on July 28, 2010, 01:25:08 PM
Quote
I have been readin the article on MotorcycleUSA.com. In the RG test ride they talk about the 110 being similar in power at 5000 ft elevation as a stock 96 is at sea level. They also mention the ABS brakes...... Ah hell, here, I'll just cut and paste. seems to contradict itself. I would imagine the RG and Ultra are the same as far as engine and ABS brakes. Am I missing something? 

Regarding the 110 ci

2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra
"Considering that our ride took place in and around Lake Tahoe, Nevada (elevation approximately 5000 feet) the Twin Cam 110 delivered a decent amount of pep under acceleration and climbed steep highway grades without the need to downshift to a lower gear. The added displacement generally negated the effects of operation at altitude and made performance feel essentially the same as a standard Twin Cam 96 engine operated at sea level."

2011 CVO Ultra Classic
"On the road the Twin Cam 110 V-Twin has adequate power to get you moving forward quickly. The added engine displacement was much appreciated during our ride through the Sierra Nevadas at upwards of a mile above sea level. Engine throttle response and the fuel injection settings are well calibrated with the engine running spot-on."

ABS Brakes

2011 CVO Road Glide Ultra
"Brake performance is adequate and for the most part the ABS is calibrated well although it does engage a bit early for my tastes which can compromise stopping distance in an emergency."

2011 CVO Ultra Classic
A good quality and easy to manipulate braking system complements the Electra Glide’s friendly handling manners. The brakes offer acceptable stopping power plus incorporate ABS so you never have to worry about locking up either tire in a panic stop or when riding in inclement weather or on slippery surfaces.


I don't see anything contradictory. You will absolutely see a reduction in power with elevation, so that statement is true.  Regarding the inconsistency between the two reviews, I suspect two different reviewers/writers, and their individual perceptions. however, I don't see anything glaring, just two different opinions.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on July 28, 2010, 01:25:54 PM
...good spec sheet for the CVO Road Glide Ultra

                                                 http://www.ultimatemotorcycling.com/2011-harley-davidson-cvo-road-glide-ultra-preview
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 28, 2010, 01:59:55 PM

I don't see anything contradictory. You will absolutely see a reduction in power with elevation, so that statement is true.  Regarding the inconsistency between the two reviews, I suspect two different reviewers/writers, and their individual perceptions. however, I don't see anything glaring, just two different opinions.
Seem consistant to me also.  He did mention the ABS brakes coming in a bit early, for him anyway, and that wasn't mentioned in the other test.  All in all, in agreement.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 28, 2010, 02:04:26 PM
Yeah....I reackon. I got to back off this thing for a while.... I'm getting cross-eyed! ???  :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 28, 2010, 02:08:51 PM
The young sportbike age folks are NOT the group that saved Harley in the 90's, why are they the source of a downward spiral now? If MOCO has a problem with the young folks, its the price not the style. And, I don't think the majority of Harley buyers wanted the bike for its its futuristic style and technology, they bought it because it looks like the same cool bike they saw on the road 15 years ago. How many Goldwing riders want the same style of a 10 year old Goldwing? A 10 year old Goldwing looks old and out of style. But a 10 year old Ultra looks like a 2010 Ultra. I don't think I'm far off saying that 90% of riders who buy Harleys wanted the Harley because they know it will look as cool ten years from now as it did 10 years ago. Go ask a Triumph dealer what style of bikes they are selling.

Now I admit that Harley is struggling at the moment, BUT who isn't? This is hardley the time or economy to assume that Harley is struggling from lack of enovation. I think Harley was the number one motorcycle manufacturer just 6 years ago and still in the top two or three now. Harley is doing fine without reinventing itself. Or that at least keeping their heads above water.

Beary
Beary,
 HD does not have to change the looks......... Just get into the 21st century with a more reliable power.
You can have the same touring bikes, but cool them down. You will get more power, and have a better
ride with a watercooling. Speaking of power, I have 100/100 rear wheel with my other touring bike.
It stays cool, uses regular gas, and is much more reliable then my HD. I will always have different bikes
until HD moves forward.
   By the way, just read an editorial this morning on how HD is demanding give backs from the union
in Milwaukee, but they still made $71 M the last quarter. It said in the paper they are off over 40%
from 2006. I'm thinking with all the demands, quality will not be going up anytime soon, either!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 28, 2010, 02:09:54 PM
Yeah....I reackon. I got to back off this thing for a while.... I'm getting cross-eyed! ???  :P
well, yeah, but I appreciated your comparative analysis of the frames, etc. :2vrolijk_21:  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 28, 2010, 02:18:11 PM
Beary,
 HD does not have to change the looks......... Just get into the 21st century with a more reliable power.
You can have the same touring bikes, but cool them down. You will get more power, and have a better
ride with a watercooling. Speaking of power, I have 100/100 rear wheel with my other touring bike.
It stays cool, uses regular gas, and is much more reliable then my HD. I will always have different bikes
until HD moves forward.
   By the way, just read an editorial this morning on how HD is demanding give backs from the union
in Milwaukee, but they still made $71 M the last quarter. It said in the paper they are off over 40%
from 2006. I'm thinking with all the demands, quality will not be going up anytime soon, either!

With all due respect, I understand your point but your other bike isn't a Harley. A Harley is a Harley. If others want those things you mentioned then they should do as you did and buy something else (like a Goldwing or BMW). I had a Goldwing new in 2006 (and a Harley). I loved many things about it other than I couldn't get it to fit me personally as far as riding position goes (went so far as to buy a Corbin, floorboards, etc). Also, it just wasn't a Harley. Also, it wasn't any cooler riding it (with it being water cooled) here in Florida.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sem_bunda on July 28, 2010, 03:17:59 PM
With all due respect, I understand your point but your other bike isn't a Harley. A Harley is a Harley. If others want those things you mentioned then they should do as you did and buy something else (like a Goldwing or BMW). I had a Goldwing new in 2006 (and a Harley). I loved many things about it other than I couldn't get it to fit me personally as far as riding position goes (went so far as to buy a Corbin, floorboards, etc). Also, it just wasn't a Harley. Also, it wasn't any cooler riding it (with it being water cooled) here in Florida.

Robmay, I'm with you.  Harley is a Harley and no other bike is.  Some quality issues are better and some are worse than metrics or other bikes.  Top to bottom though, all things considered, there's no better American icon in business or bike on the road.  Some are cheaper, some are louder, some are faster, some are more comfortable.  But, like a friend who traded in his Goldwing for HD, "a Honda does what it is supposed to, like a refrigerator, but it doesn't move my soul."

And that 2011 CVO Streetglide in O/B makes me almost want to trade my 09 SERG. Almost.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 28, 2010, 03:40:29 PM
Robmay, I'm with you.  Harley is a Harley and no other bike is.  Some quality issues are better and some are worse than metrics or other bikes.  Top to bottom though, all things considered, there's no better American icon in business or bike on the road.  Some are cheaper, some are louder, some are faster, some are more comfortable.  But, like a friend who traded in his Goldwing for HD, "a Honda does what it is supposed to, like a refrigerator, but it doesn't move my soul."

And that 2011 CVO Streetglide in O/B makes me almost want to trade my 09 SERG. Almost.

You guys missed the whole jest of the statements........... Yes it move the soul, but if it roasts your peanuts off
at every stop sign, leaves you in the middle of Wyoming when something in the engine quits, that's where it needs to
be in the 21st century. Paint & chrome only goes so far! If your thinking about yourself (as most do) Harley will never
get the young people, they want something that they can just ride, and not worry about! Besides, they will have to
cool the beast sooner then you think. They can only go so far before uncle takes over!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sem_bunda on July 28, 2010, 03:49:55 PM
You guys missed the whole jest of the statements........... Yes it move the soul, but if it roasts your peanuts off
at every stop sign, leaves you in the middle of Wyoming when something in the engine quits, that's where it needs to
be in the 21st century. Paint & chrome only goes so far! If your thinking about yourself (as most do) Harley will never
get the young people, they want something that they can just ride, and not worry about! Besides, they will have to
cool the beast sooner then you think. They can only go so far before uncle takes over!

I've ridden over 30k on a Harley in just over 3 years, and the worst problem I've had is that my battery died when I left the lights on (note to self - don't do that again).  That takes more than just paint and chrome.  And engine temps can be an issue in August in Dallas, but I far prefer air-cooled look, sound and feel over my Honda that I traded in on my Harley in late 07.  If they do have to cool the beasts (and you're probably right), that will be a sad day when it does come.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wild Card on July 28, 2010, 04:00:21 PM
I've ridden over 30k on a Harley in just over 3 years, and the worst problem I've had is that my battery died when I left the lights on (note to self - don't do that again).  That takes more than just paint and chrome.  And engine temps can be an issue in August in Dallas, but I far prefer air-cooled look, sound and feel over my Honda that I traded in on my Harley in late 07.  If they do have to cool the beasts (and you're probably right), that will be a sad day when it does come.

This is so true.  In my 7 years of owning Harleys (yes, I'm one of the young ones!), I've not had one problem with any of my bikes.  I bought the bikes for their iconic status...you don't get that with any other manufacturer.  Yeah, they aren't the most technically advanced bikes but I challenge you to show me a production bike that turns more heads at stop lights.  That being said, I still don't feel like I bought a bike prone to breaking down...for us young-ins, we never lived through that era so our experience with the bikes has been mostly good.

From what I can surmise on these boards and with friends, the people having (most) of the mechanical issues are those tinkering with the engine, exhaust, etc... to mimic the performance of the metric bikes.  Sure, the engine is choked by the EPA.  But it's not terrible, in my opinion.  But then again, I ride a yellow CVO in part because it looks damn cool and I don't mind taking my time to give the folks a good view of it!   ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 28, 2010, 04:26:23 PM
Do Highway Pegs work with the lowers on the SG?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: greglyon on July 28, 2010, 04:29:55 PM
Noticed the moco stock went down today...a reflection on Wall Streets reaction to the new models?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wild Card on July 28, 2010, 04:38:43 PM
Noticed the moco stock went down today...a reflection on Wall Streets reaction to the new models?

Highly unlikely.  The market is down in general.  If anything, it's a reaction to the release of the QTR2 financials and the outlook they put forth within.  They've got some labor negotiations that aren't boding well.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 28, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
Noticed the moco stock went down today...a reflection on Wall Streets reaction to the new models?

I have watched this for 20 years and there is no correlation
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 28, 2010, 05:17:46 PM
OK after calling about 50 dealers and talking to some real rocket scientist, I put a deposit on 2 bikes - SESG2 one with Green and black and the other orange and black.  Both should be here next week.  I will take pics in the sun light.  Both were built last week.  C YA!!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on July 28, 2010, 05:19:47 PM
OK after calling about 50 dealers and talking to some real rocket scientist, I put a deposit on 2 bikes - SESG2 one with Green and black and the other orange and black.  Both should be here next week.  I will take pics in the sun light.  Both were built last week.  C YA!!!!

Getting rid of the '10 SESG?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sem_bunda on July 28, 2010, 05:21:35 PM
OK after calling about 50 dealers and talking to some real rocket scientist, I put a deposit on 2 bikes - SESG2 one with Green and black and the other orange and black.  Both should be here next week.  I will take pics in the sun light.  Both were built last week.  C YA!!!!

Go with the O/B - it's the fastest color Harley makes in CVO!   :orange: :carrot: :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on July 28, 2010, 06:21:35 PM
a good old friend used to ride a Deuce and changed to the V-Rod. As he toured a lot in Russia and Ukraina he again changed to BMW GS.

He feared to break down on a country road somewhere between Mocow and nowhere and thought only metric help would be availiable - if any.

In the last 12 month he had 7 recalls and 3 breakdowns - my FLHTCUSE had 1 recall and 1 (easily fixed within 6 hours) breakdown in the same time and did some 5.000 m more.

It isn't really rocket science - but you can rely on it  ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 28, 2010, 07:19:58 PM
a good old friend used to ride a Deuce and changed to the V-Rod. As he toured a lot in Russia and Ukraina he again changed to BMW GS.

He feared to break down on a country road somewhere between Mocow and nowhere and thought only metric help would be availiable - if any.

In the last 12 month he had 7 recalls and 3 breakdowns - my FLHTCUSE had 1 recall and 1 (easily fixed within 6 hours) breakdown in the same time and did some 5.000 m more.

It isn't really rocket science - but you can rely on it  ;)
Now there's a 'real world' comparison.  :2vrolijk_21: har.  :drink: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: amigo Jorge on July 28, 2010, 07:21:17 PM
You guys missed the whole jest of the statements........... Yes it move the soul, but if it roasts your peanuts off
at every stop sign, leaves you in the middle of Wyoming when something in the engine quits, that's where it needs to
be in the 21st century. Paint & chrome only goes so far! If your thinking about yourself (as most do) Harley will never
get the young people, they want something that they can just ride, and not worry about! Besides, they will have to
cool the beast sooner then you think. They can only go so far before uncle takes over!

I have owned 10 Harleys (7 CVO's) and at this moment I have three of them. I have ridden more than 100K miles in 10 years that I have been riding Harleys. I have participated in three Posses, Pony Express Route and on the way to Route 66 in September. I have crossed US from coast to coast in three opportunities. I have ridden in the 48 lower states and several countries in Latin America. NEVER, NEVER I have had the Harleys broken in the middle of the road..........short words: I LOVE HARLEY's especially CVO's!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on July 28, 2010, 08:16:14 PM
I've not had any problems with my 103, but those of you who have never had a problem,
most not read the "Twin Cam" area of this website. Seems "we" are in the
minority of people who have not had problems. FACT is the problems seem to be
with the 110, and those looking the other way seem to be in Denial. I hope no one has
problems but read about everyone else. I've had a lot of friends left on the side of the road,
and are really glad that has NOT happened to you, or me.
  I love my Harley, just want it to be better in the motor area. I hate to worry about the cam tensioner, the crank runout taking out the oil pump. I also worry about the catalytic converter
frying the engine etc, and these thing have happened often.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 28, 2010, 08:50:10 PM
OK after calling about 50 dealers and talking to some real rocket scientist, I put a deposit on 2 bikes - SESG2 one with Green and black and the other orange and black.  Both should be here next week.  I will take pics in the sun light.  Both were built last week.  C YA!!!!
Are you doing both? If so awsome!!!!! and double congratulations.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 28, 2010, 08:52:19 PM
I have owned 9 Harleys (6 CVO's) and at this moment I have three of them. I have ridden more than 100K miles in 10 years that I have been riding Harleys. I have participated in three Posses, Pony Express Route and on the way to Route 66 in September. I have crossed US from coast to coast in three opportunities. I have ridden in the 48 lower states and several countries in Latin America. NEVER, NEVER I have had the Harleys broken in the middle of the road..........short words: I LOVE HARLEY's especially CVO's!!!
   OUTSTANDING!!!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mwg on July 28, 2010, 08:55:16 PM
I have owned 9 Harleys (6 CVO's) and at this moment I have three of them. I have ridden more than 100K miles in 10 years that I have been riding Harleys. I have participated in three Posses, Pony Express Route and on the way to Route 66 in September. I have crossed US from coast to coast in three opportunities. I have ridden in the 48 lower states and several countries in Latin America. NEVER, NEVER I have had the Harleys broken in the middle of the road..........short words: I LOVE HARLEY's especially CVO's!!!

Impressive.. and good news for me because I just purchased his first CVO...... my 05 Road King never left me stranded (well except for a flat tire).

Mike
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 56FLE on July 28, 2010, 09:06:40 PM
I've not had any problems with my 103, but those of you who have never had a problem,
most not read the "Twin Cam" area of this website. Seems "we" are in the
minority of people who have not had problems. FACT is the problems seem to be
with the 110, and those looking the other way seem to be in Denial. I hope no one has
problems but read about everyone else. I've had a lot of friends left on the side of the road,
and are really glad that has NOT happened to you, or me.
  I love my Harley, just want it to be better in the motor area. I hate to worry about the cam tensioner, the crank runout taking out the oil pump. I also worry about the catalytic converter
frying the engine etc, and these thing have happened often.
But I have not heard of many engine problems with the 110s in 2009 and 2010 models. So the end result is that the problems with the 110 engine are being ironed out and people are not questioning the motor much anymore. Now it is all about getting a better cam to boost the Torque and HP. The days of leaking head gaskets seemed to have passed.





 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on July 28, 2010, 09:26:48 PM
But I have not heard of many engine problems with the 110s in 2009 and 2010 models. So the end result is that the problems with the 110 engine are being ironed out and people are not questioning the motor much anymore.


WRONG!
I have 39000 miles on my 09 SEUC and I question the 110 everytime I crank it.
I am lucky to have a dealer that believes in good customer service.
I believe that anyone with a 110 that hasn't had issues is either very lucky or hasn't put enough miles on it. 
For me and maybe only me (but I doubt it's just me) in comparison to my 01 SERG with 25K miles, my 03 Classic with 52K miles and Nancy's SEEG(s) my 09 110
is the least dependable motor in my garage. I'm not crying about it but after 39K miles and all the issues I have had, I am hoping I may have a motor in my 09 that I can finally feel good about. Time will tell!

SBB


Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Jock on July 28, 2010, 09:37:55 PM

my 09 110
is the least dependable motor in my garage. I'm not crying about it but after 39K miles and all the issues I have had, I am hoping I may have a motor in my 09 that I can finally feel good about. Time will tell!

SBB

And yet another reason why I choose to retain my 103!

I do indeed wish all of the 110 owners Good Luck but for me I must sit this one out for now....

(http://www.faithmouse.com/sit_this_one_out.jpg)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 28, 2010, 09:42:48 PM
I did cancel my deposit on the green one today.  I just like the true Harley colors of orange and black.  Green might just be a fade.  Should be here either by the end of this week or definitely next week.  I will post pics ASAP!!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 28, 2010, 09:43:08 PM
...By the way, just read an editorial this morning on how HD is demanding give backs from the union
in Milwaukee, but they still made $71 M the last quarter. It said in the paper they are off over 40%
from 2006. I'm thinking with all the demands, quality will not be going up anytime soon, either!


Noticed the moco stock went down today...a reflection on Wall Streets reaction to the new models?

Maybe Wall St. realizes the problem lies with the union. There are plenty of "Right to Work" States and moving may have to be an option. Look at Toyota.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 09:55:35 PM
I found a 2011 Cvo Street Glide today at my Local dealership. Its the black one If anyone wants it. I now want the black and orange one. The black does not do enough for me in the sun.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 28, 2010, 10:02:52 PM

WRONG!
I have 39000 miles on my 09 SEUC and I question the 110 everytime I crank it.
I am lucky to have a dealer that believes in good customer service.
I believe that anyone with a 110 that hasn't had issues is either very lucky or hasn't put enough miles on it. 
For me and maybe only me (but I doubt it's just me) in comparison to my 01 SERG with 25K miles, my 03 Classic with 52K miles and Nancy's SEEG(s) my 09 110
is the least dependable motor in my garage. I'm not crying about it but after 39K miles and all the issues I have had, I am hoping I may have a motor in my 09 that I can finally feel good about. Time will tell!

SBB




Chip

This is the issue that makes me hesitate to purchase a new Harley. My 08 is my first, and to date, only Harley that has had so many problems:
-Cylinder liner slippage
-ECM
-Electronic Throttle Control System

On the other hand, she's the best handling HD I've ever tossed a leg over. On par with the new frame based on the new scoots I've tried.

I really like the B/O and the Black Diamond/Crimson SESG. However I hesitate to purchase new. I seem to finally have Lexi "fixed" with no down time this year. I'll decide after I see em in the sun light. If it grabs me, well  :nixweiss:

JW

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 28, 2010, 10:03:41 PM
I found a 2011 Cvo Street Glide today at my Local dealership. Its the black one If anyone wants it. I now want the black and orange one. The black does not do enough for me in the sun.

Did ya get any pics? Really like to see her in the sun.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 10:12:40 PM
No JW, I didn't take any pics of it. But i have to go back in the morning and i will take some pics and post them.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on July 28, 2010, 10:17:21 PM
Chip

This is the issue that makes me hesitate to purchase a new Harley. My 08 is my first, and to date, only Harley that has had so many problems:
-Cylinder liner slippage
-ECM
-Electronic Throttle Control System

On the other hand, she's the best handling HD I've ever tossed a leg over. On par with the new frame based on the new scoots I've tried.

I really like the B/O and the Black Diamond/Crimson SESG. However I hesitate to purchase new. I seem to finally have Lexi "fixed" with no down time this year. I'll decide after I see em in the sun light. If it grabs me, well  :nixweiss:

JW




And Jeff I/we all know the issues you have faced with your bike.
I love my 09 SEUC but the facts are clear. Of all the Harley I have owned in the past 10 years it is the least dependable bike I have owned.
People can respond about how dependable their 110 has been but how many have 39000 miles on theirs?
I am extremely thankful for my dealer and some close friends on this site for their help that has been above and beyond the norm.
As I told Keith Wandell, if it wasn't for my dealer standing behind the Motor Companies product my 09 SEUC would have already been history.

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 28, 2010, 10:18:26 PM
No JW, I didn't take any pics of it. But i have to go back in the morning and i will take some pics and post them.

You DA MAN!!!!  I was on the fence about the black one, but after I saw the orange/black one in the sunlight with the magazine pics I knew that was it!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 10:25:00 PM
I wanted the black one until i saw it today. Now i have to wait until October to get the orange and black. If it ships when they say it will.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 28, 2010, 10:26:03 PM
I have been confused for over a year about this heat issue that everyone else seems to agree on.  I did one of those foolish tests this past weekend...with the temp around 93 degrees, I decided to ride in shorts for the day and see if this thing is hot or not.  I only ever took my 07 RK Classic out once in a pair of shorts and I thought I was going to die.  Well, just as I suspected, I had no heat problems whatsoever with my bike.  I sat in traffic jams, I rode, and basically everything I would normally do when I'm riding.  My 09 SEUC does not throw off anything even remotely close to what my 96" motor did.  After about 27,000 miles on this bike, I've finally decided to stop wondering when I'm going to experience all of this heat and just ride.  Maybe it's just the positioning of the D&D exhaust or the tuning, or maybe I just have a miracle bike.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 10:36:09 PM
Don't get me wrong. Black is my favorite color but I think the orange and black is going show better in the sun. Like the Tequila sunrise  street glide does.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 28, 2010, 10:36:43 PM
No JW, I didn't take any pics of it. But i have to go back in the morning and i will take some pics and post them.

Man, That would be great!

I think the Black Diamond / Crimson Tag look is more like the 04/05 SEEG as well as last years SESG. The others are just a bit flashy for me. Great looking scooters, just not my style. Not sure I have any style now that I think about it.
Those SEEG were some of the best looking scooters made IMO.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on July 28, 2010, 10:37:35 PM
or maybe I just have a miracle bike.


My vote--------> Miracle bike---------->  :2vrolijk_21:
If it has to happen to someone, might as well be you Dave!
See you at the Gorge!

 ;)

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 28, 2010, 10:42:49 PM

My vote--------> Miracle bike---------->  :2vrolijk_21:
If it has to happen to someone, might as well be you Dave!
See you at the Gorge!

 ;)

SBB


Maybe it's because I'm one of the chosen people....that and running Prestone in my bike instead of oil (but please don't try this at home).
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 10:45:45 PM
Man, That would be great!

I think the Black Diamond / Crimson Tag look is more like the 04/05 SEEG as well as last years SESG. The others are just a bit flashy for me. Great looking scooters, just not my style. Not sure I have any style now that I think about it.
Those SEEG were some of the best looking scooters made IMO.

JW
It Does Remind me of the 2010 FLHTCUSE5 with out flames.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: deaf1 on July 28, 2010, 10:46:57 PM
No new Road King!!!!  :mango: :mango:

Love it!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Hawg on July 28, 2010, 10:49:12 PM
none of the 2011 CVO bikes scream at me like the Spiced rum screamed at me.  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 28, 2010, 10:53:08 PM
none of the 2011 CVO bikes scream at me like the Spiced rum screamed at me.  :nixweiss:

That's the one that almost got me last year!

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 10:54:57 PM
No new Road King!!!!  :mango: :mango:

Love it!
What year did they make the blue and black cvo road king? I really liked that color.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 28, 2010, 10:59:42 PM
I wanted the black one until i saw it today. Now i have to wait until October to get the orange and black. If it ships when they say it will.

Hey CJ,

I don't know how soon you want one, but I have a deposit on two orange/black ones.  Either one should be here this week or next week.  I am getting the one that comes in first.  You can have the other one if you want.  One is in Maryland and the other in Pennsylvania.  Both are MSRP. Both have been built and shipped.

C YA!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 11:00:18 PM
That's the one that almost got me last year!

JW
[ Me 2!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 28, 2010, 11:02:35 PM

And Jeff I/we all know the issues you have faced with your bike.
I love my 09 SEUC but the facts are clear. Of all the Harley I have owned in the past 10 years it is the least dependable bike I have owned.
People can respond about how dependable their 110 has been but how many have 39000 miles on theirs?
I am extremely thankful for my dealer and some close friends on this site for their help that has been above and beyond the norm.
As I told Keith Wandell, if it wasn't for my dealer standing behind the Motor Companies product my 09 SEUC would have already been history.

SBB


I agree. So why am I even considering purchasing a new scooter? I need to have my head examined. Of course guys like JCZ and his sweet SESG are clicking off the miles with no problems to date. Maybe it's me.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 28, 2010, 11:02:47 PM
No new Road King!!!!  :mango: :mango:

Love it!

Funny you should say that. I was just thinking, back in 2006 when I was looking at buying a full dresser, one of the deciding factors was that the CVO was usually only produced for two years. I was torn buying a used '06 in Autumn Haze or the then new 110" 6 speed O/B. My deciding factor was that the '07 had the new engine (hindsight is 20/20) and would be my last chance for several years to buy a NEW CVO dresser. Now that we have SIX years running with the SEUC line, they seem to be a dime a dozen. The mystique of owning Harley's top of the line flagship has worn off and is now almost commonplace.
Back in 2002, demand was so high, dealers were able to make a buck. The  MoCo says they're cutting production by 10-15% but it might be too little too late.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 11:06:56 PM
Hey CJ,

I don't know how soon you want one, but I have a deposit on two orange/black ones.  Either one should be here this week or next week.  I am getting the one that comes in first.  You can have the other one if you want.  One is in Maryland and the other in Pennsylvania.  Both are MSRP.

C YA!
Thanks! They already had my deposit but i will let my buddy know. He wants one to. When you get yours post some pics so i can see it.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 28, 2010, 11:10:24 PM
Thanks! They already had my deposit but i will let my buddy know. He wants one to. When you get yours post some pics so i can see it.
Ok no problem.  The one dealer said that it might come today or tomorrow because they are having the 2011 model open house at their dealership this weekend and it should be there.  They did ask if it came in if they could use it to show this weekend.  I told him no problem, but no one is to sit on it...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Hot Rod on July 28, 2010, 11:14:10 PM
My 2011 CVO. Street Glide3  will be in by this comeing tuesday! :2vrolijk_21: Full MSRP. I will post some pics ASAP. Hot Rod
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 28, 2010, 11:16:06 PM
I'm wondering... in 6 months to a year from now when the SEEG & SEURG are on the "pre-owned" market, how many will still have the original iPod Nano still with the bike?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 11:22:16 PM
Ok no problem.  The one dealer said that it might come today or tomorrow because they are having the 2011 model open house at their dealership this weekend and it should be there.  They did ask if it came in if they could use it to show this weekend.  I told him no problem, but no one is to sit on it...
Thats cool.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 28, 2010, 11:24:31 PM
My 2011 CVO. Street Glide3  will be in by this comeing tuesday! :2vrolijk_21: Full MSRP. I will post some pics ASAP. Hot Rod
Congrats!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 28, 2010, 11:28:35 PM
Ok no problem.  The one dealer said that it might come today or tomorrow because they are having the 2011 model open house at their dealership this weekend and it should be there.  They did ask if it came in if they could use it to show this weekend.  I told him no problem, but no one is to sit on it...

I wouldn't let it sit at the dealer one minute longer than it has to.  Way too many people are just not good at looking.  They have to put their paws all over things.  When I bought mine, I had them move it off the floor into their private bike delivery room before I would go to the office to start the paperwork.  Sure enough, while I was in the credit office, another salesman came to find me and ask me if this couple that came in could go look at my bike and sit on it.  I told him that as long as they didn't mind waiting until I was done, they could watch me ride away on it, and they did wait.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Joelgonia on July 28, 2010, 11:45:00 PM
little ticked the 2011 CVO Ultra closely mirrors my Blk - not to worry, I'm enhancing the flames paint scheme anyway.

FYI -- Hope I got one of those "miracle bikes"  -- 6,300 miles thus far on the Blk, plus another 12 on the 08 with no significant problems.  Hope to keep this one a while -- maybe 100k !!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Hot Rod on July 28, 2010, 11:46:18 PM
Congrats!
Man i can't wait until tuesday!! :orange: :2vrolijk_21: Hot Rod
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: MJZ on July 29, 2010, 12:14:38 AM
I have sat back playing on my BMW's for quite a while waiting on the 2011 CVO lineup. I was 95% decided to get the SEUC for the last month but after seeing them, I really can't get too excited about it. Now 3 of the SESG's are friggen perfect and I think because they so remind me of the 04-05 SEEG's. Having been away from Harley's for a year or so I assumed the 110 problems (which left such a bad taste from MoCo sent me to BMW) were history. After reading through this topic I'm a little uncomfortable going to my local stealer this week and grabbing the first SESG due in as planned. Damn, this is just like finding out there is no Santa. >:(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Joelgonia on July 29, 2010, 12:47:28 AM
MJZ -- If you keep reading, many of us haven't experienced these problems.  I went BMW for a while also, then came to my senses and realized the whole time I was on the BMW, I wondered what it would be like back on my Harley -- go figure!!  Yes, I bought the 5 yr extended warranty.  No, I haven't had any major issues with either of my CVOs.

Gotta do what u gotta do
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 29, 2010, 01:05:44 AM
I have sat back playing on my BMW's for quite a while waiting on the 2011 CVO lineup. I was 95% decided to get the SEUC for the last month but after seeing them, I really can't get too excited about it. Now 3 of the SESG's are friggen perfect and I think because they so remind me of the 04-05 SEEG's. Having been away from Harley's for a year or so I assumed the 110 problems (which left such a bad taste from MoCo sent me to BMW) were history. After reading through this topic I'm a little uncomfortable going to my local stealer this week and grabbing the first SESG due in as planned. Damn, this is just like finding out there is no Santa. >:(

My starter went and the automatic compression releases (ACO).  The ACO's appeared to be the reason for the starter to go.  Minor inconvenience once the shop was convinced it was the ACO's that needed replaced.  That's the biggest problem I've had.  Everything's covered under the warranty that goes wrong and I haven't had anything that kept me off the road for more than the day.  Believe me, there have been days that I've thought about going the BMW or Goldwing route, but after a bit of soul searching, I still realize that I'd be going right back to where I was before I owned a Harley...wanting one again.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: skreminegul07 on July 29, 2010, 07:27:35 AM
What year did they make the blue and black cvo road king? I really liked that color.

2007 Blue, Black , Red,  all with gold leaf flames
2008, Blue ,Black, both with tiny flames in the paint, and the Anniversary browns.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: muddypaws on July 29, 2010, 07:48:06 AM
When will the first 2011 UCEG show up at the dealers. My dealer said he does not know
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 29, 2010, 07:52:08 AM
My 2011 CVO. Street Glide3  will be in by this comeing tuesday! :2vrolijk_21: Full MSRP. I will post some pics ASAP. Hot Rod

That is AWESOME.  Did you get the green?  I was told by numerous dealers the fist wave is the orange and black and then the green and black will be rolled out in September, at least where I live.  I do know that on the dealer sheet all that is listed for incoming color is Black Diamond.  They have to call the factory or rep to find the second color.  I had about 10 dealer ssay they were getting Black Diamond and did not know the second color.  After about 4 hours or so all called back stating they were getting the orange and black.  Can't wait to see the pics!!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on July 29, 2010, 07:55:41 AM
I agree with several of the posts above.  I've ridden Harleys almost 100,000 miles and the only problem I've had is a voltage reg quitting due to a loose battery cable.  I've had Goldwings, Valkyries and Triumphs and not one of them was "FUN" to ride.  Every time I get on my Harley, I feel like it's a part of me.  There is NO other motorcycle like it...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 29, 2010, 09:17:39 AM
What year did they make the blue and black cvo road king? I really liked that color.

Here's a pic of the Black Diamond 08 SERK. I still think this is one of Harley's best efforts.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 56FLE on July 29, 2010, 11:22:34 AM

WRONG!
I have 39000 miles on my 09 SEUC and I question the 110 everytime I crank it.
I am lucky to have a dealer that believes in good customer service.
I believe that anyone with a 110 that hasn't had issues is either very lucky or hasn't put enough miles on it. 
For me and maybe only me (but I doubt it's just me) in comparison to my 01 SERG with 25K miles, my 03 Classic with 52K miles and Nancy's SEEG(s) my 09 110
is the least dependable motor in my garage. I'm not crying about it but after 39K miles and all the issues I have had, I am hoping I may have a motor in my 09 that I can finally feel good about. Time will tell!

SBB





SBB,

My original motor died in 2008 at 24,500 miles. HD replaced it with a 2009 motor and I now have 66,800 miles and have not had one problem with the motor. I just finished a trip from Michigan to Texas, the Southwestern GTG, Sacramento, Yellowstone, Deadwood/Mt. Rushmore area, HD Museum, Michigan UP and back to Grand Rapids. Only problem was the bearing behind the clutch making noise and it was replace under extended warranty.

My bike just has slip-ons and the SE AC so it does not make the Torque and HP that a 110 with a cam would make but then again it does not put as much pressure on the internal parts because of it.

Sorry you have had so many problems with your motor.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 29, 2010, 11:26:33 AM
Thanks for that perspective. Good to know about the success stories too!  :drink:

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 29, 2010, 11:29:28 AM

SBB,

My original motor died in 2008 at 24,500 miles. HD replaced it with a 2009 motor and I now have 66,800 miles and have not had one problem with the motor. I just finished a trip from Michigan to Texas, the Southwestern GTG, Sacramento, Yellowstone, Deadwood/Mt. Rushmore area, HD Museum, Michigan UP and back to Grand Rapids. Only problem was the bearing behind the clutch making noise and it was replace under extended warranty.

My bike just has slip-ons and the SE AC so it does not make the Torque and HP that a 110 with a cam would make but then again it does not put as much pressure on the internal parts because of it.

Sorry you have had so many problems with your motor.

More and more I think this is the key. MINOR adjustments.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 56FLE on July 29, 2010, 11:39:54 AM
More and more I think this is the key. MINOR adjustments.
I agree, I might not be the fastest bike but I'm fast enough to play with the big boys and when they are bitching about their bike in the shop due to major engine problems I just start my bike and go for another long ride.
 :2vrolijk_21: 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LoneCustom on July 29, 2010, 11:50:36 AM
I have sat back playing on my BMW's for quite a while waiting on the 2011 CVO lineup. I was 95% decided to get the SEUC for the last month but after seeing them, I really can't get too excited about it. Now 3 of the SESG's are friggen perfect and I think because they so remind me of the 04-05 SEEG's. Having been away from Harley's for a year or so I assumed the 110 problems (which left such a bad taste from MoCo sent me to BMW) were history. After reading through this topic I'm a little uncomfortable going to my local stealer this week and grabbing the first SESG due in as planned. Damn, this is just like finding out there is no Santa. >:(

I went from a BMW full dresser TO a Harley CVO.  My BMW was their "cruiser" model, so the seat height was good for me (I have pretty short legs, so any seat higher than 31" is too high).  I always felt that the BMW carried its weight too high (the top of the gas tank was almost at chest height).  The engine was 1200cc, but it only had about 56 hp (but lots of torque).  Even going up a small hill, I needed to shift down a gear.  It was a nice bike, but cornering at low speed made me very nervous.  The high center of gravity made it feel like the bike would tip over.  Not a good feeling.  
My SEUG is a much more enjoyable ride.  Stable at low speeds, gobs of power, great looks...  plus, all of the Harley history and "mystique".  
(I did go with the extended warranty, however.  Seemed like pretty cheap insurance).
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Mrs Rooster on July 29, 2010, 11:54:59 AM
I agree, I might not be the fastest bike but I'm fast enough to play with the big boys and when they are bitching about their bike in the shop due to major engine problems I just start my bike and go for another long ride.
 :2vrolijk_21: 

And it looks like this.  :oops:

Sorry John the devil made me do it.  :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Trapperdog on July 29, 2010, 12:05:24 PM
And it looks like this.  :oops:

Sorry John the devil made me do it.  :huepfenlol2:
  :oops:  :huepfenjump3:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on July 29, 2010, 12:11:18 PM
Here's the other side of the CVO quality issues-

2001 FXDWG2- engine case didn't get sealant all the way around cases- so motor completely dissassembled with less than 1000 miles, bone stock bike

2001 SERG- pull throttle cable broike at 2000 miles, idling engine while running 65 mph on 6 lane divided highway,
main circuit breaker failed several times while riding, shutting the bike off at speed- eventually replaced as a recall because we couldn't duplicate the problem for the dealer- everybody else's had to also fail before it was fixed- all problems occurred before we did a fuelpak and knocked out the exhaust plugs (it ran MUCH better after these mods)

2006 CUSE- compensator nut came loose at least 3 different times- would have really tore everything up had I not bitched at the dealers several times about a knocking noise in the primary until the finally took things apart and saw the loose nut/bolt, was stock except for mufflers, now has SERT on it

2007 CUSE- has had the head gaskets done 5 times, hot as hell to ride, only mod is a chrome air cleaner backing plate and a K&N filter, 20k miles

as for our non cvo bikes- 95 & 97 Evo's both had base gaskets done within a couple thousand miles of purchasing bikes new, 2001 Ultra- had a hole in the front wheel casting at purchase, the radio quit and had to be replaced, it had cruise switch fail at the start of an 8500 mile trip to Alaska, cam sensor fail in Whitehorse- leaving us stranded for 3 days

As far as our non Harley's  93 Suzuki Intruder- no problems, 85 Honda VF1100s- headgasket failed after spending 2 years running the autobahns at 150+mph and it had about 40k miles on it when it did fail otherwise no issues in 55k miles, 74 Kawasaki H2 750 triple- vibrated every nut loose unless loctighted or wired- but it was a 2 stroke and ran like a raped ape.

I am not expecting NO problems, just minimal problems that should only require 1 fix.  Why is it the newer the Harley, the more problems it has????  Okay, you could argue it's got more stuff.  But the 2 newest are having issues with stuff every other bike has.  Why can't the moco at least get the basics right?  I will agree that my Ultra does give me a soul stirring ride, but so did every bike I've had.  They're all different.  Simple quality control would be nice.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on July 29, 2010, 12:29:06 PM
And it looks like this.  :oops:


Your sorry I had so many problems with my motor.
Well that makes 2 of us.
And my point is that based on previous experience with Evo's and the 88", 95" and 103" my 09 SEUC 110 is the least dependable motor I have.
Would I buy another 110?
YES!
But I now know what the potential problems are and would take proactive action to insure those didn't bite me on the road.

SBB


But have never seen the 09 SEUC on a rollback. (yet)

Quote
I agree, I might not be the fastest bike but I'm fast enough to play with the big boys and when they are bitching about their bike in the shop due to major engine problems I just start my bike and go for another long ride.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: MJZ on July 29, 2010, 12:40:42 PM
Chip, if I pull the trigger and buy a SESG in the next week or so, what proactive measures are you suggesting?

Thanks,
Mark Z
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: HUBBARD on July 29, 2010, 12:44:35 PM

Your sorry I had so many problems with my motor.
Well that makes 2 of us.
And my point is that based on previous experience with Evo's and the 88", 95" and 103" my 09 SEUC 110 is the least dependable motor I have.
Would I buy another 110?
YES!
But I now know what the potential problems are and would take proactive action to insure those didn't bite me on the road.

SBB


But have never seen the 09 SEUC on a rollback. (yet)


Yeah, like go 'head and punch and stroke it, from the get go.  I have never been mad or embarrassed when one of my Big-Motors lays down.  Those fleas come with the dog.  Back when I couldn't afford any modifications, I think I had more problems with Stock Motors.  But, then again, that was that AMF junk.  What is the main problem, if there is one, with these new 110's?  Mechanical, or electrical?  :nixweiss:  May be thinking about retiring Ol' Maudie. Please advise.  Later--HUBBARD
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on July 29, 2010, 12:50:33 PM
Nothin a good wallet whippin wont fix... :D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on July 29, 2010, 01:09:51 PM
 What is the main problem with these new 110's?  Mechanical, or electrical?  :nixweiss:  May be thinking about retiring Ol' Maudie. Please advise.  Later--HUBBARD

Wayyyyyy to much to type Hub, I'll call you later today.

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: MJZ on July 29, 2010, 01:17:22 PM
Also to address the post about advice on going back to HD from BMW; I've had 9 HD's since 1992, 3 CVO's and 4 BMW's since 07. Right now I have a K1300S, S1000RR (mostly track) and a KTM to play in the dirt. I have no intention of parting with any of the bikes I have now as they are perfect for their intended use. But I miss a Touring bike and my favorite in that type was my 05 SEEG. Do I still have a horrible taste from my past expierences with HD and my local stealer? HELL YES! Is there a touring bike I prefer to HD? HELL NO! So my returning to a touring Screamin Eagle was completely always planned but no way would I part with my track bike or my sport tourer which are both much more abusively ridden than any HD I've owned. BTW, none of the 4 BMW's have even been to the dealer ever except for regular mait. and always with an appointment that the longest I've waited for my bikes was 2 hours.  Complete services run less than $150.00 and most have been less than $100 and BMW dealers encourage you to stay with your bike as the service is performed in case you have any questions or just want to be better informed about your bike. ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BUBBLEHEAD on July 29, 2010, 01:30:23 PM
SBB    I'd like to know also so if you get the time could you fill us in on the preventitive measures as you see them.
It would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 56FLE on July 29, 2010, 01:43:46 PM
And it looks like this.  :oops:

Sorry John the devil made me do it.  :huepfenlol2:
Yep, that was 2008, bike hasn't seen the back of a wrecker since. As I said, after 2009, the motors have become more reliable, not perfect but you don't hear everyone complaining about oil leaking out of the heads or base of the cylinders.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: erniezap on July 29, 2010, 04:29:28 PM
From the Vegas meeting.  CVO Roadglide Ultra
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: erniezap on July 29, 2010, 04:30:15 PM
CVO Roadglide
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: erniezap on July 29, 2010, 04:30:36 PM
CVO Streetglide
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: erniezap on July 29, 2010, 04:30:59 PM
Another view
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: erniezap on July 29, 2010, 04:31:26 PM
Orange/Black
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 29, 2010, 04:31:59 PM
thanks keep them coming
great job
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BUBBLEHEAD on July 29, 2010, 04:47:05 PM
Do you have a pic of the CVO Ultra Classic? Would like to see more pics of that.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: erniezap on July 29, 2010, 04:51:41 PM
I've posted all that I have.  Sorry guys
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 29, 2010, 09:10:46 PM
I did cancel my deposit on the green one today.  I just like the true Harley colors of orange and black.  Green might just be a fade.  Should be here either by the end of this week or definitely next week.  I will post pics ASAP!!!!
Congratulations and I can't wait for pictures and initial impressions!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 29, 2010, 09:13:16 PM
Here's a pic of the Black Diamond 08 SERK. I still think this is one of Harley's best efforts.

JW
I'd love to see the CVO KING brought back.....Any chance?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 29, 2010, 09:16:51 PM
I've posted all that I have.  Sorry guys
Excellent pictures and thank you for sharing them.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2010, 09:33:13 PM
Here's a pic of the Black Diamond 08 SERK. I still think this is one of Harley's best efforts.

JW
Thanks JW! Thats the one i would like to get if i can find one. I always wanted that color. After i get my 2011 street glide i will buy one next year.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2010, 09:34:52 PM
2007 Blue, Black , Red,  all with gold leaf flames
2008, Blue ,Black, both with tiny flames in the paint, and the Anniversary browns.
Thanks Brother
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 29, 2010, 09:38:02 PM
Thanks JW! Thats the one i would like to get if i can find one. I always wanted that color. After i get my 2011 street glide i will buy one next year.

She is sweet looking. She's also been my tempermental child. Did ya get any pics of the Black Diamond / Crimson SESG today?

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2010, 09:41:18 PM
She is sweet looking. She's also been my tempermental child. Did ya get any pics of the Black Diamond / Crimson SESG today?

JW
Yes Sir. I have a couple they still have not put the bike together but i still will put the pics on.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2010, 09:57:38 PM
Yes Sir. I have a couple they still have not put the bike together but i still will put the pics on.
Jw How do you put the pics on this page? I put one on and it went to my profile
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on July 29, 2010, 10:02:31 PM
Jw How do you put the pics on this page? I put one on and it went to my profile


Hit reply and at the lower left side of the page there is an attach section and you can browse to the pic you want to post
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 29, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
When your posting your reply, there's a box with at bottom left of page with Attach and a browse button. Hit the browse button, attach your file and post away.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BUBBLEHEAD on July 29, 2010, 10:04:40 PM
CJ

Go to reply and almost at the bottom left there is a Bold  ATTACH  click on browse, find the pic and click on it. It will attach to your reply.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CJ on July 29, 2010, 10:35:37 PM
Thanks Guys, I posted them on the pictures page. The bike will be finished tomorrow so i will take my camera and take better pics and post them. I will get some outside pics to show the flake in it.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: guppytrash on July 29, 2010, 11:13:05 PM
Chrome wheels, if it has the chrome wheels, I like it.  Maybe its the just in the pictures but I am not a huge fan of the contrast wheels.  There is enough contrast between the chrome wheel and the black tire.  Part of the OCD club I guess. 



 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 29, 2010, 11:34:07 PM
Chrome wheels, if it has the chrome wheels, I like it.  Maybe its the just in the pictures but I am not a huge fan of the contrast wheels.  There is enough contrast between the chrome wheel and the black tire.  Part of the OCD club I guess. 



 

Change #1 would have to be chrome wheels if it doesn't already have them.  Next, if those cow bells are painted, change them to chrome.  Another OCD member here.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 29, 2010, 11:43:29 PM
Chrome wheels, if it has the chrome wheels, I like it.  Maybe its the just in the pictures but I am not a huge fan of the contrast wheels.  There is enough contrast between the chrome wheel and the black tire.  Part of the OCD club I guess. 



 


I'd leave it stock.

JW



except for chrome wheels, stage 1 A/C, Fulsac exhaust, different cam...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 30, 2010, 12:35:44 AM
Orange/Black


Thanks Ernie. They are some b-i-g speakers in the lowers.

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161228;image)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wrongway on July 30, 2010, 12:37:43 AM
 King tour pack??? The Orange picture has a passenger back rest, are these standard?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on July 30, 2010, 12:40:44 AM
King tour pack??? The Orange picture has a passenger back rest, are these standard?

You can see the Autumn Haze (my personal favorite) in the background in this picture without it.
AJ

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161228;image)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 30, 2010, 06:43:00 AM
Keep the eye candy coming!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on July 30, 2010, 08:05:09 AM
I hate to be negative, but does anyone other than me think that these bikes are getting ridiculously more and more expensive?  With all the problems I'm reading about, what's the deal here?  It seems as though whatever the MoCo puts out, we will buy...no matter how expensive they are.  My '05 doesn't run hot, doesn't break down and has plenty of power.  Outside of a couple of the colors in the entire new lineup, it looks as though they had a blind man (or woman) pick them!  Just my opinion...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Wrongway on July 30, 2010, 08:22:18 AM
I hate to be negative, but does anyone other than me think that these bikes are getting ridiculously more and more expensive?  With all the problems I'm reading about, what's the deal here?  It seems as though whatever the MoCo puts out, we will buy...no matter how expensive they are.  My '05 doesn't run hot, doesn't break down and has plenty of power.  Outside of a couple of the colors in the entire new lineup, it looks as though they had a blind man (or woman) pick them!  Just my opinion...

 Had a phone conversation with Ernie last night about this same subject. I/we believe the 2005 line was the best offered and if I replace my 2006 I will do so with a low mile 2005. You will not see me at a dealer ordering a 2011.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: DavidG on July 30, 2010, 08:28:56 AM
The King Tour Pak is now available as an add-on part. Its listed in the Color Shop and its painted to match the CVO colors. Pricey though. Who would have thought that.....


53000076DGA

IN-STORE PURCHASE ONLY Contact dealer for pricing and availability.

Fits '11 FLHXSE2 models. Includes matching 3-tone CVO™ graphics, Premium Hinges and Retractable Tether.
        Kryptonite
MSRP US $1,399.95
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on July 30, 2010, 08:59:14 AM
I hate to be negative, but does anyone other than me think that these bikes are getting ridiculously more and more expensive?  With all the problems I'm reading about, what's the deal here?  It seems as though whatever the MoCo puts out, we will buy...no matter how expensive they are.  My '05 doesn't run hot, doesn't break down and has plenty of power.  Outside of a couple of the colors in the entire new lineup, it looks as though they had a blind man (or woman) pick them!  Just my opinion...

Completely agree - I told our dealer principal that he'd sold me the last CVO I'd buy, (I'd bought three new CUSE models in three years!) when they put the price here up twice in 6 months (plus we had a tax increase on them) from around $37000 to $48000.  He asked me why, and I told him because 1) they are just not worth the money, or anything close - I could buy a loaded BMW 3 series car for that!!! - and 2) because I won't be ripped off. I can afford to buy one if I want, but I'm not stupid enough to pay that, as it really is just a ripoff.

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on July 30, 2010, 09:59:10 AM
Wow!  I thought I'd really catch some flak over my post.  I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who feels that prices are getting out of hand.  I wonder what would happen if the new CVO's just sat on the floor?  I'm sure that you'd see the prices falling.  By the way.  If anyone's interested in an '05 with LOW miles, here's a link I found on Ebay...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=180538462930&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on July 30, 2010, 10:24:13 AM
I wonder what would happen if the new CVO's just sat on the floor? 

I wish they WOULD - people paying the prices (especially here in the UK) that they are asking simply have more money than sense, plain and simple.  Nothing to do with being able to afford it, just encouraging the ripoff.  £30,000 (and going up again here!) for a bike?!?!?!  That's just plain stupid.  But there are some guys who just have to have the latest that  the MoCo offers, and will pay any price.  Among them are many, I think, who suffer from the old "Emperor's New Clothes" syndrome - they fall over themselves to pay stupid prices for a bike that's really, really ugly to most folks, but try hard to convince themselves it looks great.  It MUST look great, because it's a CVO, right?  Wrong.  For most folks, Harleys are about nice colours, and chrome.

Just my 2¢ worth.......

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on July 30, 2010, 11:13:30 AM
Well said.  It all boils down to freedom of choice.  I choose NOT to give up my hard earned money for something that I feel is over priced and over hyped.  Don't get me wrong, I love my CVO.  But I knew I was going to have to wait a couple of years and look for a stock one with low miles because I wasn't going to pay over $30,000 for it.  If and when I get rid of it, I will probably look for one a couple of years old again and save about $10,000.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 30, 2010, 11:13:59 AM
Haters.  :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on July 30, 2010, 02:17:59 PM
It's just so hard to choose between food and a new bike...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mrmagloo on July 30, 2010, 02:43:59 PM
Haters.  :P
Haha - While I like my 2006 SEUC, and my 2004 SED, I have to admit that there are a number of features on the more recent SEUC's that interest me. I think the auto-locking is very cool. I also like the 6 speed, 6 gallon tank, new Ipod controller, and a few other things too. While I can upgrade some of this stuff, at some point it's better off just to buy a new one.

I was really hoping that I was going to be knocked out by the 2011 SEUC's paint schemes, and was actually very shocked to see one color which was essentially the same design as the 2010's. What's with that? The good thing is, I like what I have and I am more than willing to hold out until they come up with something I like more. At the rate they're going, I'm guessing it would take a total revamp, with a liquid cooled balanced motor, a new inner with modern electronics. But, only God knows how far that's down the road.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kb on July 30, 2010, 02:49:00 PM
I took a short ride this morning to see the new CVO Street Glide. I for one always that thought that black was beautiful,but the new black diamond is outright gorgeous.I think that this is the best looking bike Harley Davidson has produced to this date. I also agree that it is a chitload of money. Although compared to my 08 SERK @ $30 thousand, $33 thousand doesn't seem out of line when you consider that you get hard bags,full fairing lowers and a radio. I missed buying the first one that my local dealer had, but I am next on the list. Now all I need to do is make my beautiful,fun loving,considerate,intelligent wife see what a great deal this is. kb
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: guppytrash on July 30, 2010, 03:25:07 PM
  

I was really hoping that I was going to be knocked out by the 2011 SEUC's paint schemes, and was actually very shocked to see one color which was essentially the same design as the 2010's. What's with that? The good thing is, I like what I have and I am more than willing to hold out until they come up with something I like more. At the rate they're going, I'm guessing it would take a total revamp, with a liquid cooled balanced motor, a new inner with modern electronics. But, only God knows how far that's down the road.



I would bet my house on the fact we will see at least one 2011.5 model year FLHTCUSE with another paint sheme.  Just look at how much hype they got out of the 2010.5.  Looks like HD is working hard at the HYPE!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: michaelbmenaker on July 30, 2010, 03:25:53 PM
You simply cannot add to a non-CVO bike and get it equipped like a CVO for the same cost. And, if you do, you still don't have the CVO paint and some special features/trim.
My feeling is that if you like what comes on a CVO, they are a great deal.

Adding lowers and upgrading the stereo on my '10 Spiced Rum cost me more than the increase in price from '10 to '11 SESGs. No way I could afford to trade my '10, but I think the '11 SESGs are a good value and look fantastic. But, of course, not inexpensive.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: JP-FLTRSE3 on July 30, 2010, 03:28:20 PM
Wait a year and you'll be able to get these bikes new under MSRP.  Bought my 09 SERG in March for $28,000.  There are still new 09 and 10 CVOs available.  They produce more than they used to and the demand is less.  Don't get screwed.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 30, 2010, 05:12:00 PM
I took a short ride this morning to see the new CVO Street Glide. I for one always that thought that black was beautiful,but the new black diamond is outright gorgeous.I think that this is the best looking bike Harley Davidson has produced to this date. I also agree that it is a chitload of money. Although compared to my 08 SERK @ $30 thousand, $33 thousand doesn't seem out of line when you consider that you get hard bags,full fairing lowers and a radio. I missed buying the first one that my local dealer had, but I am next on the list. Now all I need to do is make my beautiful,fun loving,considerate,intelligent wife see what a great deal this is. kb

KB

Are you talking the Black Diamond / Crimson SESG? Help a brother out, tell me you got a good pic in the sun light.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 30, 2010, 05:54:18 PM
KB

Are you talking the Black Diamond / Crimson SESG? Help a brother out, tell me you got a good pic in the sun light.

JW
now Black Diamond, you know these scooters look much better in person than in pics......you just gotta wait my man.  ;D har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 30, 2010, 06:17:43 PM
now Black Diamond, you know these scooters look much better in person than in pics......you just gotta wait my man.  ;D har.  spyder

Heck Bro, I'm real bad a patience! Still kicking around in my nugget to find a low mileage 04 B/B like that beauty you have.  :drink:

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 30, 2010, 06:20:34 PM
Wait a year and you'll be able to get these bikes new under MSRP.  Bought my 09 SERG in March for $28,000.  There are still new 09 and 10 CVOs available.  They produce more than they used to and the demand is less.  Don't get screwed.

Sure wish I could find a Silver 09 New for $28,000. Tried to buy one a few months ago from a dealer in NY that was used (but less than 2000 miles) and they wanted almost MSRP for it.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Harleyrider_49 on July 30, 2010, 08:16:55 PM
KB

Are you talking the Black Diamond / Crimson SESG? Help a brother out, tell me you got a good pic in the sun light.

JW

I got a few......Demo rides in my area this wk/end.....Behold.....the "BlackDiamond"........
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Harleyrider_49 on July 30, 2010, 08:18:48 PM

# 2
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Harleyrider_49 on July 30, 2010, 08:20:25 PM
# 3
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Harleyrider_49 on July 30, 2010, 08:22:03 PM
# 4      The only 2011 CVO model I seen represent'd there.....they do have a blue 2010 Softail Convrtible on the floor, though.....28K on it , I b'lieve......
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 30, 2010, 08:37:14 PM
Stunning bike yellowhog!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 30, 2010, 08:57:30 PM
Thanks Harleyrider_49. I was jonesin for a while.
I like her. More my style than the "flashier" colors.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: firefighter156 on July 30, 2010, 09:31:03 PM
I wouldn't let it sit at the dealer one minute longer than it has to.  Way too many people are just not good at looking.  They have to put their paws all over things.  When I bought mine, I had them move it off the floor into their private bike delivery room before I would go to the office to start the paperwork.  Sure enough, while I was in the credit office, another salesman came to find me and ask me if this couple that came in could go look at my bike and sit on it.  I told him that as long as they didn't mind waiting until I was done, they could watch me ride away on it, and they did wait.

I have to agree.  Unless they rope it off, keep it in the back room.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on July 30, 2010, 10:08:31 PM
So far none have hit the ground here.  I now have a deposit on a black/orange one and a green one.  I was set on the orange until I spoke with SEVERAL dealers that were at the show and saw it in person and said the orange was very pale and almost looked peach.  They ALL said the green was unbelievable!!!  One even said that he could guarantee me that in a court of law in front of 100 people NO ONE could say, "Your honor I did not see him coming".  That was the best line ever....  The orange one will be here in a few days and the green one beginning of September.  We will see...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on July 31, 2010, 06:35:51 AM
One even said that he could guarantee me that in a court of law in front of 100 people NO ONE could say, "Your honor I did not see him coming".  That was the best line ever....
Priceless comment!!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Harleyrider_49 on July 31, 2010, 07:53:09 AM
Thanks Harleyrider_49. I was jonesin for a while.
I like her. More my style than the "flashier" colors.

JW
Yer welcome......it is a thing o' beauty, 'specially w/all the additions to this model......theres some graphics go'n on deep down in the paint between the striping(tank,fairing,etc.) that really pop depend'n on how the sun hits it(might see a little in the pics).....good color combo for sure.....would like to see the "Kryptonite" bike out in the sun.....got a feel'n this bike is gonna really stand out in the sun.....I think the MoCo really hit a homer w/this model,for this year! :2vrolijk_21:



                                                                              :coolblue:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 31, 2010, 09:15:17 AM
Going to look at one at a near local dealer today. RG Charcoal Slate/Black. I'll take some pics if it's out of the box. Wasn't out yet yesterday.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: JP-FLTRSE3 on July 31, 2010, 09:20:33 AM
Sure wish I could find a Silver 09 New for $28,000. Tried to buy one a few months ago from a dealer in NY that was used (but less than 2000 miles) and they wanted almost MSRP for it.

I'll have to admit I got lucky and I have a good friend who's been sourcing bikes and working deals for years who helped me.  The idea is you source the bike within a distance you're willing to travel and ride home from.  The longer that distance the better your chances.  Then you negotiate over the phone like it's a used car.  Make sure they know you can make the deal with no money issues.  I offered to walk in with a cashier's check in hand.  Soon a seller will break down and take your low offer.  In many southern states the dealers have trouble selling these bikes.  Often they'll dump them to dealers elsewhere.

I think the bikes are a good value compared to the stock bikes and I don't know that I'll ever buy a new stock bike again.  But, Harley is a shrinking company so it just doesn't set right with me to pay at or above MSRP.  They aren't really limited editions you know.  They watch sales and make as many as they think they can sell without making it seem like they're easy to get.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on July 31, 2010, 09:34:16 AM
I'll have to admit I got lucky and I have a good friend who's been sourcing bikes and working deals for years who helped me.  The idea is you source the bike within a distance you're willing to travel and ride home from.  The longer that distance the better your chances.  Then you negotiate over the phone like it's a used car.  Make sure they know you can make the deal with no money issues.  I offered to walk in with a cashier's check in hand.  Soon a seller will break down and take your low offer.  In many southern states the dealers have trouble selling these bikes.  Often they'll dump them to dealers elsewhere.

I think the bikes are a good value compared to the stock bikes and I don't know that I'll ever buy a new stock bike again.  But, Harley is a shrinking company so it just doesn't set right with me to pay at or above MSRP.  They aren't really limited editions you know.  They watch sales and make as many as they think they can sell without making it seem like they're easy to get.


I believe this 1000%. If they could sell 5000 of each bike at MSRP then they would produce them.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Joelgonia on July 31, 2010, 11:24:18 AM
interesting to know how much of these bikes (how many parts) are actually mfg in the US -- I own a business, so I'm willing to pay MSRP and allow the MoCo to make their profit, but not a cent more!  If we (the buying public in the US) knew these bikes were actually made here (not just assembled), thus keeping Americans at work and contributing to the US economy, I like to think we would be less critical. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on July 31, 2010, 11:50:40 AM
True, but too many of us have a "me-first" mindset.  They don't give a damn about anyone but themselves let alone care about whether or not something is made here...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: BigLew55 on July 31, 2010, 01:55:19 PM
True, but too many of us have a "me-first" mindset.  They don't give a damn about anyone but themselves let alone care about whether or not something is made here...

It's a two-way street!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: bbrown on July 31, 2010, 04:47:25 PM
Heck Bro, I'm real bad a patience! Still kicking around in my nugget to find a low mileage 04 B/B like that beauty you have.  :drink:

JW

I have one with under 18k on it that I will likely sell next month. Need the $ for my new business 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on July 31, 2010, 06:11:07 PM
I got a few......Demo rides in my area this wk/end.....Behold.....the "BlackDiamond"........

Thanks for posting this pic Harleyrider... On the way back from the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame today, my wife and I stopped in at Biker Bob's H-D in Taylor, MI (although I thought I was going to Motown H-D) and they had the same black SESG on the floor.  The bike looks much better in the sunlight as shown in your photo.

Nice bike, but I have always felt that the CVO line up was (and should) always be a little flashier with fancy paint jobs, making them stand out in a crowd... Although this bike is nice, it just doesn't jump out at me like the other colours.  Same can be said for last year's black 10-1/2 Ultra model released in January 2010.  With all due respect to all who have already purchased one of those, please let's not get all excited with that comment... It's only my humble opinion.  I just think the CVO's should make a definite statement and those two bikes being so dark just don't speak loud enough for my taste.

On the new lower fairing speakers and tweeters in the fairing dash on the 2011 SESG... Nice idea to make better use of the space, (after all, what good was the ambient air temp or gas gauge or glove boxes anyway), sounds great, but certainly no better (if as good) as my HOGTUNES 8 speaker setup, and I personally like the look of the HOGTUNES Tweeter Bar much better, especially when it's colour matched!

Just sayin.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on July 31, 2010, 07:12:24 PM
While someone is mentioning flashier paint jobs, have you folks taken a look at the new paint sets Harley offers?  That "Frenzy" paint set is more like what we should be seeing on these bikes.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 31, 2010, 09:12:17 PM
KB

Are you talking the Black Diamond / Crimson SESG? Help a brother out, tell me you got a good pic in the sun light.

JW
Do you really want to see it?? :evilgrin: :sneaky: :wiseguy:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 31, 2010, 09:14:17 PM
Thanks Harleyrider_49. I was jonesin for a while.
I like her. More my style than the "flashier" colors.

JW
You need us to help you find one? :sneaky: :evilgrin: :wiseguy:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 31, 2010, 11:09:45 PM
now Black Diamond, you know these scooters look much better in person  than in pics......you just gotta wait my man.  ;D har.  spyder

Spyder, Your wiser than your years my man. While on the job today, I found one. Damn! That is one very nice scooter. Not too loud and flash, subdued and sweet. I took a bunch of pics with my just issued to me BlackBerry. Now I can get them to download as it a company phone and not completely set up, I guess. Giving me a BlackBeery is like watch a monkey make love (can use that other word) to a football.

Now the real dilemma:
1. buy her and sell Lexi
2. buy her and keep my SERKS
3. buy an 04 B/B and keep my SERKs
4. keep my money and be satisfied with what I got

Do you really want to see it?? :evilgrin: :sneaky: :wiseguy:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
You need us to help you find one? :sneaky: :evilgrin: :wiseguy:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

I believe I mentioned before, you have a lot of hate in ya and need professional help.  >:(  :)  ;D Gary, Thanks for the kick you know where delivered as only you can deliver it!!  :drink:

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 31, 2010, 11:11:49 PM
I have one with under 18k on it that I will likely sell next month. Need the $ for my new business 

Hate to see you have to sell her. I'll PM you. Feel like I'm possibly capitalizing on your troubles.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on July 31, 2010, 11:13:51 PM
Spyder, Your wiser than your years my man. While on the job today, I found one. Damn! That is one very nice scooter. Not too loud and flash, subdued and sweet. I took a bunch of pics with my just issued to me BlackBerry. Now I can get them to download as it a company phone and not completely set up, I guess. Giving me a BlackBeery is like watch a monkey make love (can use that other word) to a football.

Now the real dilemma:
1. buy her and sell Lexi
2. buy her and keep my SERKS
3. buy an 04 B/B and keep my SERKs
4. keep my money and be satisfied with what I got

I believe I mentioned before, you have a lot of hate in ya and need professional help.  >:(  :)  ;D Gary, Thanks for the kick you know where delivered as only you can deliver it!!  :drink:

JW

See my vote above!

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 31, 2010, 11:19:37 PM
See my vote above!

SBB

Chip,

It is a very good option. I like to write out pluses and minuses on stuff like this. Will get on that tomorrow after some shut eye. Only getting 4.5 to 5 hours a night last couple. Too much going on in the retirement job.

I remember drooling all over Spyder's B/B @ Maggie Valley. Damn sharp scooter.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sadunbar on July 31, 2010, 11:25:55 PM
I think Jeff should start a poll - list about 10 options - and agree to be bound by the outcome!!!!   ::) :huepfenlol2:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 31, 2010, 11:28:30 PM
I think Jeff should start a poll - list about 10 options - and agree to be bound by the outcome!!!!   ::) :huepfenlol2:

WOW  Whatever I did or said to you, I humbly apologize sir! LOL


By the way you could buy my "lighter" 08 SERK. With you mechanical abilities, no problems.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on July 31, 2010, 11:36:42 PM
All good options JW, I don't see how you can lose on any of those choices.  ;) har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sadunbar on July 31, 2010, 11:37:25 PM
WOW  Whatever I did or said to you, I humbly apologize sir! LOL


By the way you could buy my "lighter" 08 SERK. With you mechanical abilities, no problems.

JW

Hmmm...  I'm thinking more like 00/01/02/03/04/05/06 models....not only lighter and lower, but.... ::)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sadunbar on July 31, 2010, 11:38:44 PM
All good options JW, I don't see how you can lose on any of those choices.  ;) har.  spyder

See Jeff, that's what I was thinking!  We'll just assist with any indecision you may experience...   :)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 31, 2010, 11:40:59 PM
Spyder, Your wiser than your years my man. While on the job today, I found one. Damn! That is one very nice scooter. Not too loud and flash, subdued and sweet. I took a bunch of pics with my just issued to me BlackBerry. Now I can get them to download as it a company phone and not completely set up, I guess. Giving me a BlackBeery is like watch a monkey make love (can use that other word) to a football.

Now the real dilemma:
1. buy her and sell Lexi
2. buy her and keep my SERKS
3. buy an 04 B/B and keep my SERKs
4. keep my money and be satisfied with what I got

I believe I mentioned before, you have a lot of hate in ya and need professional help.  >:(  :)  ;D Gary, Thanks for the kick you know where delivered as only you can deliver it!!  :drink:

JW
As long as the next bike has a fairing, and the candy brandy gets motor work my job will be done. :sneaky: :wiseguy: :evilgrin: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 31, 2010, 11:41:31 PM
All good options JW, I don't see how you can lose on any of those choices.  ;) har.  spyder

My main reluctance with buying a new scooter is reliability based on my own experiences. However, I have several friends with 09's, no issues to date.

Of course money is an issue but this would not kill me to buy her. Then there's having three touring bikes.

JW

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on July 31, 2010, 11:43:01 PM
See Jeff, that's what I was thinking!  We'll just assist with any indecision you may experience...   :)

Well, since your just looking out for my best interest...how could I have been so shallow.
As long as the next bike has a fairing, and the candy brandy gets motor work my job will be done. :sneaky: :wiseguy: :evilgrin: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Evil Bastage!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on July 31, 2010, 11:44:28 PM
....
Evil Bastage!
:huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2: :2vrolijk_21:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 01, 2010, 12:42:34 AM


Then there's having three touring bikes.

JW




Yeah, that is just dumb.  Two and a half or 2.65 or whatever it is makes much more sense.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on August 01, 2010, 12:51:25 AM
The only thing better than 3 touring bikes would be having 4 touring bikes.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 01, 2010, 12:52:59 AM
The only thing better than 3 touring bikes would be having 4 touring bikes.


Well.... d'uh.....   I shouldathoughtathat.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on August 01, 2010, 08:29:38 AM
The only thing better than 3 touring bikes would be having 4 touring bikes.

Like this?


 ;D

SBB



click on pictures to enlarge
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 01, 2010, 09:59:31 AM

Yeah, that is just dumb.  Two and a half or 2.65 or whatever it is makes much more sense.

LOL! I thought of you as I wrote that. I notice you have not gotten into the newer platform or TBW system or etc. Hmmmm. Perhaps you are on the right path.

The only thing better than 3 touring bikes would be having 4 touring bikes.

LOL! Man sometimes it's good to not be married. I get to do what I can justify to myself.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Buy early on August 01, 2010, 10:47:19 AM
Like this?


 ;D

SBB



click on pictures to enlarge

Love the way you interior decorate with exhaust systems!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on August 01, 2010, 10:57:17 AM
Love the way you interior decorate with exhaust systems!


Thanks

There's the coated Fatcat on the shelf on the left.
The stock 01 Sharkfin set hanging from the ceiling above the 03.
The stock 09 SEUC system above the 09.
And the Fatcat ghost pipe hanging above the 05 finishes the decor.

Hanging all those pipes was exhausting!

 ;D                                              ;D

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Buy early on August 01, 2010, 11:07:25 AM

Thanks


Hanging all those pipes was exhausting!

 ;D                                              ;D

SBB
:P :P :P

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 01, 2010, 12:01:30 PM

LOL! I thought of you as I wrote that. I notice you have not gotten into the newer platform or TBW system or etc. Hmmmm. Perhaps you are on the right path.



Nope.  And no great temptation either.  Some of the new rides look nice.  But not any nicer than what we've got.  Some new systems offer capability that would be interesting.  But few that can't be retrofit if you really want to (ABS being the exception).  All that being said I've become so disappointed in the MoCo the last few years that they aren't getting money out of me for new bikes anymore.

The dealerships too often are an embarrassment to themselves and the company they represent (if they had the standards requisite to be embarrassed).  The company has such QC issues that the literally put riders at risk and don't seem to give a damn.  So I'm one of the "Harley generation," men of a certain age that should still be sucking the HD teat, that don't.  At least no more than necessary.

I patronize the quality side of the aftermarket for parts as much as I'm able.  Do my own maintenance as much as I'm able.  And give as few dollars as possible to HD itself or their representative dealerships.  I love my bikes.  The company is as much fun as the heat rash you get riding in the hot sweaty south in the summer time.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Racerdj on August 01, 2010, 01:09:25 PM
Nice garage SBB!!!...What's in it!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on August 01, 2010, 01:34:03 PM

Nope.  And no great temptation either.  Some of the new rides look nice.  But not any nicer than what we've got.  Some new systems offer capability that would be interesting.  But few that can't be retrofit if you really want to (ABS being the exception).  All that being said I've become so disappointed in the MoCo the last few years that they aren't getting money out of me for new bikes anymore.

The dealerships too often are an embarrassment to themselves and the company they represent (if they had the standards requisite to be embarrassed).  The company has such QC issues that the literally put riders at risk and don't seem to give a damn.  So I'm one of the "Harley generation," men of a certain age that should still be sucking the HD teat, that don't.  At least no more than necessary.

I patronize the quality side of the aftermarket for parts as much as I'm able.  Do my own maintenance as much as I'm able.  And give as few dollars as possible to HD itself or their representative dealerships.  I love my bikes.  The company is as much fun as the heat rash you get riding in the hot sweaty south in the summer time.

I agree...it's a shame that after you get the bike you want as little as possible to do with the dealer and the MoCO as far as parts and service is concerned. Parts--sometimes when you have to, but service---as little as humanly possible. Besides..apart from anything obvious all the little problems and noises are considered "normal" as far as they are concerned.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 01, 2010, 02:25:48 PM

Nope.  And no great temptation either.  Some of the new rides look nice.  But not any nicer than what we've got.  Some new systems offer capability that would be interesting.  But few that can't be retrofit if you really want to (ABS being the exception).  All that being said I've become so disappointed in the MoCo the last few years that they aren't getting money out of me for new bikes anymore.

The dealerships too often are an embarrassment to themselves and the company they represent (if they had the standards requisite to be embarrassed).  The company has such QC issues that the literally put riders at risk and don't seem to give a damn.  So I'm one of the "Harley generation," men of a certain age that should still be sucking the HD teat, that don't.  At least no more than necessary.

I patronize the quality side of the aftermarket for parts as much as I'm able.  Do my own maintenance as much as I'm able.  And give as few dollars as possible to HD itself or their representative dealerships.  I love my bikes.  The company is as much fun as the heat rash you get riding in the hot sweaty south in the summer time.

I agree with much of your statement. They need to get their customer service / quality control in order. Ah heck, I don't need to buy another possible problem. Just look for a "new to me" older scooter.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Trey767 on August 01, 2010, 03:08:41 PM
I agree with TWOlane/MJB765  ;D

And what a garage  :bananarock: one day when I grow up nice job. ::)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on August 01, 2010, 07:43:22 PM
have to disagree - 09-up frame is a must have  ::)

The more you get used to it, the more it stings.

If you buy one of the new touring bikes - after a time you will send the rest to museum  ;)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on August 01, 2010, 07:57:13 PM
have to disagree - 09-up frame is a must have  ::)

The more you get used to it, the more it stings.

If you buy one of the new touring bikes - after a time you will send the rest to museum  ;)

Respectfully disagree to the above.
Each of the bikes in my garage is ready and able to ride to California if called upon.
And each can do it in a style distinctively their own, with me as a happy participate.
All of my bikes can and will go to redline when called to and why waste that opportunity by parking them in a museum?

SBB


Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 01, 2010, 08:14:52 PM

have to disagree - 09-up frame is a must have  ::)


Nope.  It's not.  There are improvements.  Won't dispute that.  But the difference is not so jaw droppingly dramatic that 08 and prior touring bikes suddenly suffer so dramatically in comparison you don't want to ride them.  Get a pre-09 dialed in to you like you should and it's still a completely adequate ride.  Unless you're just a sucky rider.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on August 01, 2010, 08:22:47 PM
I rode for years and thousands of miles on that "old frame" 5 spd trans, standard brakes, etc. with no complaints.  There is always going to be new technology developed, but a lot of that technology is designed to keep selling the products. Some is good and some isn't but the choice is ours...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 01, 2010, 08:45:45 PM
Respectfully disagree to the above.
Each of the bikes in my garage is ready and able to ride to California if called upon.
And each can do it in a style distinctively their own, with me as a happy participate.
All of my bikes can and will go to redline when called to and why waste that opportunity by parking them in a museum?

SBB




Maybe to the California border, but beyond that you risk fines for your exhaust systems.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on August 01, 2010, 08:49:20 PM
Maybe to the California border, but beyond that you risk fines for your exhaust systems.


Occifer Dave them der x-aust pipes be factry.
I sware!

 ::)

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 01, 2010, 08:51:12 PM

Occifer Dave them der x-aust pipes be factry.
I sware!

 ::)

SBB

Yuck, yuck, yuck, yuck!   8)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sadunbar on August 01, 2010, 08:57:12 PM
Nope.  It's not.  There are improvements.  Won't dispute that.  But the difference is not so jaw droppingly dramatic that 08 and prior touring bikes suddenly suffer so dramatically in comparison you don't want to ride them.  Get a pre-09 dialed in to you like you should and it's still a completely adequate ride.  Unless you're just a sucky rider.

There are changes.  Some are improvements.  Some turn out to not be improvements.  Often it's just a personal thing...  Sometimes the chit just doesn't work!

My wife has a Chevrolet Venture.  It has a button to push to open the rear door.  She see's it and loves it.  I see it and wonder what the heck was wrong with the handle that has been there for the last 40 years.  The handle worked every time and was cheap to manufacture.  Never broke one ever.  And it suited the purpose well - to open the door.  I am sure the new button and associated pieces added cost to the vehicle.  And it has failed twice.  Is the new button to open the rear door an improvement?  Not to me...  But my wife still loves it...

Same with new bikes.  Every year new models are rolled out.  Everyone who's into bikes gets excited, whether they're looking to buy or not.  We all look at the new features.  Some are eager to buy because of the features, others won't buy because of the features.  It seems the last few years the prices have gone up and the reliability has gone down - so I've not been interested in buying.  I'd love to have some of the new features....  A new chassis, a 6 gallon tank, stretched bags and wider rear tire.....if.....I could order one without TBW (because it scares me), without the 110 motor and all its issues, without power this and power that...... but they don't make them like that.  The features I don't want out number the features I want.

So I ride what I have and hope someday a new model rolls out that strikes me as super cool, reliable and a value for my money...   :2vrolijk_21:

I'm still waiting.....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 01, 2010, 10:10:44 PM

There are changes.  Some are improvements.  Some turn out to not be improvements.  Often it's just a personal thing...  Sometimes the chit just doesn't work!


Couldn't agree more Scott.  The frame that was then the primary point seems an improvement.  Not like Phoebe Cates in that bikini climbing out of the pool oh hosanna an improvement.  But they made something better.  Not all the changes are better though; or at least not ready for prime time.

I'd not touch HD's fly by wire.  Doesn't matter that auto makers and aeronautics have had it figured out for years and that it's nothing new.  Mother Harley hasn't mastered the hardware nor the software yet.  Lax standards for engine and other specs have evolved a host of other things that just aren't where they should be.

The new data management "HDLAN" system on the2011 Softails is another example.  It intrigues the hell out of me for all the things Mother Harley could do with it.  There is a lot of potential there.  And I'm willing to hope it won't be at least a minor CF.  But this is Harley.  They don't do new things well.  So part of you has to say "god help the Softail guys this year because they don't get guinea pig pay."
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: GtreetSlide on August 01, 2010, 11:55:07 PM
Couldn't agree more Scott.  The frame that was then the primary point seems an improvement.  Not like Phoebe Cates in that bikini climbing out of the pool oh hosanna an improvement.  But they made something better.  Not all the changes are better though; or at least not ready for prime time.

I'd not touch HD's fly by wire.  Doesn't matter that auto makers and aeronautics have had it figured out for years and that it's nothing new.  Mother Harley hasn't mastered the hardware nor the software yet.  Lax standards for engine and other specs have evolved a host of other things that just aren't where they should be.

The new data management "HDLAN" system on the2011 Softails is another example.  It intrigues the hell out of me for all the things Mother Harley could do with it.  There is a lot of potential there.  And I'm willing to hope it won't be at least a minor CF.  But this is Harley.  They don't do new things well.  So part of you has to say "god help the Softail guys this year because they don't get guinea pig pay."

Yea, with all that new technology HD will soon be able to fix your electronic issues from far away by dialing your cell phone number and having you plug it into a jack on your bike, LOL...
Not sure how that "remote access" will work when your base gasket blows though,  :behead:
jb
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: CVOJOE on August 02, 2010, 02:46:02 AM
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if I could order one without TBW (because it scares me), without the 110 motor and all its issues, without power this and power that...... but they don't make them like that.  The features I don't want out number the features I want.
    :2vrolijk_21:  :2vrolijk_21:

Couldn't agree more. Back to basics would benefit the MOCO, they've lost track of what made them great in the past. Well at least for a while.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on August 02, 2010, 05:55:21 AM
Nope.  It's not.  There are improvements.  Won't dispute that.  But the difference is not so jaw droppingly dramatic that 08 and prior touring bikes suddenly suffer so dramatically in comparison you don't want to ride them.  Get a pre-09 dialed in to you like you should and it's still a completely adequate ride.  Unless you're just a sucky rider.

Completely agree, Don.  My pre-09 frame bikes were all much more comfortable to ride than the current one - and so what if they did that wallow thing on long fast bends?  Once you got used to the fact that they did, and you knew that it wasn't going to make you fall off, it didn't matter.  My 09 batters me through every bone in my body on every little bump.

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: HOGMIKE on August 02, 2010, 09:29:08 AM
Completely agree, Don.  My pre-09 frame bikes were all much more comfortable to ride than the current one - and so what if they did that wallow thing on long fast bends?  Once you got used to the fact that they did, and you knew that it wasn't going to make you fall off, it didn't matter.  My 09 batters me through every bone in my body on every little bump.

Jim


Mine did too.........until I upgraded the suspension front and rear!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 02, 2010, 09:33:39 AM
Completely agree, Don.  My pre-09 frame bikes were all much more comfortable to ride than the current one - and so what if they did that wallow thing on long fast bends?  Once you got used to the fact that they did, and you knew that it wasn't going to make you fall off, it didn't matter.  My 09 batters me through every bone in my body on every little bump.

Jim


Mine did too.........until I upgraded the suspension front and rear!


Mine did (2010 Reg Ultra) and still does even with progressives on the rear (440 long). Can't seem to get it right. Either too soft or too firm.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: HOGMIKE on August 02, 2010, 09:50:15 AM
FWIW:

I've an "old" '95 EVO with elite 3 tires, stock frame, 440's on the rear, 15wt oil in the forks. We ride 2-up most of the time on this bike, and it tracks like on rails.
No wallowing in the curves, no wiggling of the forks. It behaves as well as my '09 and '10 did.
There seems to be a problem with the later frame combinations up to the '09's, say 2003 to 2008.
Some of these "mid-year" bikes handle fine, according to the owners, others are a handful.
Maybe we can get some feedback to what years are fine, and what years there seems to be a problem? And what was done to try to correct them?
Just wondering.
 :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on August 02, 2010, 10:11:10 AM
My 04 RK handled fine, but my 06 SG was horrible...go figure :confused5:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kb on August 02, 2010, 10:46:34 AM
I had a 2005 Ultra not a cvo. I dreaded riding it . My back was killing me after 20 miles. For a bike that was designed to do long distance it didn't impress me.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LRebel on August 02, 2010, 11:31:29 AM
Two Ultras: 

02 Non-CVO - the bike rode great... scrapped the footboards on a regular basis with no wallowing in the turns.

08 CVO Ultra- the bike rides like an Iron-Wheeled Wagon.  With the wife on back and the Bushtec hooked up, it's not too bad.  One up, it will beat your kidneys out on these rough Oklahoma roads.  Drag the footboards on this one regularly too... no wallow.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: michaelbmenaker on August 02, 2010, 02:28:25 PM
My 09 batters me through every bone in my body on every little bump.

I've got to say, my '10 SESG is the most comfortable Harley I've ridden in the 20 years I've had Harleys. Fork is very compliant and the hydraulic shock is superb. Just back from a 3,000 mile tour and couldn't be happier with the ride, performance, fit and finish. And, with the ABS brakes, it's even safer than older HDs.

Great bike, good dealer (High Country HD in Colorado)...I'm a very happy camper.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: J-Carr on August 02, 2010, 04:28:26 PM
One disadvantage to the new (09) frames is that it makes it tough for the inseam challenged to ride one comfortably.  My wife is 5'2".  She'd love a Touring Bike with ABS, and preferes the Road Glide.  However, her only option to get one to fit her right is an '08.  My guess is if that Ultra RG fit her better we'd be in the market.  Since it doesn't, and an '08 would require a fortune to "ultra-ize" she'll keep the 'ol Street Bob.

So I guess I'm biased that for us the new frame was a change as Scott and Don have indicated, rather then an improvement.  And I've yet to have anyone loose me on a '09 at anything under ludicris speed.  Since I don't ride at that speed it's all good.

Ride Safe,
JC
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 02, 2010, 04:46:44 PM
One disadvantage to the new (09) frames is that it makes it tough for the inseam challenged to ride one comfortably.  My wife is 5'2".  She'd love a Touring Bike with ABS, and preferes the Road Glide.  However, her only option to get one to fit her right is an '08.  My guess is if that Ultra RG fit her better we'd be in the market.  Since it doesn't, and an '08 would require a fortune to "ultra-ize" she'll keep the 'ol Street Bob.

So I guess I'm biased that for us the new frame was a change as Scott and Don have indicated, rather then an improvement.  And I've yet to have anyone loose me on a '09 at anything under ludicris speed.  Since I don't ride at that speed it's all good.

Ride Safe,
JC

New Softails can have ABS.  So she's got options.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Billy on August 02, 2010, 05:04:48 PM
I think only the deluxe and Heritage can have ABS not the Fatboy or the rest of the Softails. Billy
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grc on August 02, 2010, 05:15:59 PM
I think only the deluxe and Heritage can have ABS not the Fatboy or the rest of the Softails. Billy

According to the spec pages on the Harley site, the only Softy that can't be ordered with ABS (as part of a Security Package) is the Cross Bones.


Jerry
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Billy on August 02, 2010, 07:50:23 PM
Thanks YOu are right I looked the first day and I thought that it was only 2 bikes.  Glad that it is most of the softails. My wife is looking at the Deluxe. Billy
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on August 02, 2010, 08:57:12 PM
Like this?


 ;D

SBB



click on pictures to enlarge
Exactly like that!!!


Now the only thing better than 4 touring bikes would be having 5 touring bikes.
I know that having 4 bikes for 2 riders is probably enough, but I think I can see
room for a 5th bike in there. Maybe a new 11 Street Glide? Kryptonite maybe?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Banana man on August 02, 2010, 09:04:16 PM

Thanks

There's the coated Fatcat on the shelf on the left.
The stock 01 Sharkfin set hanging from the ceiling above the 03.
The stock 09 SEUC system above the 09.
And the Fatcat ghost pipe hanging above the 05 finishes the decor.

Hanging all those pipes was exhausting!

 ;D                                              

SBB
You should be an interior decorator. I like your style!!!! :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: J-Carr on August 03, 2010, 12:29:00 PM
New Softails can have ABS.  So she's got options.
True, but then again, we both think the Dyna platform is a much better bike than a Softail.  Maybe not as cool looking depending on your taste, but still a better riding and handling bike.  A more likely option based on what she's seen that she likes would be to get a V-Rod with ABS and add the RG fairing kit with all the electronics and some better suspension parts.

Ride Safe,
JC
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 03, 2010, 02:29:06 PM
True, but then again, we both think the Dyna platform is a much better bike than a Softail.  Maybe not as cool looking depending on your taste, but still a better riding and handling bike.  A more likely option based on what she's seen that she likes would be to get a V-Rod with ABS and add the RG fairing kit with all the electronics and some better suspension parts.

Ride Safe,
JC

For that expense and effort might be worth waiting until the 2012 EPA regs kick in and see if the 2013 models see the 110th Anniversary models finally bring in water cooling.  Then just get a Road Glide.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on August 03, 2010, 02:31:05 PM
For that expense and effort might be worth waiting until the 2012 EPA regs kick in and see if the 2013 models see the 110th Anniversary models finally bring in water cooling.  Then just get a Road Glide.

But then you will have to wait another 2 years(at least) until the facotry works out all the bugs with the new water cooling setup.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on August 03, 2010, 03:35:37 PM
They'll never work out the bugs...just leave them for us to figure out!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 03, 2010, 03:49:37 PM
But then you will have to wait another 2 years(at least) until the facotry works out all the bugs with the new water cooling setup.

For whatever reason it seems HD is actually (and finally) making strides to catch up (some) on management and control systems.  TBW, the new HDLAN system, ABS across more of the fleet and who knows what will come from next.  All these systems will start in one family and propagate across the fleet.

Sounds like a good thing.  A long reach toward modernity from a company that thinks its first attempt at engine monitoring in the 21st century using o2 sensors that automotive mftrs had phased out by 1990 or so deserved acclaim. 

From most companies it might be a good thing.  With Harley it will be a necessary evil.  Because they've proved they can almost never get new roll outs done right or easily or seamlessly.

So for the next ten years as they continue this effort to catch up, so they can meet current and future mandates, I honestly don't expect there will be a time when some part of the fleet and some cadre of owners won't be experiencing the "next" two year cycle of "getting the bugs out" of something. 

I hope I'm wrong.  But I'm not optimistic about the broad sweep of the ownership experience for the next decade.  Expect it be merely a continuation of the decline in overall QC, the hassles as they evade responsibility and the difficulties concomitant to their trying to catch up that we've already seen begin over the last half decade.

They've learned how to get away with cutting corners.  They've built that in to their culture and seemingly accepted it as their ethos.  God help them (because owners finally won't) when that eventually bites them in the ass.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on August 03, 2010, 06:07:49 PM
I hear what you're saying, 2Ln, but they've had the twin since ot-3 and it's still leaks oil, runs hot and doesn't produce the power it should.  You really think that in 2 years they can produce a decent water buffalo??????
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: michaelbmenaker on August 03, 2010, 06:14:23 PM
I hear what you're saying, 2Ln, but they've had the twin since ot-3 and it's still leaks oil, runs hot and doesn't produce the power it should.  You really think that in 2 years they can produce a decent water buffalo??????

My '02 SERK never leaked. My '10 SESG doesn't leak. Blame the EPA, not the MOCO for lean bikes, with CATs that run hot. That's why we all dyno tune our bikes, remove the CATs, etc. As for power, no doubt the 110 is the engine that should be the base engine for the full line, but that's more economics than engineering.

Anyone who buys an air cooled, push rod, 2-valve V-Twin knows they're not getting a Hayabusa, right?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on August 03, 2010, 06:32:26 PM
Other brands out there have not had any oil leaks and run MUCH cooler with their air cooled V twins when they were producing them years ago.  Those other brands have since moved on to better technology.  You're right, I expect it to run hot and only have 60hp to the rear wheel for $37 large.  Especially since they've been producing essentially the same damn motor for over 100 years.  yep. :o

No I'm not expecting a 'busa, but there's been enough people on this site who've properly rebuilt their bikes.  They've then ridden the chit out of them and not had any failures.  They now run cooler, produce more power AND get better fuel mileage.  Seems to me that would be better for the environment- using less fuel.  Am I missing something???? :confused5:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: michaelbmenaker on August 03, 2010, 06:47:08 PM
Other brands out there have not had any oil leaks and run MUCH cooler with their air cooled V twins when they were producing them years ago.  Those other brands have since moved on to better technology.  You're right, I expect it to run hot and only have 60hp to the rear wheel for $37 large.  Especially since they've been producing essentially the same damn motor for over 100 years.  yep. :o

No I'm not expecting a 'busa, but there's been enough people on this site who've properly rebuilt their bikes.  They've then ridden the chit out of them and not had any failures.  They now run cooler, produce more power AND get better fuel mileage.  Seems to me that would be better for the environment- using less fuel.  Am I missing something???? :confused5:

I'm not looking to pick a fight, but come on...
What V (or vertical) twins are you remembering? Surely not Indians. And the problems with Vincents, Triumphs, BSAs, Nortons, etc are the stuff of legends. There are guys on this forum who have spent a fortune having their motors rebuilt. And hand-built hot rods will always out perform a factory production motor. Sadly, they're not EPA legal. If if the MOCO could build similar motors at a reasonable price, they would not be legal.

HD motors are a compromise between heritage, style and function. To think that a push rod, two-valve, air-cooled V-Twin can compete with more contemporary designs is wishful thinking. The options are out there. If I wanted a Gold Wing, I'd have one. To each his own, right?

Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on August 03, 2010, 07:01:09 PM
I did not see it posted, but the 2011's can be ordered with stock 96 engine, 103 engine or 110 engine from the factory.

of course that is for the reg kine of bikes.

it would be an interesting order to place for a CVO bike to have a 103.

I wonder if they could/would do that?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on August 03, 2010, 08:23:53 PM
I did not see it posted, but the 2011's can be ordered with stock 96 engine, 103 engine or 110 engine from the factory.

of course that is for the reg kine of bikes.

it would be an interesting order to place for a CVO bike to have a 103.

I wonder if they could/would do that?

So you can order a regular bike with a 110" motor???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on August 03, 2010, 08:29:30 PM
So you can order a regular bike with a 110" motor???

I thought I had read where you would be able to choose which color engine you wanted. It would make sense that it is not necessarily the color as the size.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on August 03, 2010, 08:46:35 PM
I thought I had read where you would be able to choose which color engine you wanted. It would make sense that it is not necessarily the color as the size.
I was told you could order any motor with your bike.......
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: dartman on August 03, 2010, 09:29:09 PM

Select Touring models gain power and technology with the new Harley-Davidson PowerPak, which bundles the Twin Cam 103™ engine with ABS (anti-lock braking system) and the H-D® Smart Security System. PowerPak is a standard feature on the 2011 Road King® Classic, Electra Glide® Ultra Limited, and Road Glide® Ultra models, and will be available as a factory-installed option on the 2011 Street Glide® and Road Glide® Custom models.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on August 03, 2010, 09:47:01 PM
This sounded interesting. Seems now you can order the bike with a different engine finish. ???




I was told you could order any motor with your bike.......


I thought I'd seen this before:

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161073;image)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on August 03, 2010, 09:53:44 PM
Here's a better shot:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 03, 2010, 09:56:36 PM
Here's a better shot:
Thank you.... I couldn't find my magnifying glass. ;) :D

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 03, 2010, 10:00:26 PM
Here's a better shot:
AJ the way I read that though is they've just added the black engine and gloss black covers to the "Kryptonite" bike and it's not an option on the other colors/models. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: michaelbmenaker on August 03, 2010, 10:14:57 PM
AJ the way I read that though is they've just added the black engine and gloss black covers to the "Kryptonite" bike and it's not an option on the other colors/models. :nixweiss:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

I am certain you are correct, sir.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 03, 2010, 10:52:30 PM
I was told you could order any motor with your bike.......

I was told you could order any motor with your bike.......

I think Harley worded things poorly to lead your thoughts in that direction, but it certainly isn't what they are offering.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on August 03, 2010, 11:25:08 PM
I think Harley worded things poorly to lead your thoughts in that direction, but it certainly isn't what they are offering.


Are you telling me that you cannot order a standard Ultra with either a 96", 103" or a 110" motor?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 03, 2010, 11:53:33 PM


Are you telling me that you cannot order a standard Ultra with either a 96", 103" or a 110" motor?

That is precisely what I am saying.

You can get a standard Ultra with a 96", an Ultra Limited with a 103", and a SEUC with a 110", just like before.  I haven't seen anything to indicate anything different.  If you look at the specifications for the standard Ultra, the Powerpak option (103") is N/A and I guess they didn't even think that there was a need to mention the 110" as an option, since it isn't.

The Road Glide Custom and Street Glide have a 96" standard and have the 103" as an available option.  The Road King Classic and Road Glide Ultra have a 103" as the only option.  Both trike models have just the 103" available.  Anyway, you need to look at the each bike individually to see what is and isn't available this year.  I didn't really look much at anything but the touring lineup.

I did not notice any bikes other than the CVO's available with the 110" as a factory option.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on August 04, 2010, 12:05:30 AM
That is precisely what I am saying.

You can get a standard Ultra with a 96", an Ultra Limited with a 103", and a SEUC with a 110", just like before.  I haven't seen anything to indicate anything different.  If you look at the specifications for the standard Ultra, the Powerpak option (103") is N/A and I guess they didn't even think that there was a need to mention the 110" as an option, since it isn't.

The Road Glide Custom and Street Glide have a 96" standard and have the 103" as an available option.  The Road King Classic and Road Glide Ultra have a 103" as the only option.  Both trike models have just the 103" available.  Anyway, you need to look at the each bike individually to see what is and isn't available this year.  I didn't really look much at anything but the touring lineup.

I did not notice any bikes other than the CVO's available with the 110" as a factory option.

You may be right, but that is in direct conflict of what I was told.
With the new "line" a bike could be ordered with the power train of your chosing.

I will have to investigate that further
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 04, 2010, 12:13:37 AM

You may be right, but that is in direct conflict of what I was told.
With the new "line" a bike could be ordered with the power train of your chosing.

I will have to investigate that further

I don't know who told you that, but it's not sounding accurate to me.  Obviously, I could be completely wrong, but I just don't think I am in this case.  I'll be curious to hear what you find out.  I guess the easy way would be to try to order a standard Ultra with a 110" at the dealer, but I'm guessing they'll be aiming you toward a 96" and the upgrade kit to get you there.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Keats on August 04, 2010, 08:49:12 AM
I did not mis understand what the dealer told me, but maybe they did not speak exactly......

What they told me is that you could order the power train you want in the bike you wanted.

That is not the same as buying an Ultra with 3 different power trains, standard, limited or CVO. the only difference from last year is adding the 103 to the ultra line.

That could be what lead to the confusion

I will find out..........
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on August 04, 2010, 08:58:05 AM


the only difference from last year is adding the 103 to the ultra line.



But they haven't done that, have they?  The way I read it, the Ultra (not the Limited, not the CVO) is still a 96".  The Limited has the 103, but it had that last year too.

Jim
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 04, 2010, 09:12:21 AM
But they haven't done that, have they?  The way I read it, the Ultra (not the Limited, not the CVO) is still a 96".  The Limited has the 103, but it had that last year too.

Jim

You are correct. However, Keats may be talking about the Road Glide Ultra.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Dan_Lockwood on August 04, 2010, 01:31:05 PM
Sorry if I missed this in an earlier post, but while into the dealership on Saturday looking at the new Ultra Road Glide 96", I had that discussion with my salesman.

On non Limited or CVO touring bikes, you can order the Power Pak option that sells for $1,995.00 and that includes a 103" motor, ABS and the remote sercurity system.

This 103" is NOT a CVO motor, but the stock 103" that is used in the Limited, the Trike and the Police bikes.

I'm not sure if the Power Pak option is worth the $2k or not, but that's what you get for the $$$$'s.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on August 04, 2010, 08:31:45 PM

This 103" is NOT a CVO motor, but the stock 103" that is used in the Limited, the Trike and the Police bikes.

.
And is this better or worse?  :nixweiss: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 04, 2010, 08:45:15 PM
Sorry if I missed this in an earlier post, but while into the dealership on Saturday looking at the new Ultra Road Glide 96", I had that discussion with my salesman.

On non Limited or CVO touring bikes, you can order the Power Pak option that sells for $1,995.00 and that includes a 103" motor, ABS and the remote sercurity system.

This 103" is NOT a CVO motor, but the stock 103" that is used in the Limited, the Trike and the Police bikes.

I'm not sure if the Power Pak option is worth the $2k or not, but that's what you get for the $$$$'s.

and the Power Pak option is not available on all models...only the few that I listed.  They tell you in the specs for each bike if the option is available and if it is, the price is $1995.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kb on August 04, 2010, 09:31:37 PM
And is this better or worse?  :nixweiss: spyder
What is the difference? :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on August 04, 2010, 09:34:29 PM
What is the difference? :nixweiss:
Kind of a 'mystery'.  :-X spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 04, 2010, 10:02:54 PM
Sorry if I missed this in an earlier post, but while into the dealership on Saturday looking at the new Ultra Road Glide 96", I had that discussion with my salesman.

On non Limited or CVO touring bikes, you can order the Power Pak option that sells for $1,995.00 and that includes a 103" motor, ABS and the remote sercurity system.

This 103" is NOT a CVO motor, but the stock 103" that is used in the Limited, the Trike and the Police bikes.

I'm not sure if the Power Pak option is worth the $2k or not, but that's what you get for the $$$$'s.

They can't offer the 103 power pak option on the Ultra or they would hurt sells on the Limited.

Two tone Ultra 21,999               Limited 23,699
power pak        1,995
Total              23,994

Vivid Black       22,994   deduct $1000 for vivid black

JMO

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on August 05, 2010, 02:03:14 AM
on the European market H-D doesn't offer the Ultra at all this year. I suppose they want to get rid of some overstocked Limiteds before discontinuing this model. Doesn't make sense anymore.

Our dealer got just one black/blue Limited early last year - it's the only bike not sold until now btw. Will get a paint job this winter if they don't get it off the floor till then ...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Eqcons on August 05, 2010, 04:52:46 AM
on the European market H-D doesn't offer the Ultra at all this year. I suppose they want to get rid of some overstocked Limiteds before discontinuing this model. Doesn't make sense anymore.

Our dealer got just one black/blue Limited early last year - it's the only bike not sold until now btw. Will get a paint job this winter if they don't get it off the floor till then ...

It makes sense in that nobody is going to buy a 96" Ultra when the Limited is a 103".  The Limited is a great touring bike, by the way - hired one for my vacation, and did 4073 trouble free miles (6555km) in two weeks. I'd be happy with one.  (Oh, and the heated grips on them are 100000000 times better than the crap on our CVOs).
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tazmun on August 05, 2010, 08:48:31 AM
They can't offer the 103 power pak option on the Ultra or they would hurt sells on the Limited.

Two tone Ultra 21,999               Limited 23,699
power pak        1,995
Total              23,994

Vivid Black       22,994   deduct $1000 for vivid black

JMO

JW
And don't forget the Limited has chrome wheels, great gages and a luggage rack!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 05, 2010, 09:24:28 AM
And don't forget the Limited has chrome wheels, great gages and a luggage rack!

I'm not putting the Limited down! I think they are a good package. How often do you think the dealers will have a customer point at a bike and say "I want that exact bike but with the 103 motor". HD should have made the move to the 103 motor for their scooters. Going to have a lot of 96's sitting around. JMO.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: HOGMIKE on August 05, 2010, 10:36:54 AM
I'm not putting the Limited down! I think they are a good package. How often do you think the dealers will have a customer point at a bike and say "I want that exact bike but with the 103 motor". HD should have made the move to the 103 motor for their scooters. Going to have a lot of 96's sitting around. JMO.

JW

I've had both the 96 and the new 103. IMHO, there's not much difference between the two power-wise.
What you are buying is the "bling" kinda a poor man's CVO
The Limited is a nice bike, suits my needs and I'll keep it for awhile.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 05, 2010, 10:47:54 AM
I've had both the 96 and the new 103. IMHO, there's not much difference between the two power-wise.
What you are buying is the "bling" kinda a poor man's CVO
The Limited is a nice bike, suits my needs and I'll keep it for awhile.

I cannot speak for the difference between a factory 96 and factory 103, however, I have upgraded two 96 ci to 103's and the power difference (with a tuner) is night and day.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: arcticdude on August 05, 2010, 10:56:27 AM
10% more torque at 3500.  So you get 10 lb/ft with a 96 and 11 lb/ft with a 103! :huepfenjump3:  Ethyl, you'd better hang on with dis here new motor!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 05, 2010, 06:34:52 PM
10% more torque at 3500.  So you get 10 lb/ft with a 96 and 11 lb/ft with a 103! :huepfenjump3:  Ethyl, you'd better hang on with dis here new motor!

Say what you want, but I stand by what I said. Print outs are not everything. Drive-a-bility is where its at.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: michaelbmenaker on August 05, 2010, 07:12:47 PM
Say what you want, but I stand by what I said. Print outs are not everything. Drive-a-bility is where its at.

+1... a good tune is about more than numbers. Quality of power is more important on the road the quantity of power.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 07, 2010, 11:54:13 PM
I was in Sturgis today and got some shots of the new models. The brown SERG was amazing in person and stole the show.
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Post by: grandpadoc on August 07, 2010, 11:55:41 PM
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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 07, 2010, 11:56:21 PM
...shot of the Garmin
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Post by: grandpadoc on August 07, 2010, 11:57:05 PM
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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 07, 2010, 11:59:43 PM
...the I-Pod is operated from the handle bar controls and stored and locked up in the bag.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 12:04:51 AM
It has a new removable wind diverter.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 12:06:29 AM
I'll post all the other colors and models tomorrow. Good night all.  Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Grizzly on August 08, 2010, 08:24:15 AM
Thanks for the very clear & detailed photos.

The '11 SERG looks amazing!  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: SBB on August 08, 2010, 08:25:18 AM
It has a new fork mounted and removable wind diverter.

Now that's interesting?

 :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss: :nixweiss:

SBB
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 08:57:10 AM
Thanks for the great photos. My dealer told me the Frosted Ivory RG looks yellow, and it does appear yellow on the HD website. In your photos the color appears more like a white than a yellow color. I'm quite partial to white, and I really like the Vintage Gold bottom, so please give me your take on the frosted ivory. Creamy white-ish or creamy yellow-ish? Also, what did you think of the RG CVO in Rio Red?    

I'd call it more of a cream, more yellow than white, but beautiful (imo). Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 08, 2010, 09:24:26 AM
Thanks for the detailed photos.....hear that boys???......"stole the show"..... Can't wait to see the slate!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: guppytrash on August 08, 2010, 10:18:23 AM
That would look good with a brown distressed leather seat/backrests. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 08, 2010, 11:18:50 AM
I'd call it more of a cream, more yellow than white, but beautiful (imo). Doc


So it's not a Turd after all :2vrolijk_21: ?.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 08, 2010, 01:37:35 PM
..........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXv2eYT0LLk
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 08, 2010, 01:39:16 PM
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Y-bl0gCnbg
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: hard10 on August 08, 2010, 05:59:35 PM
...hear that boys???......"stole the show"...


So, the "Cremebrulee" stole the show! I told y'all I liked that bike. Now I can't wait to see it in person! Wonder how many of this color they're going to make?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 08, 2010, 06:12:30 PM

So, the "Cremebrulee" stole the show! I told y'all I liked that bike. Now I can't wait to see it in person! Wonder how many of this color they're going to make?


If it turns out to be popular?  16,242,125,152,248; unless they think than sell more.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 08, 2010, 06:57:54 PM
I saw the black and gray SERGU today at #1 Harley Davidson in State College, PA.  The bike is so dull looking, you have to look closely to even notice it's a CVO.  It wasn't just me, who should have recognized what it was immediately, but several people over a few minutes that the salesman kept taking to this bike.  Each one was surprised when he told them it was a CVO and took a closer look to see.  Now that Creme colored one with pics above is really growing on me though.  I really like the looks of that one and I'm anxious to see one of those in person.

By the way, I'll never venture back into that dealership again.  I was so disappointed.  I've heard so much about how great this place was, with all of the different buildings on the property and their great selection of everything.  They had maybe a dozen bikes on the floor at most, and there is no room for more of them.  The motorclothes area was small and lacking inventory.  I have no idea what's in all of the sheds and barns or whatever all of these extra wooden buildings are on the property.  I asked some other customers outside, and none of them knew what they were for either.  To top off my experience, the salesman started arguing with me, telling me that the Road Glide was the best handling Harley by leaps and bounds...and when I told him that was a matter of opinion, he told me that in every category the Road Glide is superior to the Ultra.  Then he told me that Harley is making the Road Glide Ultras available because there are so many people with Gold Wings that want to buy a Harley, but won't buy one unless they can get it with a fixed fairing, since they are so superior.  Eventually, I just told him he was a jacka$$ and that I wouldn't even spend money on a t-shirt there if they had some available, and I walked out.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 07:59:10 PM
Here are somemore pics
Title: Re: 2011
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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 08:08:22 PM
Sorry last one  :(
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 08, 2010, 08:10:26 PM
Lou how would you compare this bike (color) to yours??

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161961;image)

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161962;image)

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 08, 2010, 08:30:30 PM
No matter how well the looks of the rest of the bike are received (and I like it except when viewed rear-on) the lowers need some help.  Whomever did "styling" wimped out.  That's a big swath of black that totally interrupts the lines otherwise flowing from from to rear.  They really need to bring the red through the lowers.

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161961;image)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 08, 2010, 09:15:57 PM
A Dealer that attended the meeting said the B/O SESG2 had some peach in her. This is the 1st pic that shows what he was talking about. Have to see her in person, as always.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 09:21:50 PM
Lou how would you compare this bike (color) to yours??

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161961;image)

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161962;image)

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:

Nice color, real close to the 00, but I am still partial to the 2000 graphics.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 09:26:21 PM
Nice color but I am still partial to the 2000 graphics.

How's this  ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 09:26:58 PM
 :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 110tHunDer on August 08, 2010, 09:27:53 PM
No matter how well the looks of the rest of the bike are received (and I like it except when viewed rear-on) the lowers need some help.  Whomever did "styling" wimped out.  That's a big swath of black that totally interrupts the lines otherwise flowing from from to rear.  They really need to bring the red through the lowers.

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161961;image)

Holy crap!  I was just thinking the same thing as I looked at Doc's photos.  But really, they've wussed out on any attempt at styling on the lowers since the '04 SEEGs when they carried the tri-color theme through to them.  Not sure what's up with that. :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 09:28:30 PM
No matter how well the looks of the rest of the bike are received (and I like it except when viewed rear-on) the lowers need some help.  Whomever did "styling" wimped out.  That's a big swath of black that totally interrupts the lines otherwise flowing from from to rear.  They really need to bring the red through the lowers.

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161961;image)

...and no speakers in the lowers  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 08, 2010, 09:30:24 PM
Nice color but I am still partial to the 2000 graphics.
I can understand that... nothing like having an Eagle on a Screamin' Eagle. :2vrolijk_21:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Air-Cooled on August 08, 2010, 09:36:31 PM
No matter how well the looks of the rest of the bike are received (and I like it except when viewed rear-on) the lowers need some help.  Whomever did "styling" wimped out.  That's a big swath of black that totally interrupts the lines otherwise flowing from from to rear.  They really need to bring the red through the lowers.

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=161961;image)

I think the bike, in this color is the best of the whole CVO lineup this year.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: martys on August 08, 2010, 09:36:56 PM
I can understand that... nothing like having an Eagle on a Screamin' Eagle. :2vrolijk_21:

 :pumpkin:
Ride Safe,
Fired00d
 :fireman:
I agree DOOD   :nixweiss: I think they missed the boat  :confused5:  not putting the eagle on the faring
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 08, 2010, 09:40:46 PM
I think the bike, in this color is the best of the whole CVO lineup this year.

...really pops in the sun doesn't it  :2vrolijk_21:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 12:15:09 AM
Grandpadoc

Any more pics of the B/O SESG? Would like to see that color in other light.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 09, 2010, 08:19:25 AM
Grandpadoc

Any more pics of the B/O SESG? Would like to see that color in other light.
 
JW

Didn't find one in the sun, I guess this means its back to Sturgis again today. Hey I'll do anyting for this site.  ;)  Doc
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: napalm on August 09, 2010, 08:40:35 AM
How's this  ;D

Now this is a great start for a 2012 CVO....

napalm
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: acevtwin on August 09, 2010, 09:44:04 AM
It looks like us 04' SEEG owners are safe for another year as the only models with 2 tone lowers!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wenchal on August 09, 2010, 10:50:40 AM
Hey, 08 got 'em too!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: kraut on August 09, 2010, 02:00:01 PM
and my 09 has two-tone lowers as well: twilight-blue with dirty-brown spots, interchanging depending on road conditions  ;D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 09, 2010, 07:05:10 PM
Grandpadoc

Any more pics of the B/O SESG? Would like to see that color in other light.

JW

Here are two more shots, but in the shade.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 09, 2010, 07:11:15 PM
...whoops, not sure I got the right color. PM me your address and I'll send you the brochure of all the new CVO's.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 09, 2010, 07:16:41 PM
The wind diverter actually snaps on the crash bars.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 09, 2010, 07:17:27 PM
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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 2010SSRS on August 09, 2010, 07:32:45 PM
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please post more of the black/orange street glide!  or message me some please.............
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: tjstreetglide on August 09, 2010, 07:33:16 PM
Looking at the Mirrors. are they new?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 09, 2010, 07:41:45 PM
please post more of the black/orange street glide!  or message me some please.............

Here are the other two I have.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: grandpadoc on August 09, 2010, 07:42:52 PM
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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Gank on August 09, 2010, 07:48:29 PM
so there is a Screaming eagle on it, its just... Stealth...ummm Stealth eagles... hope that works on Radar :D
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 08:29:19 PM
Came across an Black / Orange SESG2 today. Couple of pics from my Blackberry. The haze is due to the humidity here today.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 08:29:52 PM
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Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 08:31:46 PM
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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 08:32:17 PM
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They rolled her outside for these pics
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 08:33:14 PM
Indoors
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 08:35:35 PM
Last one for you Black & Orange junkies! LOL!

I had to let the bike sit for 5 minutes in the heat for the condensation from the AC to evaporate before taking these shots. 92 degrees / 90% humidity.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 08:39:06 PM
My perference!

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 110tHunDer on August 09, 2010, 09:22:04 PM
Came across an Black / Orange SESG2 today. Couple of pics from my Blackberry. The haze is due to the humidity here today.

JW

My, my, my ...  :-*

Focus, Brian, focus ...

I love my SEEG, I love my SEEG, I love my SEEG ...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 09, 2010, 09:26:18 PM
My, my, my ...  :-*

Focus, Brian, focus ...

I love my SEEG, I love my SEEG, I love my SEEG ...


She is a looker Brian! AND SHE'S RIGHT IN YOU BACK YARD!

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 110tHunDer on August 09, 2010, 09:28:35 PM
She is a looker Brian! AND SHE'S RIGHT IN YOU BACK YARD!

JW

More yours than mine!  (I recognize the parking lot. ;) :P 8))
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: North Star on August 09, 2010, 10:43:25 PM
Damn, that does look nice....even the green looks nice, and I usually don't like green.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 09, 2010, 11:54:17 PM
Silver legs instead of chrome? 

Really?   

:puke:

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=162118;image)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 10, 2010, 12:08:18 AM
Silver legs instead of chrome? 

Really?   

:puke:

(http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=48421.0;attach=162118;image)

Sure would look a lot better with complete chrome legs.  I think that's something I pointed out back when all we had to look at was the Green Weenie.  Can you say "design flaw"?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 10, 2010, 12:12:57 AM
Sure would look a lot better with complete chrome legs.  I think that's something I pointed out back when all we had to look at was the Green Weenie.  Can you say "design flaw"?

I had completely missed that so far.  Chrome light brackets just above it.  Chrome wheel right next to it. Chrome pouring down the side of the bike.  And ugly silver legs...  What a cucking frock.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 10, 2010, 12:14:53 AM
I had completely missed that so far.  Chrome light brackets just above it.  Chrome wheel right next to it. Chrome pouring down the side of the bike.  And ugly silver legs...  What a cucking frock.


Is that wheel chrome? 

Or is it ugly too? 

Probably need legs, wheels and calipers to finish it off.  I really hadn't look close before....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 10, 2010, 12:21:19 AM
Nah  There chrome. It was so humid out that when the cold bike went out to the heat, she started sweating just like us. The salesman did not wipe her off. I just wasn't going to stand out in the heat any longer waiting for it all to evaporate. I gave it about 5 minutes, took some pics and left.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 10, 2010, 12:33:19 AM
Here's the Black Diamond Crimson Tag. Painted cow bells / chrome lowers.

Sure would look a lot better with complete chrome legs.  I think that's something I pointed out back when all we had to look at was the Green Weenie.  Can you say "design flaw"?

One man's design flaw is another man's idea of design genius. Be boring if we all liked and had the same thing.


Is that wheel chrome? 

Or is it ugly too? 

Probably need legs, wheels and calipers to finish it off.  I really hadn't look close before....

Just bad pics. I should have waited longer but I knew this one is not for me. Just grabbed some pics for CVOH members. I may be that way tomorrow and try for better indoor pics if anyone is interested.

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on August 10, 2010, 07:25:12 AM
So the lower legs are chromed.  Good, that means that you won't have to spend but $4500 to get it up to where it should have been from the 'git-go'.  har.  :drink: spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on August 10, 2010, 09:15:55 AM
I've seen the orange/black in person and sat on it.  In my opinion, it's an overprices bar-hopping bike.  Enough said...
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: RedDevil on August 10, 2010, 09:31:47 AM
I've seen the orange/black in person and sat on it.  In my opinion, it's an overprices bar-hopping bike.  Enough said...

Yeah, if the bars are 130 miles apart.  :confused5: I have the 2010 SESG, and trust me, she ain't no bar hopper.  ;D  (But she can be if I did that sort of thing.) 

:devil:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on August 10, 2010, 10:12:36 AM
I've seen the orange/black in person and sat on it.  In my opinion, it's an overprices bar-hopping bike.  Enough said...

I've never heard the SESG referred to as a bar hopper!!  Of course, mine goes to bars :) but next week I will jump on it and do a 550 mile ride in 1 day (IN COMFORT)--you ain't doin that on a bar hopper!!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on August 10, 2010, 10:16:42 AM
What I meant was that Harley seemed to focus more on the 'bling" aspect instead of improving the bikes mechanically or comfort wise...and the prices keep getting higher and higher.  I guess they will continue to increase prices as long as they sell them all...and I'm sure they will.  Although I have seen a few of the '10 SE's still available.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 2010SSRS on August 10, 2010, 08:12:43 PM
thanks for all the black/orange pics fellas..........really appreciate it.  counting the days!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: LoneCustom on August 11, 2010, 03:25:01 PM

By the way, I'll never venture back into that dealership again.  I was so disappointed.  I've heard so much about how great this place was, with all of the different buildings on the property and their great selection of everything.  They had maybe a dozen bikes on the floor at most, and there is no room for more of them.  The motorclothes area was small and lacking inventory.  I have no idea what's in all of the sheds and barns or whatever all of these extra wooden buildings are on the property.  I asked some other customers outside, and none of them knew what they were for either.  To top off my experience, the salesman started arguing with me, telling me that the Road Glide was the best handling Harley by leaps and bounds...and when I told him that was a matter of opinion, he told me that in every category the Road Glide is superior to the Ultra.  Then he told me that Harley is making the Road Glide Ultras available because there are so many people with Gold Wings that want to buy a Harley, but won't buy one unless they can get it with a fixed fairing, since they are so superior.  Eventually, I just told him he was a jacka$$ and that I wouldn't even spend money on a t-shirt there if they had some available, and I walked out.

Interesting - I'm glad I read your post, as I passed by this dealership last summer, but didn't have time to stop.  It sure looks impressive, with all of the banners and flags, as well as the many outbuildings.  (Also oddly enough, I was headed to York, but did not have the chance to take the H-D factory tour.  I did find a great restaurant in York however: the Roosevelt Tavern.  Great food, friendly staff and the prices were reasonable.  Dang, it sounds like it is time for a road trip!)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 11, 2010, 08:18:32 PM
Would someone buy one of these damn things already??? It's killing me!  :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: mjb765 on August 11, 2010, 08:23:18 PM
Would someone buy one of these damn things already??? It's killing me!  :P

I tried.....I didn't have enough lube with me when I heard what my '10 was worth :huepfenlol2:....so no sale.....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Robmay on August 12, 2010, 06:38:23 AM
I tried.....I didn't have enough lube with me when I heard what my '10 was worth :huepfenlol2:....so no sale.....

I hear ya. I am teetering right now as I have my bike pretty close to perfect for me. Why start over?  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: wiseasp on August 12, 2010, 07:57:23 AM
I have a deposit on a green one and a orange one.  The green one will not be in until mid September, but i should be able to pick the orange one up today or tomorrow. 

I like both, but I am afraid the green one looks too much like a jap bike color.  For example....
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: miker on August 12, 2010, 07:59:43 AM
I hear ya. I am teetering right now as I have my bike pretty close to perfect for me. Why start over?  :nixweiss:

Just answered the question bruddaRob...I like the Big Ol Bat Bike (BOBB) you gots...

Other than you like RG fairings better :P
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Sierramadre on August 12, 2010, 08:31:57 AM

Starting over is half the fun.  Wreaks havoc on your pocketbook but we love it.
I hear ya. I am teetering right now as I have my bike pretty close to perfect for me. Why start over?  :nixweiss:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: fastbikedroid on August 13, 2010, 09:54:03 AM
I've seen the orange/black in person and sat on it.  In my opinion, it's an overprices bar-hopping bike.  Enough said...

Why?  The color, that it's a street glide, that it's not yellow, ???
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: yellowhog on August 13, 2010, 01:17:28 PM
There just seems to be too much bling on it.  Those giant speakers in the lowers for one.  I don't like the way they did the fuel cap, putting it on the tank surface.  Looks as though it will be hard not to put some scratches on the tank, or at least spill fuel.  The color wasn't bad, except it doesn't "pop"...maybe too much black on it for me.  If I'm going to spend $32,000 +, the color had better pop.  Harley's not exactly famous for their color choices anyway.  The fairing mounted mirrors just aren't as functional as the stem mirrors (I've had both), plus the stem mirrors add some chrome and some form too.  And they take away from the beauty of the color matched inner fairing.

To sum it up, for the price, it just seems to me like Harley went more for the flash aspect, rather than improving on the function.  But that's just my opinion, I'm not trying to offend anyone.  If everyone had the same bike, it'd be pretty boring. 
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 2010SSRS on August 15, 2010, 10:50:53 AM
I have a deposit on a green one and a orange one.  The green one will not be in until mid September, but i should be able to pick the orange one up today or tomorrow.  

I like both, but I am afraid the green one looks too much like a jap bike color.  For example....

picked up our orange SESG yesterday............gorgeous!  way better in person.  the flake in all 3 colors, the subtle purple pinstripe and the chrome wheels combined with motor covers REALLY make this thing pop!  we were gonna go with green........SO glad we didn't.  SE bigs are about the pop IMO.  ;)

i'm gonna take some good pics and post them in the 2010/2011 SESG2 section.
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: 1abastarsmda on August 15, 2010, 10:57:58 AM
picked up our orange SESG yesterday............gorgeous!  way better in person.  the flake in all 3 colors, the subtle purple pinstripe and the chrome wheels combined with motor covers  REALLY make this thing pop!  we were gonna go with green........SO glad we didn't.  SE bigs are about the pop IMO.  ;)

i'm gonna take some good pics and post them in the 2010/2011 SESG2 section.

What are motor covers?
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on August 15, 2010, 02:18:57 PM
What are motor covers?
CHROME, my Man, CHROME!!!! :coolblue: har.  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 29, 2010, 12:13:14 PM
As long as the next bike has a fairing, and the candy brandy gets motor work my job will be done. :sneaky: :wiseguy: :evilgrin: :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:
........
Job complete... see here - My new scooter - Dood's "job" is half way done (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=53413.0)

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 29, 2010, 12:24:08 PM
Job complete... see here - My new scooter - Dood's "job" is half way done (http://www.cvoharley.com/smf/index.php?topic=53413.0)

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Your evil know no bounds!

The Candy is still as stock, kinda. Give a brother a break!

JW
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 29, 2010, 12:25:58 PM
Your evil know no bounds!

The Candy is still as stock, kinda. Give a brother a break!

JW
Did you mean to say "I still have the stock parts I've taken off"?? :confused5: :drink: :huepfenlol2:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Black Diamond on August 29, 2010, 12:26:50 PM
Did you mean to say "I still have the stock parts I've taken off"?? :confused5: :drink: :huepfenlol2:

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Evil Bastage!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 29, 2010, 12:27:48 PM
Evil Bastage!
:ROFLOL:

I learned it all from Don. :2vrolijk_21:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: spydglide on August 29, 2010, 12:44:27 PM
:ROFLOL:

I learned it all from Don. :2vrolijk_21:

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:vrolijk_11:  spyder
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 29, 2010, 01:08:12 PM
:ROFLOL:

I learned it all from Don. :2vrolijk_21:

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May the fleas of a thousand moderators infest your camel!
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 29, 2010, 01:13:45 PM
May the fleas of a thousand moderators infest your camel!
Hehehehehehe. :2vrolijk_21:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 29, 2010, 01:14:40 PM
Heh... but you know it's true..... Look at the EBCM #'s you are senior to me. :P ::) ;D

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 29, 2010, 01:52:10 PM
Heh... but you know it's true..... Look at the EBCM #'s you are senior to me. :P ::) ;D

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In my case though it's just an honorary title...... ::)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: sadunbar on August 29, 2010, 01:57:30 PM


In my case though it's just an honorary title...... ::)

I see a "chithead" in your immediate future..... :)
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 29, 2010, 02:01:52 PM


In my case though it's just an honorary title...... ::)
I see a "chithead" in your immediate future..... :)
More like....

"I don't tell the truth and I'm a Chithead!!!" :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Twolanerider on August 29, 2010, 05:13:49 PM
More like....

"I don't tell the truth and I'm a Chithead!!!" :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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Chithead Jr.   :2vrolijk_29:
Title: Re: 2011
Post by: Fired00d on August 29, 2010, 05:28:09 PM

Chithead Jr.   :2vrolijk_29:
Hehehehehehe....

/me is an  :angel: :ons_1: :wings: :engel017: :ons_4:

:oops: How did that last one get in there. :huepfenlol2: :huepfenlol2:

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